Mikie2times Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I just really doubt that. I know it hasn't happened in the playoffs but we have played defensive battles against them in the regular season. 20-17 and 24-20. If we hold them to 20, I bet they hold us right around that too and it still comes down to the final 2 or 3 minutes of the ball game. Yup. Very few paths to winning it all that don't require the offense to have a few clutch drives. Quote
Billl Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: SIGN HIM! I wanted us to try and trade for him when he was with the Jets before he went to Cleveland. This guy would have a lot of potential in this offense. He’s been in football purgatory stuck in two dumpster fire organizations with inept QBs. F5 F5 F5 5 hours ago, Mat68 said: Midly productive with terrible qb play for the majority of his career. I think he is worth a look. 5 hours ago, Roundybout said: I mean he’s been catching passes from Zach Wilson, Mike White, Joe Flacco, and Deshawn Watson. 4 hours ago, Bag of Milk said: I have always been an Elijah Moore fan. I think he has untapped potential because he has played with middling teams and had poor QB play. Get 'er done Beane! Everyone continues to fall into this trap of thinking that WRs don’t put up numbers because of poor QB play, and that just isn’t the case. People were convinced that Amari Cooper was going to light it up with Josh after leaving Cleveland. It didn’t happen. Meanwhile, Jerry Jeudy moved from Denver to Cleveland and had a career year. If a WR doesn’t put up numbers, it’s because he’s not a very good WR. 1 3 1 Quote
transient Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I agree with this. The way to beat the Chiefs is to smash them in the face, rushing 4. Beane seems to be trying to get there. He tried to do it in the past, as well, and then Miller blew his knee out... Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 minute ago, Billl said: Everyone continues to fall into this trap of thinking that WRs don’t put up numbers because of poor QB play, and that just isn’t the case. People were convinced that Amari Cooper was going to light it up with Josh after leaving Cleveland. It didn’t happen. Meanwhile, Jerry Jeudy moved from Denver to Cleveland and had a career year. If a WR doesn’t put up numbers, it’s because he’s not a very good WR. No no no. It means whoever Cleveland's QB was last season was better than Josh Duhh 1 Quote
skibum Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Good depth at WR if he doesn't cost too much. Probably decent value due to underwhelming career numbers. You have to believe he can be more productive with Allen throwing to him. Flacco is BY FAR the best QB he's ever had (though somewhat ironically, he had his worst season with Flacco...). Plenty of speed; maybe he can return kicks, too? Quote
TBBills Fan Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Everyone seems to write off shavers, Virgil and hamper as nothing. But those guys have been putting in the work on the team. Who's to say all of them will not contribute this year? 2 Quote
jkeerie Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Jeremy White and many Bills fans- Bills should want to be better at Wr BB- stop your crying. We were great last year. Forget that we scrambled to find a WR in season and gave up a 3rd because we couldn't get separation. And as a result still couldn't get separation. Bills fans- Yeah Go Beane!!! You tell em. Jeremy white sucks. Beane has Moore in for a visit following the interview Wait.....what!? reminds me of when my son gets challenged to clean his room. He argues with his mom that "the room is clean and she's nagging him". as soon as he gets off the phone with her, he runs upstairs and cleans his room. The WGR interview did not prompt Elijah Moore coming in. Beane was on OBL today. He said they had discussions with Moore prior to the draft and decided to "stick a pin in it" until post draft depending on what Buffalo did. For example, had the Bills drafted a WR in the first or second round, likely the interest would wane on both sides. Since the value wasn't there for Buffalo and they waited until the 7th round, the interest on both the Bills and Moore's end is higher. I got the impression, Moore was already in the building. 5 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, chris heff said: If a 25 year old Jerry Rice was brought in for a visit people on this board would complain. Too slow. Pass / 2 Quote
Brandon Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 5 hours ago, turbo044 said: 8.8 YPC is ridiculously low for a 4.35 guy?? Maybe it's the way CLE used him? 4.35 speed is enticing though, can he run go routes? Big enough? Yeah, I'm sure it's a usage issue. Curtis Samuel is kind of like that, with a 10.4 career YPC...in the 9 range the last four years....and he's probably still in the 4.3s. Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, jkeerie said: The WGR interview did not prompt Elijah Moore coming in. Beane was on OBL today. He said they had discussions with Moore prior to the draft and decided to "stick a pin in it" until post draft depending on what Buffalo did. For example, had the Bills drafted a WR in the first or second round, likely the interest would wane on both sides. Since the value wasn't there for Buffalo and they waited until the 7th round, the interest on both the Bills and Moore's end is higher. I got the impression, Moore was already in the building. Exactly. There's no way that I'd believe that Beane got on the horn and got on Moore in house that fast. This is what makes it even more odd that he crashed out on them. He was already doing what they were actually talking about. In essence he agreed with them that they need a little more help. Why not just say that ya know? I don't believe Beane had placed much value in the WR class this year. That's cool. Edited 5 hours ago by Goin Breakdown Quote
Mikie2times Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 47 minutes ago, Billl said: Everyone continues to fall into this trap of thinking that WRs don’t put up numbers because of poor QB play, and that just isn’t the case. People were convinced that Amari Cooper was going to light it up with Josh after leaving Cleveland. It didn’t happen. Meanwhile, Jerry Jeudy moved from Denver to Cleveland and had a career year. If a WR doesn’t put up numbers, it’s because he’s not a very good WR. It's in the middle IMO. But point taken. 1 Quote
TheWei44 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I just really doubt that. I know it hasn't happened in the playoffs but we have played defensive battles against them in the regular season. 20-17 and 24-20. If we hold them to 20, I bet they hold us right around that too and it still comes down to the final 2 or 3 minutes of the ball game. By the same token, if it does come down to the last few minutes in a tight game, maybe we'll be in a better position to get that one key stop on defense? One can hope! I agree past history isn't very encouraging but we did seem to really load up on D this draft. 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: I don't believe Beane had placed much value in the WR class this year. That's cool. It's cool only if he's is proven right. The closest thing he's had to hits at WR since he took over the Bills war room 7 drafts ago are Shakir and Davis. Who have accounted for just 2 seasons of over 800 yards in their combined 7 with Buffalo. That's not cool. The last time there was such justified angst about him not acquiring WR talent was the 2019 draft when he just kept passing on WR in favor of guys like Cody Ford and Devin Singletary. AJ Brown and DK Metcalf went after Ford. Terry McLaurin went right after Singlecontract. Deebo Samuel went 2 picks before Cody Ford. For such a bad WR draft it produced some of the biggest playmakers in the game at WR. And Beane missed entirely. Which then lead to having to build a top 3 WR corps of free agents and a high priced veteran who required a 1st round pick to acquire. Even a Darius Slayton from that 2019 "bad" WR draft would be valuable on this deep threat bereft roster. 2 1 Quote
Pete Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: It's cool only if he's is proven right. The closest thing he's had to hits at WR since he took over the Bills war room 7 drafts ago are Shakir and Davis. Who have accounted for just 2 seasons of over 800 yards in their combined 7 with Buffalo. That's not cool. The last time there was such justified angst about him not acquiring WR talent was the 2019 draft when he just kept passing on WR in favor of guys like Cody Ford and Devin Singletary. AJ Brown and DK Metcalf went after Ford. Terry McLaurin went right after Singlecontract. Deebo Samuel went 2 picks before Cody Ford. For such a bad WR draft it produced some of the biggest playmakers in the game at WR. And Beane missed entirely. Which then lead to having to build a top 3 WR corps of free agents and a high priced veteran who required a 1st round pick to acquire. Even a Darius Slayton from that 2019 "bad" WR draft would be valuable on this deep threat bereft roster. Deonte Hardy Sherfield Kelvin Benjamin LMAO 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago This isn't a surprise. I mentioned his name alongside Chark a number of times after the Draft ended. If you value speed, in a WR that's under 30, that's had production in this league - Elijah Moore and DJ Chark are pretty much the only options out there. Chark is older and had an injury riddled 2024. So them preferring Moore makes sense. Hopefully they learned from 2024 and will strike fast following the Draft instead of waiting and missing out on the top guys left (when they had to settle for MVS and Claypool). Quote
RobbRiddick Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 6 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Beane heard we wanted Moore WRs Thank god we don't digg WRs 1 Quote
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