philburger1 Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 I guess the "insurgents" have more on their agenda than getting the U.S. to leave Iraq: "At least 26 Iraqis, almost all of them children, have been killed by a suicide car bombing in south-eastern Baghdad. A US soldier is also said to have died in the blast. Another three US soldiers are reported to have been injured. A car drove up to a US army vehicle and blew up as troops gave sweets to the children, a witness said. Hundreds of Iraqis have died in attacks by militants opposed to the US presence and a Shia-led government that took charge in Baghdad earlier this year. "Many Iraqi civilians, mostly children, were around the Humvee at the time of the blast," US military spokesman Sgt David Abrams told the Reuters news agency. "Suddenly a suicide car bomber drove round from a side street and blew himself up," he said."
TheMadCap Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 I assume from your title that MM actually refered to the insurgents as minute men?
Wacka Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 I Googled Michael Moore minute men and got this : In his own words "...The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?..." This is directly from michaelmoore.com.
PTS Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 I Googled Michael Moore minute men and got this :In his own words "...The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?..." This is directly from michaelmoore.com. 380987[/snapback] Michael Moore = France
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 I wonder if young kids died during the upheaval we call the American Revoultion? Think the Tory/loyalist families still in the colonies were met with peace? Judging from human nature, I bet they were terrorized. Not saying it is right... Just saying this sh*t has been going on forever. To only think that this stuff is new is quite naive?
Kelly the Dog Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 While I despise Michael Moore, and what he said was collosally stupid, ill-advised, and ignorant, what he said and was talking about were the Iraqi citizens, not the terrorists and al qaeda guys and foreign fighters in Iraq. These blasts look like the terrorists, although one cannot tell.
SilverNRed Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 I assume from your title that MM actually refered to the insurgents as minute men? 380960[/snapback] Yep. Right there on his website. Right before he was given a seat of honor at the Democratic National Convention next to Jimmuh Cartuh. The only thing worse than MM is people who embrace him.
Reuben Gant Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 The only thing worse than MM is people who embrace him. 381008[/snapback] Them hafta be some pretty wide arms.
SilverNRed Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 Them hafta be some pretty wide arms. 381009[/snapback] Forget getting your arms around him, I'd be more concerned about the smell. And the chunks of food in his beard.
Terry Tate Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 While I despise Michael Moore, and what he said was collosally stupid, ill-advised, and ignorant, what he said and was talking about were the Iraqi citizens, not the terrorists and al qaeda guys and foreign fighters in Iraq. These blasts look like the terrorists, although one cannot tell. Thank you. It's so important to understand the nuances by parsing his ignorant rantings to explain he didn't mean the terrorists were minutemen, he didn't mean the AQ were minutemen, he didn't mean the foreigners fighting US troops in Iraq were minutemen, no no - he meant the Iraqis who are fighting US troops who are not bombing mosques and killing civilians are the modern day equivalent of revolutionary war minutemen, throwing off the yoke of an imperialist government. It's all so much clearer now. Good point, keep up the good work.
TheMadCap Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 Yep. Right there on his website. Right before he was given a seat of honor at the Democratic National Convention next to Jimmuh Cartuh. The only thing worse than MM is people who embrace him. 381008[/snapback] Wow! I knew the guy was rabid anti-Bush, but that is a little too much...
Kelly the Dog Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 Thank you. It's so important to understand the nuances by parsing his ignorant rantings to explain he didn't mean the terrorists were minutemen, he didn't mean the AQ were minutemen, he didn't mean the foreigners fighting US troops in Iraq were minutemen, no no - he meant the Iraqis who are fighting US troops who are not bombing mosques and killing civilians are the modern day equivalent of revolutionary war minutemen, throwing off the yoke of an imperialist government. It's all so much clearer now. Good point, keep up the good work. 381046[/snapback] Actually, it is important. It's important because the idiots on the other side of the aisle, almost as big of idiots as MM himself I might add, will use his criminally stupid comments to say things like "liberals think terrorists are minutemen" - when as far as I can tell, exactly NONE of them think that or have said that, and as far as I can tell, only ONE of them think the Iraqi nationals blowing up people are minutemen. So, yes, it is very important to make the distinction of what one assshole said, when you asssholes misquote him, and apply what he said to 100 million people who don't believe they are minutemen as much as you don't believe they are minutemen.
SilverNRed Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 Actually, it is important. It's important because the idiots on the other side of the aisle, almost as big of idiots as MM himself I might add, will use his criminally stupid comments to say things like "liberals think terrorists are minutemen" - when as far as I can tell, exactly NONE of them think that or have said that, and as far as I can tell, only ONE of them think the Iraqi nationals blowing up people are minutemen. So, yes, it is very important to make the distinction of what one assshole said, when you asssholes misquote him, and apply what he said to 100 million people who don't believe they are minutemen as much as you don't believe they are minutemen. 381059[/snapback] Trying to clarify what MM "meant to say" is different from saying that basically no one (except his retarded fans) on the left agrees with him. He said exactly what he meant. The guys we're fighting in Iraq, the same people killing kids and people standing in line for jobs, are his "Minute Men". Let him live with it.
Kelly the Dog Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 Trying to clarify what MM "meant to say" is different from saying that basically no one (except his retarded fans) on the left agrees with him. He said exactly what he meant. The guys we're fighting in Iraq, the same people killing kids and people standing in line for jobs, are his "Minute Men". Let him live with it. 381064[/snapback] He did say what he meant to say. His opponents, including you, are implying and saying something he clearly didnt say, and he didnt mean to say. He didnt say they they were his minutemen. He didnt say he likes them. He didnt say he wants them to win. He didnt say he thinks they are right, or on the right side. There is a huge difference between saying Iraqi nationals are killing people they think invaded their country because they are patriotic, and saying Al Qaeda and al Zarqawi and foreign terrorists paid to kill Americans are killing people because they are patriotic. There is a very big difference. One may be true, at least to some degree. The other is without question not true.
Alaska Darin Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 He didnt say they they were his minutemen. He didnt say he likes them. He didnt say he wants them to win. He didnt say he thinks they are right, or on the right side. 381076[/snapback] Holy horrible semantic argument, Batman.
SilverNRed Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 He did say what he meant to say. His opponents, including you, are implying and saying something he clearly didnt say, and he didnt mean to say. He didnt say they they were his minutemen. He didnt say he likes them. He didnt say he wants them to win. He didnt say he thinks they are right, or on the right side. There is a huge difference between saying Iraqi nationals are killing people they think invaded their country because they are patriotic, and saying Al Qaeda and al Zarqawi and foreign terrorists paid to kill Americans are killing people because they are patriotic. There is a very big difference. One may be true, at least to some degree. The other is without question not true. 381076[/snapback] I could care less what he didn't say - worry about what he did say. Iraqis who "rise up" against the "occupation." I'd say many of the most murderous people in Iraq right now were there before the war started. If he wants to compare them to the men who fought to give the U.S. it's independence, that's his problem. I'm glad it's right there on his website for all the world to see.
SilverNRed Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 Holy horrible semantic argument, Batman. 381084[/snapback] Yeah, but he didn't say he liked them. Like that means anything when he's comparing them to the founding fathers.
Reuben Gant Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 lemme see, take a quote from last year, wait until the insurgency tactics change to attack civilians, apply them to today, and get mad at Michael Moore for what he said last year in reference to what happened today. Can I play too?
Kelly the Dog Posted July 13, 2005 Posted July 13, 2005 Holy horrible semantic argument, Batman. 381084[/snapback] No, you're dead wrong on this one. There is an enormous difference between the two concepts. In fact, they are almost on completely opposite sides of the spectrum. Far, far closer to that, at least, than they are to being on the same side.
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