Big Badazz Beane on Pat McAfee today

[Chandler#81]

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Chandler#81

[Goin Breakdown]

Continuing his Beotch slap tour. 

[Starr Almighty]

I haven't watched yet but it would be funny if he came in hot again 😂

[Einstein]

10 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Continuing his Beotch slap tour. 

 

“I dare you to say some sheot McAfee” - Beane, in his head

[Mango]

I do like that he directly said "when you pay Josh what you are paying for it you have to take it away from somewhere else". 

I am a huge proponent of the fact that once you pay the QB that player has to do more with less. They have to make up for the pay gap in some of their talent. Josh did a very good job of that last year. I expect him to continue to do very good as we move forward. 

 

To Beane's point on WGR, defense has cost us games. We have an excellent RB stable and OL. 

The Bengals model is bad. 

 

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, Mango said:

I do like that he directly said "when you pay Josh what you are paying for it you have to take it away from somewhere else". 

 

Beane is one of the most honest GM’s I have ever seen. 

 

I don’t think it even occurs to him to lie or “coach speak”.

[Goin Breakdown]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 

Beane is one of the most honest GM’s I have ever seen. 

 

I don’t think it even occurs to him to lie or “coach speak”.

It's true. He is enjoyable to listen to. 

[UKBillFan]

2 minutes ago, Mango said:

I do like that he directly said "when you pay Josh what you are paying for it you have to take it away from somewhere else". 

I am a huge proponent of the fact that once you pay the QB that player has to do more with less. They have to make up for the pay gap in some of their talent. Josh did a very good job of that last year. I expect him to continue to do very good as we move forward. 

 

To Beane's point on WGR, defense has cost us games. We have an excellent RB stable and OL. 

The Bengals model is bad. 

 

I think that’s a weak argument. Drafting a WR doesn’t impact the budget any more than drafting another position. No one expected a WR in the first round. I believe most people are happy with the picks across the first two days. The questions are being asked about day three. No one is asking Beane to trade next three first round picks for Chase or anything like that. Just something different in the room. And perhaps it is still to come.

[Mikie2times]

The thud you hear at the start is his sack hitting the table. Its how he enters a room now. 

[eball]

Watched the whole thing, and I feel even better about how he addressed the WGR morons yesterday.

 

Great GM.

 

[corta765]

24 minutes ago, Mango said:

I do like that he directly said "when you pay Josh what you are paying for it you have to take it away from somewhere else". 

I am a huge proponent of the fact that once you pay the QB that player has to do more with less. They have to make up for the pay gap in some of their talent. Josh did a very good job of that last year. I expect him to continue to do very good as we move forward. 

 

To Beane's point on WGR, defense has cost us games. We have an excellent RB stable and OL. 

The Bengals model is bad. 

 

 

Which I agree with.

 

The point which WGR made and also is 100% right is there was a good 2-3 year stretch where some truly good talented WRs came in and were available... and the Bills only made a move when their backs were against the wall (Keon) when they could've been aggressive to double down in the draft with another guy OR been aggressive for someone like Brian Thomas who they absolutely could've went and got.

 

I understand not moving picks for DK even if he was a dream fit. But this offense with Brian Thomas or Ladd etc.. feels much different then it does with Keon.

[JGMcD2]

9 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

I think that’s a weak argument. Drafting a WR doesn’t impact the budget any more than drafting another position. No one expected a WR in the first round. I believe most people are happy with the picks across the first two days. The questions are being asked about day three. No one is asking Beane to trade next three first round picks for Chase or anything like that. Just something different in the room. And perhaps it is still to come.

In that clip, Beane pulls back the curtain on their roster strategy. He felt it was a weak wide receiver class, and when they were on the clock, none of the options meaningfully upgraded their top four. So why spend draft capital on someone who might only be your fifth receiver when you're typically running 12 personnel or 6 OL? It’s a candid look at how they approached the board to fit their offense. 

[TBBills Fan]

3 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

In that clip, Beane pulls back the curtain on their roster strategy. He felt it was a weak wide receiver class, and when they were on the clock, none of the options meaningfully upgraded their top four. So why spend draft capital on someone who might only be your fifth receiver when you're typically running 12 personnel or 6 OL? It’s a candid look at how they approached the board to fit their offense. 

Bingo

[nedboy7]

3 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

In that clip, Beane pulls back the curtain on their roster strategy. He felt it was a weak wide receiver class, and when they were on the clock, none of the options meaningfully upgraded their top four. So why spend draft capital on someone who might only be your fifth receiver when you're typically running 12 personnel or 6 OL? It’s a candid look at how they approached the board to fit their offense. 

That’s exactly what I’m getting. The value on those picks was too good to draft a WR they weren’t sold on.  I understand why the later round CBs. Too good of a value to miss out on. 

[RobbRiddick]

I like Beane a lot and see his point but when he says "people were saying this last offseason" he fails to remember he went out and panic traded for Cooper when he realised the WR room needed help

[Goin Breakdown]

28 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

I think that’s a weak argument. Drafting a WR doesn’t impact the budget any more than drafting another position. No one expected a WR in the first round. I believe most people are happy with the picks across the first two days. The questions are being asked about day three. No one is asking Beane to trade next three first round picks for Chase or anything like that. Just something different in the room. And perhaps it is still to come.

I really feel like he is basing everything off of listening for 3 mins. He even brings up that "the guys forgot about Josh Palmer". They didn't forget about Josh Palmer. Beane insinuated that they did in his rant. I really like Beane but he is being a little big childish about this (as are the wgr guys a bit)

[JerseyBills]

Big Bully Beane, man he's a great listen , elite GM

[NeverOutNick]

38 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Beane is one of the most honest GM’s I have ever seen. 

 

I don’t think it even occurs to him to lie or “coach speak”.

He’s one of the best liars I’ve seen. I’ll give him that he’s a masterful poker playing manipulator and I’m glad he’s our GM but man I wish he focused on drafting wide receivers more for Josh.

[JGMcD2]

1 minute ago, corta765 said:

Which I agree with.

 

The point which WGR made and also is 100% right is there was a good 2-3 year stretch where some truly good talented WRs came in and were available... and the Bills only made a move when their backs were against the wall (Keon) when they could've been aggressive to double down in the draft with another guy OR been aggressive for someone like Brian Thomas who they absolutely could've went and got.

They didn’t, and look what happened - they averaged 30.9 PPG, and their QB won MVP.
 

As for moving up to get Brian Thomas Jr., it wasn’t as simple as it might seem. The only trade between picks 12 and 23 was the Vikings trading up from 23 to 17 with the Jaguars. If the Bills wanted to get to 17 from 28, they would’ve needed to give up a lot of draft capital. Pick 28 was worth 660 points, while pick 17 was worth 950, meaning the Bills would’ve needed to add at least 290 points. To put that into perspective, that’s like offering a second-round pick and a late-round pick, or a third-rounder and a future second-round pick.
 

And this is exactly what Jacksonville did. They moved back just 6 spots, from 17 to 23, and still picked up a mid-third-rounder instead of a late second. For a trade to happen, both sides need to see value in it, and there’s no guarantee Jacksonville would’ve been willing to make that much of a move down the board.

[C.Biscuit97]

50 minutes ago, Mango said:

I do like that he directly said "when you pay Josh what you are paying for it you have to take it away from somewhere else". 

I am a huge proponent of the fact that once you pay the QB that player has to do more with less. They have to make up for the pay gap in some of their talent. Josh did a very good job of that last year. I expect him to continue to do very good as we move forward. 

 

To Beane's point on WGR, defense has cost us games. We have an excellent RB stable and OL. 

The Bengals model is bad. 

 

I don’t fully disagree. Once Allen got his money, it restricts what we can do salary cap wise. We can’t just grab a big money free agent as easy. It was a much easier job for Beane before Allen got paid. But this is where he earns his salary. 
 

the draft is the best way to find a future star cheaply. I have some doubts on Coleman but maybe it’s him. But Kincaid hasn’t been it. Elam was an all time bust. Our D linemen have been kinda meh. Samuel and Miller were a terrible signing. 
 

beane and company drafting/ developing Allen gives them a ton of leeway. However, the goal has changed. Good enough isn’t good enough anymore. You need to nail high draft picks and FA signings. 
 

and all the take about the defense blowing games ignored the offense having multiple chances to tie or win that game. Maybe Beane is feeling the pressure now. 
 

also, I never got the McAfee love. He’s just a punter hopes up on caffeine. But good for him.

 

also, the Bengals have made a SB 

Edited 11 hours ago by C.Biscuit97