Elijah Moore Visiting the Bills today

[MrEpsYtown]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I agree- we don’t have that guy.  
 

Other than DK, which WRs that were available this year could’ve been that guy?  I’d put Josh Palmer up there with the other guys acquired. He plays faster than his 40 and makes plays downfield.  

 

I think it was a tough year to need to bolster the X WR.  Not giving Beane a pass, I feel it was a mistake to wait til rd 7 to draft a WR, I just don’t think there was a guy that would’ve given us the bolded.  

 

I would even add, in last year's vaunted draft class, who really did that aside from Nabers and BTJ both of whom were out of reach? Those guys are hard to come by. Don't grow on trees. 

[C.Biscuit97]

48 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

In 2018, Ole Miss had as their receiving corps AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, Dawson Knox, Elijah Moore(!), and some guy named Demarkus Lodge who had 65 catches. Their QB had the highest passing-yards-per-game average in the nation too. Yet they managed to go 5-7. To be fair, their defense was atrocious (113th out of 130 teams in points allowed).

It’s why I hated the Knox pick because I don’t think he had a td in college. I also believe the qb is a USFL or whatever they call it starter now. 

[Doc Brown]

I'd prefer Moore over any of the WR's drafted after Golden went off the board.

[dave mcbride]

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

It’s why I hated the Knox pick because I don’t think he had a td in college. I also believe the qb is a USFL or whatever they call it starter now. 

Knox is a pretty good player, though, and he's lived up to his draft status. He's not all world but he's a credible longtime NFL starting-quality TE. So many late third round picks never do anything.

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I would even add, in last year's vaunted draft class, who really did that aside from Nabers and BTJ both of whom were out of reach? Those guys are hard to come by. Don't grow on trees. 

My boy Ladd McCockney

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I agree- we don’t have that guy.  
 

Other than DK, which WRs that were available this year could’ve been that guy?  I’d put Josh Palmer up there with the other guys acquired. He plays faster than his 40 and makes plays downfield.  

 

I think it was a tough year to need to bolster the X WR.  Not giving Beane a pass, I feel it was a mistake to wait til rd 7 to draft a WR, I just don’t think there was a guy that would’ve given us the bolded.  

 

I don't disagree. Was a tough year to be in that market. The reason I'd have spent an early day 3 pick on one is in the hope you might at least get someone who can come in for a specific package of plays that threatens that and where he has to be accounted for in the hope it dictates to defenses. Cooper gave us that after his signing last year. Teams felt when he was out there that they at least needed to defend the vertical outside routes and it opened other things up. My concern remains the Baltimore week 4 gameplan. Do we have enough to counter it if teams just say "have the outside, you are not hurting us there"? 

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

Knox is a pretty good player, though, and he's lived up to his draft status. He's not all world but he's a credible longtime NFL starting-quality TE. So many late third round picks never do anything.

He definitely exceed my expectations for his  first few years. 

[gonzo1105]

20 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Don't know about that. In the last four seasons, they've gone 10-3, 11-2, 8-5, and 10-3 in a brutal conference and have finished ranked 9th once and 11th twice. They also had the number 2 defense in all of college football this past season (in terms of points allowed). 5 of their 11 defensive starters were drafted this past weekend too: guys in the first, second, third, fifth, and sixth rounds. They also had a QB go in round one and a WR in round 2. Their 3 losses in 2024 were by the scores of 20-17, 29-26, and 24-17 (all one-score games). They also beat a stacked Georgia team, 28-10.

 

I don't view national championships or college playoff appearances as proper gauges of good seasons. There are too many teams for one, and secondly it's tough to get past OSU, Alabama, Texas, Georgia, Michigan, and to a lesser extent LSU and Oregon giving their recruiting prowess.  

They sold their souls last year in the transfer portal trying to make the playoff and failed at it. For the amount of money they put into that program sniping players from other programs they don’t win enough. 
 

Nolan, Amos, Dart amongst many others were not originally Miss players 

[C.Biscuit97]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

I'd prefer Moore over any of the WR's drafted after Golden went off the board.

Eh, there’s a chance there is a future star that got drafted. I could see the Iowa State guys Houston took becoming stars. I think Emeka from OSU will be a very good number 2. Or Royals, a guy the bills liked, potentially developing into something with Mahomes. 
 

they are lottery tickets and Moore (who has talent) might be what he is at this point. But love to see him live up to his draft status here.

[NeverOutNick]

3 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said:

Jeremy White ripped into beane?

He held his own and was composed. I think he could’ve done better and stayed firm and asked “Hey Brandon how are we pushing the safeties back with a bunch of guys who can’t separate? Hey Brandon is the plan to just keep re-signing other teams garbage instead of drafting our own? Hey Brandon do you think you’d lead the league in points with this WR corps and any other QB in this league besides Josh?”

[dave mcbride]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He definitely exceed my expectations for his  first few years. 

I thought he had his best season last year even if the receiving numbers weren't there. The only WRs from the 2019 draft who came after him and who had more catches are Hunter Renfro (out of the league last year) and Darius Slayton. No TE drafted after him (96 overall) is even close to him in terms of production. The only TEs drafted ahead of him with better receiving production are TJ Hockenson (8th overall) and Noah Fant (20th overall). 

[mikemac2001]

Maybe they talked to Moore before the draft and showed interest but wanted to follow up after incase they drafted someone 

 

this seems so logical and planned by both sides.

 

BBB is an idiot for having a plan

[Nephilim17]

Moore is under 5'10" and weighed 178 at the combine. He may have put on a few pounds of muscle since but I doubt he has the size to block at the level the team expects. Very curious.

[frostbitmic]

I wouldn't mind the signing but Brady is going to have to devise an Offense using 3 or 4 slot receivers at a time.

[C.Biscuit97]

2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I thought he had his best season last year even if the receiving numbers weren't there. The only WRs from the 2019 draft who came after him and who had more catches are Hunter Renfro (out of the league last year) and Darius Slayton. No TE drafted after him (96 overall) is even close to him in terms of production. The only TEs drafted ahead of him with better receiving production are TJ Hockenson (8th overall) and Noah Fant (20th overall). 

Fair. He’s a great guy but I do feel like we could his role/ production at a much cheaper rate from someone else. But that’s nitpicking. 

[dave mcbride]

5 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

They sold their souls last year in the transfer portal trying to make the playoff and failed at it. For the amount of money they put into that program sniping players from other programs they don’t win enough. 
 

Nolan, Amos, Dart amongst many others were not originally Miss players 

Can't you say that about every big time program at this point? The whole institution of NCAA football is wildly corrupt and frankly disgusting. But it's what we have. And sure, they failed, but they were a really good team whose three losses were by a combined 13 points. Again, I don't put much stock in making the college football playoff as a proper measure of success. Plus I don't actually care who wins championships in college ball.

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Eh, there’s a chance there is a future star that got drafted. I could see the Iowa State guys Houston took becoming stars. I think Emeka from OSU will be a very good number 2. Or Royals, a guy the bills liked, potentially developing into something with Mahomes. 
 

they are lottery tickets and Moore (who has talent) might be what he is at this point. But love to see him live up to his draft status here.

I don't even know where Royals fits in with Brown, Worthy, Rice, and Juju on the roster.  Maybe battling it out with Watson for that #5 role? Rather throw darts at D-line and CB's given where this team is.

[dave mcbride]

Just now, C.Biscuit97 said:

Fair. He’s a great guy but I do feel like we could his role/ production at a much cheaper rate from someone else. But that’s nitpicking. 

Also, perhaps the fact that he had no TDs at Ole Miss is because of who he had to compete with for the ball!

[GolfandBills]

3 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yea, more an inside guy than an outside guy, though he has played both.

Doesn’t really matter in Brady’s system with all the tight bunch alignments 

[Bockeye]

2 hours ago, boyst said:

another slot WR.... i'm ok with adding talent but we need more than just slots.

https://jetsxfactor.com/2021/11/23/elijah-moore-outside-wr-slot/

Maybe not?  There a few other articles and posts regarding Moore being effective outside…..but wasn’t used as much in that role, esp in CLV. 

 

Hope springs eternal.