losmanera Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Fins: Cecil Collins Ricky Williams Jim Drunkenmiller Randy McMichael Lawrence Philips Jimmy Johnson- didnt do anything himself, just said he would draft Hitler if he could play Bills: OJ Travis Henry Matt Stevens Who has the worst history of team losers. OJ is a BIG hit for sure.
Frez Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Fins: Cecil Collins Ricky Williams Jim Drunkenmiller Randy McMichael Lawrence Philips Jimmy Johnson- didnt do anything himself, just said he would draft Hitler if he could play Bills: OJ Travis Henry Matt Stevens Who has the worst history of team losers. OJ is a BIG hit for sure. 391149[/snapback] What's wrong with Matt Stevens? He tested positive for roids?
Fezmid Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 OJ doesn't count because it happened more than a decade after he played here. Henry wasn't found guilty either, because the girl was pretending to be of age. Stevens tested positive for steroids, lot of good it did him. The Dolphins win in a landslide. CW
Puhonix Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Fins: Jim Drunkenmiller Jimmy Johnson- didnt do anything himself, just said he would draft Hitler if he could play 391149[/snapback] I object to Druckenmiller being listed, after all he never played a game in a Fins uni. And Jimmy Johnson? C'mon, the man is a great coach, just didnt as well in Miami. So he had some moments, but I dont remember that quote, nor can I find anything on it. And to be objective, TH was a whiner towards the end of his career in Buffalo, but while he was playing, he was good for you. Sure, he's bad with money, but who isnt?
ganesh Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 I object to Druckenmiller being listed, after all he never played a game in a Fins uni. And Jimmy Johnson? C'mon, the man is a great coach, just didnt as well in Miami. So he had some moments, but I dont remember that quote, nor can I find anything on it. And to be objective, TH was a whiner towards the end of his career in Buffalo, but while he was playing, he was good for you. Sure, he's bad with money, but who isnt? 391177[/snapback] I can never forgive JJ for stomping on the Flutie Cereal boxes after you guys beat us in the playoffs....You don't exorcise your ghosts by stomping on something that is going to charity and disrespect to a player....
Kelly the Dog Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 How about Jim Dunaway? Played for the Bills and the Dolphins. Lost a civil suit for wrongful death after apparently murdering his ex-wife. Can't we all get along?
stuckincincy Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Here ya go, folks...the Sports Hall of Shame. http://www.allnerdsandgeeks.com/index.HallOfShame.html
envirojeff Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 The other day I tried to make a bet with two HUGE Fin fans that I work with that JP would throw more TD and less INT's than both Fin QB's combined. They would'nt go for it. What a mess that team is going to be! Can they come in 5th in our division? Jeff
OnTheRocks Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 i think OJ trumps them all. i hate the Dolphins but the Juice is a cold blooded killer. on the brite side...he does now live in Florida....so maybe we can slide him over to the Dolphins side of the scale.
OnTheRocks Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 i think OJ trumps them all. 391359[/snapback] Not to mention he is a thief! OJ the Pirate
Alaska Darin Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 C'mon, the man is a great coach, just didnt as well in Miami. I have to laugh at that. I've often wondered how he'd have done had Minnesota not given up FIVE players and TWELVE draft choices for Herchel Walker, giving Jimmuh a ton of "get out of jail free" cards to use on guys like Steve Walsh (when he already had Troy Aikman). Barry Switzer won a title with Jimmuh's team. He a great coach too?
Buftex Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 I have to laugh at that. I've often wondered how he'd have done had Minnesota not given up FIVE players and TWELVE draft choices for Herchel Walker, giving Jimmuh a ton of "get out of jail free" cards to use on guys like Steve Walsh (when he already had Troy Aikman). Barry Switzer won a title with Jimmuh's team. He a great coach too? 391404[/snapback] You nailed it! I think JJ is truly the most overrated coach in recent NFL history...as popular as it has become to bag on Parcells, I would take Parcells any day of the week.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 I thnk they both are way overrated. What has parsells done when he didn't have Bill Belichick on his sideline? Not all that much it seems. JJ is good at evaluating talent. I'll give him that, but wouldn't call him a great coach.. You nailed it! I think JJ is truly the most overrated coach in recent NFL history...as popular as it has become to bag on Parcells, I would take Parcells any day of the week. 391423[/snapback]
elcrusho Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 Nov. 1994: Buffalo Bills (football) running back Carwell Gardner is charged with assault after hitting his fiancee during a fight. -------- guess she talked back or something
smokinandjokin Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 How could we forget the Biscuit, Mr. Cornelius Bennett himself, sodomizing that woman? I'm not sure he was a Bill at the time, but I know his court dates were in Buffalo, because I remember one of the radio stations outside the courthouse roasting foot-long weiners. Apparently there was some testimony on the size of Biscuit's biscuit which was flattering for CB, but not so much for the girl's backside. I don't recall the outcome of the case.
ChevyVanMiller Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 You didn't even mention the WORST Bill ever, hands down - Reggie Rogers. Reggie Rogers I believe Marv once said that signing Reggie was his worst HR move ever.
Buftex Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 I thnk they both are way overrated. What has parsells done when he didn't have Bill Belichick on his sideline? Not all that much it seems. JJ is good at evaluating talent. I'll give him that, but wouldn't call him a great coach.. 391441[/snapback] Dallas is still a work in progress under Parcells. Parcells turned such moribund franchises as the NY Jets and New England Patriots into solid teams. He led a weak New England team to the Super Bowl, beat a superior Bills team in SB 25...and led a Cowboys team, that was widely regarded as one of the 2 or 3 worst teams in the leauge when he took over, to a winning record. You can't give all the credit to Belechek. I look at it, in NBA terms, as the argument as to who is the best current coach Phil Jackson or Larry Brown. Jackson wins when he has 2 of the very best players in the leauge on his roster (Jordan/Pippen, O'Neil/Bryant), while Larry Brown seems to be able to go anywhere, and build a winner. I'd take Brown over Jackson, and I'd take Parcells over JJ. Both have their merits as talent evaluaters, but don't forget all of the busts that JJ had in Miami. Each coach had/has a different approach to building a team. Parcells way seems to work pretty consistantly. JJ was very fortunate in robbing the Vikings, a trade that set his Dallas team up for almost a decade....that O-line was as good as it gets...
ganesh Posted July 27, 2005 Posted July 27, 2005 JJ also had excellent assistants in Dallas (Norv Turner and Wannested) whereas he couldn't get the same results at Miami. Plus, I remember once seeing a article where JJ was quoted as saying that the biggest mistake he made in Miami was not shipping Marino off from the team and build the running game rather than letting Marino win the games for him.
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