1billsfan Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 is weak? Alicia Keys, Stevie Wonder, Destiny's Child, Jay-Z, P. Diddy, Bon Jovi, Dave Matthews Band & Black-Eyed Peas Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz They couldn't do better than that? Yet another sign how music has gone down the tubes the last 20 years. I do hope they make a lot of money for the worthy cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Don't get monkeys started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotta Dream Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 yeah, they are saying that there have been no change in tourism $$ and hotel sales when comparing this years to last. that's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Who's playing at the other venues ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted July 1, 2005 Author Share Posted July 1, 2005 Who's playing at the other venues ? 372547[/snapback] http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/324284p-276979c.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/324284p-276979c.html 372548[/snapback] Thank You. Berlin made out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 is weak? Alicia Keys, Stevie Wonder, Destiny's Child, Jay-Z, P. Diddy, Bon Jovi, Dave Matthews Band & Black-Eyed Peas Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz They couldn't do better than that? Yet another sign how music has gone down the tubes the last 20 years. I do hope they make a lot of money for the worthy cause. 372543[/snapback] HA! Look at the Moscow Lineup: The PET SHOP BOYS. Pfft... It's all nonsense anyway. All the money they raise will go directly into the pockets of the tinhorn dictators that run the countries involved. Like other crusades, however, it'll feel good for the outre celebrities involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 The London gig is HUGE... the acts (and more besides): African Children's Choir Annie Lennox Bob Geldof Coldplay Dido Elton John Joss Stone Keane Killers, The Madonna Mariah Carey Ms. Dynamite Paul McCartney Pink Floyd Razorlight REM Robbie Williams Scissor Sisters Snoop Dogg Snow Patrol Stereophonics Sting Travis U2 UB40 Velvet Revolver Although personally I'd like to have seen Rob Thomas in the UK Full listing of all concerts: http://www.live8live.com/theconcerts/ Is anyone else concerned though about the way all of this is going? It's worrying that we are headed towards a point where you are politically exiled unless you agree with Bob Geldof... It's a decent cause, but the way Geldof does it raises serious concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Is anyone else concerned though about the way all of this is going? It's worrying that we are headed towards a point where you are politically exiled unless you agree with Bob Geldof... It's a decent cause, but the way Geldof does it raises serious concerns. 372555[/snapback] I like how it's billed as being for "Justice". If the people of Africa really wanted justice, they'd overthrow the arseholes that run the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I like how it's billed as being for "Justice". If the people of Africa really wanted justice, they'd overthrow the arseholes that run the place. 372560[/snapback] Yeah - there is that... It would be better if it was kept simple - focusing on the issue of lobbying to make 3rd world debt shrink and improving the lives of many africans who live in poverty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I like how it's billed as being for "Justice". If the people of Africa really wanted justice, they'd overthrow the arseholes that run the place. 372560[/snapback] Way to show your ignorance. So they are just supposed to lift themselves out of blinding poverty starvation and disease, organize themselves (when there is poor mass communication and ethnic conflict) and take on people with machine guns, helicopters, and tanks. Oh yeah, I forgot, its their fault - not the cultural, political, and geological ruins left from centuries of colonialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 I like how it's billed as being for "Justice". If the people of Africa really wanted justice, they'd overthrow the arseholes that run the place. 372560[/snapback] Trying to get this one moved to PPP Joe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 So they are just supposed to lift themselves out of blinding poverty starvation and disease, organize themselves (when there is poor mass communication and ethnic conflict) and take on people with machine guns, helicopters, and tanks. Oh yeah, I forgot, its their fault - not the cultural, political, and geological ruins left from centuries of colonialism. 372564[/snapback] That's right. We've been sending aid to Africa for years and it just gets swallowed up in a bottomless pit. Ever hear the old saying: "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day, Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime?" Well, this is just giving a man a fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slothrop Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Well, this is just giving a man a fish. 372576[/snapback] While ignoring the fact that the fish is decomposed and diseased. P.S. We should start a campaign to see if we can get all the TSW topics thrown into hell, better known as PPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 That's right. We've been sending aid to Africa for years and it just gets swallowed up in a bottomless pit. Ever hear the old saying: "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day, Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime?" Well, this is just giving a man a fish. 372576[/snapback] Except for when the aid finally gets there it's been divvied up by contractors and friends so many times that it's a fraction of what it's purported to be for the people on the receiving end. I agree with you on the latter point, the best thing we can do is help people to help themselves. But who's to say that aid can't be used that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 That's right. We've been sending aid to Africa for years and it just gets swallowed up in a bottomless pit. Ever hear the old saying: "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day, Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime?" Well, this is just giving a man a fish. 372576[/snapback] OK I agree with your first point about Justice. It is NOT about justice. But lets not die in a ditch about semantics... The MAKE POVERTY HISTORY campaign is trying to do exactly what you drive at in your latter point. Sustainable relief from poverty as a result of cultural, political, and geological ruins left from centuries of colonialism. No one is saying the cause is wrong, I just object to the way that Geldof sets himself up as the moral authority on Africa and if you disagree with what he say's then you're as bad as those damn dictators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 OK I agree with your first point about Justice. It is NOT about justice. But lets not die in a ditch about semantics... The MAKE POVERTY HISTORY campaign is trying to do exactly what you drive at in your latter point. Sustainable relief from poverty as a result of cultural, political, and geological ruins left from centuries of colonialism. No one is saying the cause is wrong, I just object to the way that Geldof sets himself up as the moral authority on Africa and if you disagree with what he say's then you're as bad as those damn dictators. 372598[/snapback] Exactly. I think the aid should be in the form of PHYSICAL rather than monetary help. Want American aid? Then you have to be willing to accept american advisors who will be in charge of ensuring the money is used the way it was meant to be. I, as an Amrican taxpayer, am sick of theoring my money into an unregulated, unsuprvised money pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Want American aid? Then you have to be willing to accept american advisors who will be in charge of ensuring the money is used the way it was meant to be. I, as an Amrican taxpayer, am sick of theoring my money into an unregulated, unsuprvised money pit. 372601[/snapback] That is one of the same arguments being made over aid to North Korea. There is no oversight (other than DPRK oversight) of where the aid is going. The WFP is trying to make things better, but they still do not have complete control over the distribution of the aid. You try to help the humanitarian crisis and all you are doing is making their military stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Live 8; Make African leaders RICHER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted July 1, 2005 Share Posted July 1, 2005 Maybe they can pull some of those crates and crates of tsunami relief from the U.N. that are still sitting on the docks, and ship it down there instead. Then the 1,000,000 bands I'm not interested in can stay home, and the one that I am (Floyd reunited) can go in a studio and try to write an album that doesn't suck like everything else they've done since their acrimonious split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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