Brandon Beane on WGR

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Malazan said:

I think people overlook that this WR room has been under attack for 2 years now being told they suck. The GM coming out with this sort of defense of them likely goes a long way with those guys in the locker room.

 

I personally think there is little chance this wasn't a planned and calculated thing from Beane.

I disagree and think he was just frustrated from the questions he received all weekend about WR.  Then when he thinks he hit a home run draft there's pretty much nothing but negativity by Jeremy and Joe about not addressing the WR position in the draft before joining with Beane live.  If it was calculated I doubt he targets a morning radio show to do it.

[GerstAusGosheim]

They missed on Kincaid. They missed on Coleman. They were caught unprepared when Diggs departed. Sean is tired of his D not being at the level of Leslie and wants to secure a DC job next year if he fails to make the Super Bowl again.

[Buckets]

9 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

What did we win? It obviously wasn't enough. They've had 8 years to build a defense that can even be decent in the playoffs and haven't been able to do it. Our offense doesn't have the luxury that the Chiefs and Eagles do where their QB's can potentially have an up and down postseason and still make it or win the SB. Maybe we still need more weaponry to be able to answer the crazy ask that's being demanded of them. 

Wouldn't that point to needing a better defense, you're actually supporting his draft picks 😉 

[machine gun kelly]

21 hours ago, turbo044 said:

I think Beane is sick of the press scrutiny and took it out on them.  Very unlike Beane, he could have handled it better

Disagree - Jeremy didn't back down, he defended the show and his stance.  Beane calmed down a little bit

I listened when it was on, and Jeremy was fine.  He had to show respect to the GM, but didn’t back down.  I had no issues as I expected Jeremy to back down even more. Beane was having a bad morning.  He’s probably sick if the second guessing as he brought up JA vs. Rosen.

[CoudyBills]

Bad look for Beane.  Professionals are expected to be professional all the time.  

[Matt_In_NH]

21 hours ago, turbo044 said:

I think Beane is sick of the press scrutiny and took it out on them.  Very unlike Beane, he could have handled it better

Disagree - Jeremy didn't back down, he defended the show and his stance.  Beane calmed down a little bit

I think it likely has been building for years.  Two years ago sneaky Joe was so sophisticated in his deep football knowledge he thought you just have to score 50 points as the only way to beat the chiefs. He literally coined the phrase defense shmefense when talking about where to use capital. Just get as many WRs as you can.   Just like fantasy football like beane referenced.  This was not just a yesterday Thing. 

[Cray51]

1 hour ago, GerstAusGosheim said:

They missed on Kincaid. They missed on Coleman. They were caught unprepared when Diggs departed. Sean is tired of his D not being at the level of Leslie and wants to secure a DC job next year if he fails to make the Super Bowl again.

Wild take.  Caught unprepared when Diggs left?  They literally were the ones that decided to do it.  Kincaid had a bad second year but a great rookie year.  Coleman had a solid start, and then fractured his wrist and missed a chunk of time…

 

cmon now

[Pete]

7 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

Wild take.  Caught unprepared when Diggs left?  They literally were the ones that decided to do it.  Kincaid had a bad second year but a great rookie year.  Coleman had a solid start, and then fractured his wrist and missed a chunk of time…

 

cmon now

Compare Keon against Ladd McConkey

 

Compare Dalton to Sam LaPorta

 

Players drafted after Dalton and Keon produced substantially more than Keon and Dalton rookie years. Keon and Dalton were awful in the playoffs.  We have every right to be disappointed in Keon and Dalton

[4th&long]

Well he did recognize that we needed a reciever last year and traded for one. They Didn’t resign him or Mack hollins. Is Palmer better? 

 

Didn't I just see another thread title about Moore visiting the bills? So bean goes off on war knowing he needs a WR? Cringe worthy! 

 

These guys have a lot of air time to fill in the off season, of course they are going to throw a lot of ***** against the wall to see what sticks. That's why I don't listen. Bean needs to grow a pair. 

[Trogdor]

20 hours ago, turbo044 said:

I don't know if it's been mentioned here but Beane used the first picks in the 2023 and 2024 drafts on a receiver, spent a 3rd on Cooper and spent a 1st and 3rd on Diggs, so, he definitely doesn't ignore WR.  He may not get them all right, Cooper kind of sucked and we'll see on Coleman and Kinkaid.  I loved Royal and wanted him and I thin kwe should have drafted him when he fell, but Beane doesn't undervalue WR.

He doesn't evaluate well in the early rounds outside of Allen, and he really doesn't evaluate WR well at all either. That Diggs trade looked good short term, but consider who he passed on in that draft its rough. Cooper was bad all year, the wheels have fallen off and that's a miss, Coleman is exactly what the scouting said he would be. He is a big body who high points well but can't get open, which means he is a really good piece but never a #1. 

43 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

Wild take.  Caught unprepared when Diggs left?  They literally were the ones that decided to do it.  Kincaid had a bad second year but a great rookie year.  Coleman had a solid start, and then fractured his wrist and missed a chunk of time…

 

cmon now

Kincaid getting drafted for his hands and then only catching about half the balls thrown to him is worse than bad. Blaming a leg injury for dropping the pass in the playoffs was also a choice. They need a safety valve who can get open when they need it and they still don't have one of those, it really hurt them when the sneaks stopped working. 

[Andrew Son]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

I listened when it was on, and Jeremy was fine.  He had to show respect to the GM, but didn’t back down.  I had no issues as I expected Jeremy to back down even more. Beane was having a bad morning.  He’s probably sick if the second guessing as he brought up JA vs. Rosen.

I feel the complete opposite.  The lead crusader of the WR train should have just owned his take instead of getting super defensive.  

[Trogdor]

8 hours ago, MasterStrategist said:

Eagles did what LY, that led to a SB season?

 

I'll give a hint...Buffalo followed suit stocking up defense.

Why do people keep acting like the Eagles don't have an extremely talented offense too? They can make plays when they have too, and they can absolutely win in a shootout. This idea that they won only because of defense is crazy, the NFC had a few teams that probably could've beaten the chiefs. The Bills would've been murdered in the SB with the roster he assembled. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Trogdor
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[Rousseauisnoschmo]

1 hour ago, GerstAusGosheim said:

They missed on Kincaid. They missed on Coleman. They were caught unprepared when Diggs departed. Sean is tired of his D not being at the level of Leslie and wants to secure a DC job next year if he fails to make the Super Bowl again.

Little early to say they missed on Kincaid and coleman. I'd give each until the end of year three before I made any judgments on either guy. Kincaid had a decent rookie year then took a step back allegedly due in part to injury. Coleman was averaging twenty yards a reception before he got hurt. Looked pretty explosive to me at times. The Houston td is a good example of that.

[MasterStrategist]

13 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

Why do people keep acting like the Eagles don't have an extremely talented offense too? They can make plays when they have too, and they can absolutely win in a shootout. This idea that they won only because of defense is crazy, the NFC had a few teams that probably could've beaten the chiefs. The Bills would've been murdered in the SB with the roster he assembled. 

Bills have a talented offense too...

 

Why do people ignore we just set records internally, one of highest scoring offenses (better than Eagles), and Josh won MVP?

 

It's like we just finished 20th or worse as an offense --- oh wait that was our defense

[WNYFAN1]

5 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Bills have a talented offense too...

 

Why do people ignore we just set records internally, one of highest scoring offenses (better than Eagles), and Josh won MVP?

 

It's like we just finished 20th or worse as an offense --- oh wait that was our defense

All true... but conveniently ignores the fact that the Bills defense DID generate a ton of turnovers, resulting in the offense having the best starting field position in the entire league. Gotta think that helped them score all those points...

[Trogdor]

Just now, MasterStrategist said:

Bills have a talented offense too...

 

Why do people ignore we just set records internally, one of highest scoring offenses (better than Eagles), and Josh won MVP?

 

It's like we just finished 20th or worse as an offense --- oh wait that was our defense

The Buffalo receivers can't separate against good or better secondaries. Who would you trust to be open and catch a ball when they actually need it? Nobody has shown that ability yet. 273 total yards against the Ravens wasn't exactly elite, they cant expect good teams to just kill themselves every year. Who even knows what this team looks like without the threat of Cook. The Eagles have a much more talented offense and that means something in the playoffs. 

[blitzboy54]

18 hours ago, eball said:

 

The highest scoring team in the league says hi.

 

The team that got exited twice from the playoffs with the ball in their hands with a chance to win and couldn't move the ball also says hi. 

They got stopped on 4th down 3 times. Chiefs keep giving Pat more toys, and they keep sending us home. The best look at a SB was the year we beat the Chiefs at their house in the playoffs right before coach gotta have a defense gave it back. We had the most dynamic passing game in football. God forbid we do that again 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:

The team that got exited twice from the playoffs with the ball in their hands with a chance to win and couldn't move the ball also says hi. 

They got stopped on 4th down 3 times. Chiefs keep giving Pat more toys, and they keep sending us home. The best look at a SB was the year we beat the Chiefs at their house in the playoffs right before coach gotta have a defense gave it back. We had the most dynamic passing game in football. God forbid we do that again 

 

To be fair they did move the ball vs KC in Buffalo to get into scoring range, but Bass missed the kick to tie it. Although I have no doubt Mahomes would have led a drive in the final minute to win the game if it came to that.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

1 hour ago, Trogdor said:

He doesn't evaluate well in the early rounds outside of Allen, and he really doesn't evaluate WR well at all either. That Diggs trade looked good short term, but consider who he passed on in that draft its rough. Cooper was bad all year, the wheels have fallen off and that's a miss, Coleman is exactly what the scouting said he would be. He is a big body who high points well but can't get open, which means he is a really good piece but never a #1. 

Kincaid getting drafted for his hands and then only catching about half the balls thrown to him is worse than bad. Blaming a leg injury for dropping the pass in the playoffs was also a choice. They need a safety valve who can get open when they need it and they still don't have one of those, it really hurt them when the sneaks stopped working. 

Your math is worse than bad.  Kincaid has been targeted 166 times and caught 117 of them.  Unless you think 70% is about half?

[eball]

10 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:

The team that got exited twice from the playoffs with the ball in their hands with a chance to win and couldn't move the ball also says hi. 

They got stopped on 4th down 3 times. Chiefs keep giving Pat more toys, and they keep sending us home. The best look at a SB was the year we beat the Chiefs at their house in the playoffs right before coach gotta have a defense gave it back. We had the most dynamic passing game in football. God forbid we do that again 

 

The Bills scored 29 points in the playoffs against a team that averaged giving up 19.  They also got jobbed by the refs on at least two spots that would have extended drives.

 

Pat’s “toys” are irrelevant — their defense is what has made the difference the past few seasons.