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Just now, K D said:

I'm with you but I think they are thinking Josh is going to cover up the short comings of the offense and they can then spend more on the defense. We just saw the Eagles destroy the Chiefs with a crazy good DL. That's fine except the Bills have no idea what they are doing when it comes to rushing the QB and they just keep throwing resources at it and missing on all of them. How many picks have we wasted on DL and they are all mediocre?


Yes the defense killed Mahomes and we needed to add for sure, I have no problem with that at all. The Eagles also got TD from Devonta Smith and AJ Brown in that SB win.

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Beane was extremely defensive about his decision making process, obviously way more than was warranted. He's probably not having a great morning and is taking aggression out.

 

I don't think the morning show is particularly critical to the Bills, the afternoon show is way more worse and condescending towards Beane's decisions.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Yea, it’s never a focus. Beane needs to turnover every rock he can with what is still out there. Elijah Moore? Great look at him. The WR room is not great and very shallow. It probably can’t be improved much but he has to be constantly looking.

It was a focus last year. They spent money in free agency, drafted one high, and traded for a big name.

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2 minutes ago, bearstobills said:

Why is a GM sharply defending his 13-4, two playoff victories, #2 offense in the NFL football team "losing control of his emotions"?

He used the word "B word" four times in a couple minutes. I know it's not 1950 and that word is semi-acceptable now but that shows at the very least he's quite annoyed. Not unhinged but upset.

I think the fact that Beane and McD in the recent past (was this a talking point last off-season?) said we had to add more explosiveness to this offense and yet we never addressed that is the big point. 

Palmer has some verticality to his game and he separates but he's not explosive. 

Very, very few people were asking for a WR in the first three picks but there were guys that ticked that box and had good consensus grades there to be had in the fourth or even fifth rounds. It's not binary: you can go D heavy throughout most of the draft and still take a WR in the 4th or 5th. That's not unreasonable. That's what most critical fans are talking about. 

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Agree with Beane 100 percent. We were 2nd in scoring last year. Philly proved without a doubt Mahomes can be shut down. We've given up 34.75 points to KC in the four playoff losses. The defense should be the number one priority if we want to win a Superbowl. 

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"This isn't fantasy football, you can't have an all pro QB and pro bowl WR's and all pro RB and all pro defense..."

 

Eagles - "you sure about that?"

 

Think Tim Robinson GIF by NETFLIX

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4 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

He used the word "B word" four times in a couple minutes. I know it's not 1950 and that word is semi-acceptable now but that shows at the very least he's quite annoyed. Not unhinged but upset.

I think the fact that Beane and McD in the recent past (was this a talking point last off-season?) said we had to add more explosiveness to this offense and yet we never addressed that is the big point. 

Palmer has some verticality to his game and he separates but he's not explosive. 

Very, very few people were asking for a WR in the first three picks but there were guys that ticked that box and had good consensus grades there to be had in the fourth or even fifth rounds. It's not binary: you can go D heavy throughout most of the draft and still take a WR in the 4th or 5th. That's not unreasonable. That's what most critical fans are talking about. 

I get it, and appreciate your reply.  Deone Walker in the 4th has 1rst round upside. If he hits, we have a monster.  There was no receiver who has that kind of upside in the 4th.  He also stated in his presser that they were ready to pick 2 wide receivers but both went off the board just before their picks.  He knows better not to reach.  He reached with Elam, and fans here will never let him off the hook.  

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11 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

But those pass catchers who let us down were big money #1 Diggs and the first-round pick Kincaid. We certainly need people to step up, but just throwing assets at the position isn't going to fix that. I agree, we need some people to step up. Guys like Coleman, who was a high pick, Shakir, who is being paid like a #1, and Palmer and Samuel, who are being paid a lot as well. To to mention first round pick Kincaid and highly paid TE in Knox. Those guys all have to be better. 

"Throwing assets at the position" is literally what we've done to the defense for years

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11 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

He can defend his decision making, I'm completely fine with that. I do not like the way he went about it at all though. Bringing up Josh Rosen vs Josh Allen from 2018 showed that this wasn't just him defending himself, he lost control of his emotions. And maybe it was all a planned stunt anyways, that wouldn't surprise me. It just brings unneccessary attention and is the totally wrong approach IMO.

 

Thats fair.   He 100% lost control of his emotions.   But I dont think thats a huge surprise from him.   He lost control of his emotions when he defended the City of Buffalo last year.   He lost them again during his end of the year press conference last season.    I personally dont mind it.    The winning buys him some slack with me.  It's football not politics.   And what he was saying wasnt inaccurate.  

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For all you experts who are disappointed that the Bills didn't get a WR earlier in the draft - give us a name that would have made you happy. It's so easy to say "get a wide receiver".  WR1's don't just grow on trees. There obviously wasn't one available at their pick that fit the grade the Bills'staff had on them. Glad they didn't 'reach'.

 

Going into the draft, everyone knew they were going to target DT, DE, and CB early on - areas of need. Nobody can deny that the defense needed fortification. Those needs were addressed with the first 3 picks, rightly so.

 

So, my question for those whining about the lack of a receiving threat - who was available that they could have chosen that would've provided an upgrade to the existing squad?  

Realistically, any rookie WR is going to experience some challenges in year one, even those taken in the first round. What impact do you think a 4th rounder would have?

Just to reiterate Beane's valid point, the Bills were a top scoring team. I don't think the loss of Mack Hollins and Amari Cooper are going to change that metric.

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Could Beane have handled that better by not sounding as defensive as he did?  Absolutely.   Honestly, I really don't care because substantively speaking he is 100% correct.

 

What he said is exactly what I have been arguing with on this board for months.  People clamoring to the point of obsession to get a WR, as if it was anywhere near the biggest need on this team.   He basically said the exact same things I have been saying which is that the offense has been historically playing at an elite level, and people still obsess that we need a WR over defense.  It is borderline asinine.  It's ludicrous and makes no logical sense whatsoever.  

 

 

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6 minutes ago, bearstobills said:

I get it, and appreciate your reply.  Deone Walker in the 4th has 1rst round upside. If he hits, we have a monster.  There was no receiver who has that kind of upside in the 4th.  He also stated in his presser that they were ready to pick 2 wide receivers but both went off the board just before their picks.  He knows better not to reach.  He reached with Elam, and fans here will never let him off the hook.  

I guess it depends on your assessment of certain players. I'm no draft expert but guys I trust liked Royals and Horton who went much lower in the 4th and 5th and we're there for the Bills.

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Beane is so full of crap.

 

He's the one who went into a STACKED WR draft last year and took only one, after trading down twice.

 

He's the one who was scrambling to trade for a WR1 in the middle of the season last year - guess what, the fans were right that they were understaffed heading into the season.

 

He's the one setting up numerous top-30 meetings with WR prospects then not drafting them. 

 

He's the one who already seems to be drafting replacements/contingency plans for two of his high picks last year (Bishop and Carter).  For the price of one of them (Bishop) he likely could've traded up for Brian Thomas.

 

And Beane is the one who is now shopping on the WR market (see Elijah Moore) after telling the media and fans to "quit their bitching."

 

Again, he's full of crap.

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unprofessional by Beane

 

it's a radio show and you're the GM of one of the most successful franchises in football

 

he doesn't need to defend himself to those clowns

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10 minutes ago, Rousseauisnoschmo said:

Agree with Beane 100 percent. We were 2nd in scoring last year. Philly proved without a doubt Mahomes can be shut down. We've given up 34.75 points to KC in the four playoff losses. The defense should be the number one priority if we want to win a Superbowl. 

I don't know if it's been mentioned here but Beane used the first picks in the 2023 and 2024 drafts on a receiver, spent a 3rd on Cooper and spent a 1st and 3rd on Diggs, so, he definitely doesn't ignore WR.  He may not get them all right, Cooper kind of sucked and we'll see on Coleman and Kinkaid.  I loved Royal and wanted him and I thin kwe should have drafted him when he fell, but Beane doesn't undervalue WR.

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