transient Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago I find it a little disingenuous of White to try to put this on Beane when the segment right before he's on, when Beane is most likely to be listening, is his criticism of the WR room and he's sitting in front of a Zubaz board that mockingly says "Bills Receivers Board" and it has no names on it... 3 Quote
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 38 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: Lead in TD this past season. I’ll have to take a closer look at this as well but I believe he was the guy in the Chiefs playoff loss also. Hollins had less than half the yards, receptions and targets of Shakir last season. To his credit, Hollins had 1 more TD than Shakir. In no way was the guy that averaged 1.8 catches per game and 22 yards per game considered the leading WR for the Bills in 2024. 2 Quote
Big Blitz Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 23 minutes ago, HappyDays said: He can defend his decision making, I'm completely fine with that. I do not like the way he went about it at all though. Bringing up Josh Rosen vs Josh Allen from 2018 showed that this wasn't just him defending himself, he lost control of his emotions. And maybe it was all a planned stunt anyways, that wouldn't surprise me. It just brings unneccessary attention and is the totally wrong approach IMO. I don’t disagree. The “tone” of the morning guys tho is 100% “this team keeps screwing up WR.” That’s their focus. It’s certainly worth discussing. But that shouldn’t and would not have been my focus on a draft where it was clear as day what needed to be addressed and what was. It just doesn’t draw the same attention and ratings or clicks I guess. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, JESSEFEFFER said: He's on now and I have never seen/heard Brandon Beane so salty on an interview. He is prickly about the WR/draft conversation. Interesting interaction and not the usual Beane interview. Ya know what, i like it. He feels that strongly about it and likes the addition of Palmer + healthy Samuel, than it makes me feel better. Attaboy Beane! Quote
NoSaint Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Tony P said: I love the way BB came into the conversation. Seems like the "WR train" talk on 'gr is a constant topic. Bad radio imo. WR is not the reason the Bills have not advanced in the playoffs. The "d" has come up small year after year. I was hoping that the Bills focused heavily on strengthening that side of the ball in this draft. Eagles showed the way. score a lot of points with great offensive weapons and let the DL get after the passer? Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago The irony of the situation is that they have Elijah visiting today 🤣 Beane did a great job addressing the defense in the draft and in the off-season. I think it’s a personally very reasonable for fans to expect that they should’ve drafted a receiver to develop within the first three rounds but sounds like they didn’t really like many of them. We all want Justin Jefferson and Ja’Marr Chase but when you’re 13 and four every year it’s almost impossible to get your hands on those guys. I’ll take being good over having shiny toys. Quote
bearstobills Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: I guess it depends on your assessment of certain players. I'm no draft expert but guys I trust liked Royals and Horton who went much lower in the 4th and 5th and we're there for the Bills. It definitely depends on Beane's assessment. He has a 1rst round grade on Walker going into the season. It goes without saying that they didn't have anything near a 1rst round grade on Royals. As for Horton, he went before the Bills picked in the 5th. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SoMAn said: For all you experts who are disappointed that the Bills didn't get a WR earlier in the draft - give us a name that would have made you happy. Going into the draft, everyone knew they were going to target DT, DE, and CB early on - areas of need. Nobody can deny that the defense needed fortification. Those needs were addressed with the first 3 picks, rightly so. So, my question for those whining about the lack of a receiving threat - who was available that they could have chosen that would've provided an upgrade to the existing squad? Realistically, any rookie WR is going to experience some challenges in year one, even those taken in the first round. What impact do you think a 4th rounder would have? Just to reiterate Beane's valid point, the Bills were a top scoring team. I don't think the loss of Mack Hollins and Amari Cooper are going to change that metric. I have stated I "hoped" Beane would draft a WR from the 4th round on. I'm no expert college player evaluator but evidently none was worth picking in Beane's opinion. I will say this. Last draft after Coleman was selected in the 2nd round there was incessant demanding of another WR taken. What is funny is that from the 3rd round on 24 WRs were drafted. The WR with the most yards was Devaughn Velle from Denver with 475 yards drafted in the 7th round (Pick #235). Maybe last year's deep WR draft wasn't that deep after all. Beane is a straight shooter with the press most times. "Everyone eats" is what they are doing. Anyone thinking he was signing Metcalf just doesn't get it. 2 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Beane is so full of crap. He's the one who went into a STACKED WR draft last year and took only one, after trading down twice. He's the one who was scrambling to trade for a WR1 in the middle of the season last year - guess what, the fans were right that they were understaffed heading into the season. He's the one setting up numerous top-30 meetings with WR prospects then not drafting them. He's the one who already seems to be drafting replacements/contingency plans for two of his high picks last year (Bishop and Carter). For the price of one of them (Bishop) he likely could've traded up for Brian Thomas. And Beane is the one who is now shopping on the WR market (see Elijah Moore) after telling the media and fans to "quit their bitching." Again, he's full of crap. For many here he is infallible, which is just as off base as he's awful. But as has been pointed out over a 100 times, he doesn't see nuance to the offensive production. That production is excellent, so attention can be spent elsewhere. It's punishing Allen because he's that good. They don't feel like he needs additional resources. 2 2 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago It couldn’t be better than to watch these clowns on WGR get out in their places. This team has been the best team ever to not make a Super Bowl. The offense has been elite for 7 years. They score at will. It’s the only reason we are good every year. The reason we can’t get over the hump is we can’t stop anyone. Every single problem with this team is the defense. Then you have these 2 crying about WR every day. Look at the roster. There’s no place to even add one. We scored anytime we wanted. We always do. Enough of these WGR guys. Love it 2 2 Quote
Bruffalo Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Just now, The Firebaugh Kid said: The irony of the situation is that they have Elijah visiting today 🤣 Beane did a great job addressing the defense in the draft and in the off-season. I think it’s a personally very reasonable for fans to expect that they should’ve drafted a receiver to develop within the first three rounds but sounds like they didn’t really like many of them. We all want Justin Jefferson and Ja’Marr Chase but when you’re 13 and four every year it’s almost impossible to get your hands on those guys. I’ll take being good over having shiny toys. Jefferson went 22nd so I don't know if you're making the point you want to make. That would be absolutely reachable this draft if the Bills wanted to. I'm not saying the Bills were wrong for not going and getting someone like Golden, to be fair. Quote
Southern Bills Fan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: It couldn’t be better than to watch these clowns on WGR get out in their places. This team has been the best team ever to not make a Super Bowl. The offense has been elite for 7 years. They score at will. It’s the only reason we are good every year. The reason we can’t get over the hump is we can’t stop anyone. Every single problem with this team is the defense. Then you have these 2 crying about WR every day. Look at the roster. There’s no place to even add one. We scored anytime we wanted. We always do. Enough of these WGR guys. Love it "We score anytime we wanted"? Pretty sure we wanted to on the last two drives of the last two playoff games. 3 1 1 2 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Just now, Bruffalo said: Jefferson went 22nd so I don't know if you're making the point you want to make. That would be absolutely reachable this draft if the Bills wanted to. I'm not saying the Bills were wrong for not going and getting someone like Golden, to be fair. That is true there are some diamonds towards the end of the first round most years. I don’t think anybody knew Jefferson was going to be the guy that he is though. I think the sad truth is that they chose to invest in Keon Coleman, and while obviously I want him to succeed, he’s not the guy anybody really wanted because he doesn’t separate. Quote
Bruffalo Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: That is true there are some diamonds towards the end of the first round most years. I don’t think anybody knew Jefferson was going to be the guy that he is though. I think the sad truth is that they chose to invest in Keon Coleman, and while obviously I want him to succeed, he’s not the guy anybody really wanted because he doesn’t separate. Coleman could still be decent, his ceiling is huge. Whether or not it's attainable is an entirely other question. Honestly if they go out and sign Moore and maybe another guy who's had potential but couldn't put it together I'll be satisfied for the most part. That's probably about the same as getting a WR in the 4-5th round in terms of potential. Beane shouldn't be so salty when folks rightfully question the room though, it's very clearly something that Allen elevates, not something that's a strength. 1 Quote
Cheektowaga Chad Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 11 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: The irony of the situation is that they have Elijah visiting today 🤣 Beane did a great job addressing the defense in the draft and in the off-season. I think it’s a personally very reasonable for fans to expect that they should’ve drafted a receiver to develop within the first three rounds but sounds like they didn’t really like many of them. We all want Justin Jefferson and Ja’Marr Chase but when you’re 13 and four every year it’s almost impossible to get your hands on those guys. I’ll take being good over having shiny toys. The Elijah Moore visiting is what makes all of this weird Like the bills know they need another wr and are trying to get one but yet beane goes off on the wgr wr train 1 Quote
blitzboy54 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, billsfan714 said: The mighty Chiefs offense scored more than 30 points exactly once last year, and it was against us. And they played in yet another SB and beat us. If our strength was our Offense the effectively neutered it. Guys simply can't take the top off. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, yall said: Wow, he came in hot for sure. I think he said "you guys need something to B word about" 4 times. oooooh, I cant wait to listen to this! 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Just now, Einstein said: oooooh, I cant wait to listen to this! There’s a condensed version on YouTube about 17 minutes long. Quote
JESSEFEFFER Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: The irony of the situation is that they have Elijah visiting today 🤣 Beane did a great job addressing the defense in the draft and in the off-season. I think it’s a personally very reasonable for fans to expect that they should’ve drafted a receiver to develop within the first three rounds but sounds like they didn’t really like many of them. We all want Justin Jefferson and Ja’Marr Chase but when you’re 13 and four every year it’s almost impossible to get your hands on those guys. I’ll take being good over having shiny toys. Elijah Moore is a great example of the kind of value talent that can pay off big. He's been with the Jets and Browns and his career has suffered the consequences. He could be ripe for a short term opportunity here on the cheap. All the WR talk now and pretty much since last August has gotten many salty takes. Beane has taken a money ball approach to the WR room and it worked last year. WRs that block, don't drop the ball and don't complain about their role can get you a long way with Josh Allen as the QB. Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Cheektowaga Chad said: The Elijah Moore visiting is what makes all of this weird Like the bills know they need another wr and are trying to get one but yet beane goes off on the wgr wr train It is a strange dynamic. They acknowledged there’s a need, but they are unable to address it in the draft in the early rounds before all of the talented players are gone. Hell we all woulda given em an A if Tory Horton was a Bill today. He hung around until the fifth round if I’m not mistaken. It’s like they acknowledge there’s a need but don’t criticize them when they don’t find a way to fill it in the draft. Quote
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