Elijah Moore Visiting the Bills today

[Saint Doug]

Why is this guy still a free agent? Did he recently get cut loose? This guy’s stats aren’t that different from Josh Palmer’s, who played with a better QB. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Saint Doug

[NeverOutNick]

4 hours ago, bills742 said:

 

 

Hopefully this happens. He or cooper are really the only options in free agency to get a deep threat and yes cooper still brings something to this offense even if it was limited last year. 
 

outside of grabbing Moore, maybe we can make a trade for an overloaded WR corps like Jmo on the lions or one of GBs plethora of WRs 

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, Nephilim17 said:

Moore is under 5'10" and weighed 178 at the combine. He may have put on a few pounds of muscle since but I doubt he has the size to block at the level the team expects. Very curious.

 

He is wound pretty tightly physically. And this is not a knock on you at all, but many on this board were banging the table for Tez Johnson near the end of the draft, the soon to be 23 year old who goes 5-9, 154 lbs and his 4.51 forty. It's okay to be a bit smaller when you go 4.35 in speed.  

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 hour ago, muppy said:

anyone who thought that the trees wouldn't be shaken for WR help especially after the draft would be IMO misguided.

 

Of course WR's would be brought in. The oh woe is me our WR Corp is so weak meh I think people need to hold their water a little bit

 

what the Bills Do have and WILL have come the season opener is an unknown.  I think Beane and company will be thorough and shakes the trees HARD even.

 

🍿

Exactly.

 

To me, it's the same as buying a cool puzzle at the store, opening the box when you get home and seeing the puzzle is in pieces and screaming that it's garbage.

 

Sometimes you have to actually put the pieces together, see what the picture looks like over time and then decide. 

 

Right now, the roster is an incomplete puzzle. We will see the picture form over the next few months. Piece by piece it will snap together. Seems like almost every year around here the puzzle is broken and we are expecting to be short a few pieces. But over the course of TC and the actual season itself we see the puzzle more and more completed. And it usually has led to a really nice picture at the end of it all.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I just want an outside guy that will potentially push Palmer to the 4th or 5th WR. Then have Palmer rotate in every now and then.

 

Bills are in trouble if Palmer is one of the core 3.

 

He's not that good

 

I would like this signing 

Edited 7 hours ago by JakeFrommStateFarm

[Success]

Watching highlights - he's good after contact.  Breaks tackles & fights for extra yards.

 

I agree that he's not a huge needle-mover, but we need one more guy and he'd at least be more of a deep threat than what we have.

 

[Big Blitz]

13 minutes ago, Saint Doug said:

Why is this guy still a free agent? Did he recently get cut loose? This guy’s stats aren’t that different from Josh Palmer’s, who played with a better QB. 

 

If I’m not mistaken, he wanted out from the Jets after they drafted Wilson in 2022 and wasn’t getting the ball - he was in year 2 in the league.  
 

He had a great rookie year, was traded in 2023 to the Browns.  Thought he flashed again this year until they traded for Jeudy.   

[SoonerBillsFan]

49 minutes ago, muppy said:

it may not be a splashy enough guy for fans who are upset no high round WR taken in the draft.

 

The proof will be in the pudding. What I mean by that is if at the end of the season it is determined the lack of WR talent held the team from a Lombardi I will acknowledge it.  But Now it premature. DUH  I mean camp hasn't even happened yet

 

I'm getting salty from the WR rhetoric myself SMH

I was pissed we didn't take a WR in the 4th,  but this kid would help.

[Mat68]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't disagree. Was a tough year to be in that market. The reason I'd have spent an early day 3 pick on one is in the hope you might at least get someone who can come in for a specific package of plays that threatens that and where he has to be accounted for in the hope it dictates to defenses. Cooper gave us that after his signing last year. Teams felt when he was out there that they at least needed to defend the vertical outside routes and it opened other things up. My concern remains the Baltimore week 4 gameplan. Do we have enough to counter it if teams just say "have the outside, you are not hurting us there"? 

They were never designing a package for the 5th wr on the roster if they made it.  

[Nephilim17]

8 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

He is wound pretty tightly physically. And this is not a knock on you at all, but many on this board were banging the table for Tez Johnson near the end of the draft, the soon to be 23 year old who goes 5-9, 154 lbs and his 4.51 forty. It's okay to be a bit smaller when you go 4.35 in speed.  

Good to know about his build. I personally would never want a 154 lb player unless he was the fastest and most elusive guy in the world. And even then...

[LyndonvilleBill]

4 minutes ago, Success said:

Watching highlights - he's good after contact.  Breaks tackles & fights for extra yards.

 

I agree that he's not a huge needle-mover, but we need one more guy and he'd at least be more of a deep threat than what we have.

 

Kinda a John Brown with Tattoos. 😉😁

[GunnerBill]

54 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I hear ya and I agree that if I were a DC, I’d focus on defending the middle of the field.  
 

I just think that 2025 Josh Palmer is a better outside WR than 2024 Amari Cooper.  I also think Keon will be a viable  option to make plays 1 on 1 on the outside.  Pure speculation on my part, but we’ve seen lesser WRs make plays on the outside with lesser QBs.  
 

the FO has more belief in our players making plays than much of the board and media.  Same situation as last season.  Turned out alright last year.  
 

I think the O will find a way. If this unit fails, I have faith that Beane will make a move in season.  He has a track record for attacking our weaknesses at the deadline.  Hopefully the investments on D will stay healthy and make big plays in the playoffs.  

 

And to be clear I am not hating on the draft. The most important part of the draft is the premium picks the first two days and I think Beane did as good a job with them as he has since 2018.

 

I am a bit more ciritical of his approach to the vet market in terms of FA and trades but I have no doubt the Bills will win the division and win a playoff game or two as long as Josh is healthy. My worry is that we will end up facing KC having the ball at the end, for a 3rd year in a row and not be able to get it done. And I am less persuaded that just upgrading the defense is the answer there. That isn't how the Bills - Chiefs games are. It won't matter whether we play a 32-29 game or a 20-17 game. The result will come down to the final 3 minutes and I think all of us would rather in that situation the ball be in Josh's hand than in Pat's. And then we gotta make the critical plays. Do we yet have the guys to do it?

[Process]

I can't recall seeing much of his play, but his stats are actually decent given the offenses he played in and roles that he had. Will add some speed to the offense, even if he isn't the prototypical outside vertical threat we are looking. 

 

Seems like he would be a solid addition and nice way to round out the WR group. 

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

They were never designing a package for the 5th wr on the roster if they made it.  

 

They had one for MVS as the WR5 early in 2024.

[Pete]

Proof that we need help at WR- hate away

[TheWei44]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And to be clear I am not hating on the draft. The most important part of the draft is the premium picks the first two days and I think Beane did as good a job with them as he has since 2018.

 

I am a bit more ciritical of his approach to the vet market in terms of FA and trades but I have no doubt the Bills will win the division and win a playoff game or two as long as Josh is healthy. My worry is that we will end up facing KC having the ball at the end, for a 3rd year in a row and not be able to get it done. And I am less persuaded that just upgrading the defense is the answer there. That isn't how the Bills - Chiefs games are. It won't matter whether we play a 32-29 game or a 20-17 game. The result will come down to the final 3 minutes and I think all of us would rather in that situation the ball be in Josh's hand than in Pat's. And then we gotta make the critical plays. Do we yet have the guys to do it?

I can totally understand this line of thinking and am sympathetic to it and concerned about it as well.  But my hope is that we've made enough incremental improvements on D (including a speedy CB) that it won't come down to needing to score ourselves at the end.  Many factors explain why we lost to KC - Sure there were offensive reasons but make no mistake, when Benford went out and Elam came in, that was a huge factor/issue.

Edited 6 hours ago by TheWei44

[Utah John]

It's looking like this is Beane's approach -- Josh is so good he can win with rentals and retreads at WR.  It's not ideal but with the salary cap and the Bills' ongoing struggles to draft/develop/coach/scheme D linemen, maybe this is the necessary way to go.  But no more 3rd rounders for aging guys.  Rentals should come cheaper.

[dgrochester55]

I like this as a low key signing. Moore showed flashes in his first year with the Jets and was productive a couple of years ago in Cleveland when Flacco was at QB. It would be interesting to see what he can do with an offense that doesn't have a dumpster fire situation at quarterback.

Edited 6 hours ago by dgrochester55

[Mat68]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

They had one for MVS as the WR5 early in 2024.

And the package became better when Coleman took it over.  MVS also had a long history of being a deep threat.  It also was while Samuel was out.  

[chris heff]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And to be clear I am not hating on the draft. The most important part of the draft is the premium picks the first two days and I think Beane did as good a job with them as he has since 2018.

 

I am a bit more ciritical of his approach to the vet market in terms of FA and trades but I have no doubt the Bills will win the division and win a playoff game or two as long as Josh is healthy. My worry is that we will end up facing KC having the ball at the end, for a 3rd year in a row and not be able to get it done. And I am less persuaded that just upgrading the defense is the answer there. That isn't how the Bills - Chiefs games are. It won't matter whether we play a 32-29 game or a 20-17 game. The result will come down to the final 3 minutes and I think all of us would rather in that situation the ball be in Josh's hand than in Pat's. And then we gotta make the critical plays. Do we yet have the guys to do it?

I don’t disagree, but didn’t the Eagles hand us the blueprint to beat the Chiefs? They made that offense and Mahomes look pretty average. Seems to me the plan for this draft and offseason was to get the bodies on defense to do just that. The Bills have not fared well in shootouts with the Chiefs.