blacklabel Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: @gonzo1105 @GunnerBill Just noticed Beane talks about tipping picks at 5:10 in the posted vid Yeah, he basically explained the process that ends up leading to picks being tipped. He said there are times when a team has their selection turned in pretty quickly and it can be 8-9 minutes before it's announced on TV. Quote
Luka Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I keep hearing we needed to draft a wide receiver but I've yet to hear a single name that we missed out on or passed on that would even move the needle in this offense. That's how you know it wasn't a deep class at wide receiver, no real big names. 3 Quote
Mango Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I accidentally killed the previous post trying to delete 1 post. Great interview I was so confused checking my notifications. Quote
GunnerBill Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Luka said: I keep hearing we needed to draft a wide receiver but I've yet to hear a single name that we missed out on or passed on that would even move the needle in this offense. That's how you know it wasn't a deep class at wide receiver, no real big names. Move the needle immediately, for the Bills it was just Golden really and he went right at the point I'd have started to consider it value to go up for him. I think that slightly misses the point though. Beane and some people siding with him want to make out that those talking about receiver were desperate for one early. That is by and large not true. It is certainly not true of me - in the Landon Jackson thread I was very clear and receiver at any of those spots days 1 and 2 over the guys we took was a reach. But by Beane's own admission when you get into day, and especially rounds 5 on you start attacking needs on the roster rather than simply saying BPA. He talked about that AT LENGTH in his pre draft presser. And when it came to those needs he valued a TE3, competition for Cam Lewis, another outside corner (although he did say Strong was BPA and that is believable he was 6th best on my board at that stage) and a developmental tackle over a developmental receiver. It's that bit that some of us are questioning and it is playing in a narrative that definitely exists over 8 years of drafts that relative to the league Brandon doesn't prioritise the position. 2 1 1 Quote
Simon Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I accidentally killed the previous post trying to delete 1 post. Great interview I can probably restore it and merge this one into it if you like? 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Simon said: I can probably restore it and merge this one into it if you like? Thank you! Yes Quote
muppy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) I must admit I don't watch much TV sports talk. the occasional NFL-N with their crew. I say that because Pat McAfee strikes me as a guy who would love TBD based on football chat acumen alone. He's cool. I wonder if any national sports media read here. Im nosey like that lol inquiring minds want to know! either way I liked this clip very much. Beanes was loose and fast with his verbage. He is BALLER in my book thanks for posting Edited 4 hours ago by muppy 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Maybe Mahomes always outperforms Josh because he's playing against the weaker defense in the game. The same defense the Eagles scored 40 on. I kid. I realize that but I have a hard time declaring Allen as the best QB in the game until he finishes that drive down 3 in the 4th quarter that will pry inevitably happen again. If you ever look at their head to head stats in the playoffs they're both astoundingly good in those four games. 1 Quote
klos63 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, corta765 said: Which I agree with. The point which WGR made and also is 100% right is there was a good 2-3 year stretch where some truly good talented WRs came in and were available... and the Bills only made a move when their backs were against the wall (Keon) when they could've been aggressive to double down in the draft with another guy OR been aggressive for someone like Brian Thomas who they absolutely could've went and got. I understand not moving picks for DK even if he was a dream fit. But this offense with Brian Thomas or Ladd etc.. feels much different then it does with Keon. But that's not the offense of Joe Brady , or McDermott. We've become a more ball control, low risk offense. The results were an MVP for Josh, lowest sack and interception totals of his career, and really great low numbers too. They don't want to air it out, risk sacks, interceptions... We have pretty good WR, but they do need Coleman to take a big step this season and Palmer to make some plays. Quote
ganesh Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, RobbRiddick said: I like Beane a lot and see his point but when he says "people were saying this last offseason" he fails to remember he went out and panic traded for Cooper when he realised the WR room needed help And that did help them to the AFCC. Coopers presence helped the others get open especially the three RBs 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: But that's not the offense of Joe Brady , or McDermott. We've become a more ball control, low risk offense. The results were an MVP for Josh, lowest sack and interception totals of his career, and really great low numbers too. They don't want to air it out, risk sacks, interceptions... We have pretty good WR, but they do need Coleman to take a big step this season and Palmer to make some plays. And Kincaid and Coleman were injured midway in the season and never recovered fully 1 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I made it about halfway, because its mostly been covered here quite well already Always fun to watch him talk and process. Pat , for me is all over with in jokes and nuance. Beane kept up just fine But he looks fat. He needs to tighten that sht up. Mind and Body , right ? 1 Quote
Redblood Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 41 minutes ago, Redblood said: I can tell he is feeling the pressure. As always Quote
3rdand12 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 11 minutes ago, klos63 said: But that's not the offense of Joe Brady , or McDermott. We've become a more ball control, low risk offense. The results were an MVP for Josh, lowest sack and interception totals of his career, and really great low numbers too. They don't want to air it out, risk sacks, interceptions... We have pretty good WR, but they do need Coleman to take a big step this season and Palmer to make some plays. Life would be easier for the whole offense if they forced teams to cover deep threats or run patterns that threatened to get a one on one regardless of yards downfield. There is no doubt about that. Quote
harmonkillebrew Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 hours ago, Billsguy said: Here are some facts from the NFL that "big balls Beane" forgot to quote. The Beane led Bills have neither been to the Super Bowl nor won the Super Bowl. Last year the Bills as a team scored 30 receiving touchdowns combined from all players. The team leader in WR TD's was journeyman Mack Hollins with 5 TD's. Bravo Beane, you have built a mediocre WR corps. What is this guy bragging about? In 2017 the Bills traded the #10 pick to KC who drafted Mahomes. He and the Chiefs have won 3 Super Bowls and been in 5 of the last 6 SB's. You don't hear the KC GM bragging like a tough guy like the foolish Beane. Maybe Beane the bully wants to distract people from the fact that he hasn't won anything! seriously. Beane be acting like he just won the SB. He ain't even been! Needs to shut down the attitude and listen a little more. Without Allen's heroics he'd be trash 1 3 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 56 minutes ago, Redblood said: I can tell he is feeling the pressure. Yeah, sweatin' bullets. Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Valid point. But adding to the talent pool on that side seems to be a good idea, no? It seems like a good idea, until you realize it hasn’t worked for 7 straight years. Quote
klos63 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: Life would be easier for the whole offense if they forced teams to cover deep threats or run patterns that threatened to get a one on one regardless of yards downfield. There is no doubt about that. Maybe, but they were really good last season without that. I'd love a great deep threat, but, at least for this offseason, it's not the priority. Defense is. Quote
QB Bills Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Guy won the lottery with Allen. He gets credit for that. But even he could not have foreseen how good Josh was going to be. And Allen actually is not being paid what he's worth so this nonsense about "paying a qb so you can't pay others" is ridiculous. Every other good team does it. And Allen is better than all of them. Beane embarrassed himself on wgr. Quote
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