Brandon Beane on WGR

[buffblue]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

You hit the nail on the head. In a weird twisted way, we love failure. We love to complain. We don;t know what to do with ourselves when things are good so we keepo moving the goalposts and act like this is all still failure.

Back in the drought era fans had every right to complain, and whether or not Jerry was an ass, he was absolutely unafraid to hold people's feet to the fire. I also thought he was underrated as an actual writer. But I definitely see your point

[balln]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Jerry is wrong. It is not McDermott's influence. It is Hurney and Gettleman's.

 

GM comes from team that undervalues drafting receivers and undervalues drafting receivers. More at 9.

100. This is the Carolina panthers 2.0. OL DL qb. Then a big tall wr (kelvin Benjamin and Keon Coleman) and fill out roster  best you can . 

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Jerry is wrong. It is not McDermott's influence. It is Hurney and Gettleman's.

 

GM comes from team that undervalues drafting receivers and undervalues drafting receivers. More at 9.

 

This is nonsense. You don't draft by quota.

[balln]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Ha, only in the media's mind. There's no pressure on Beane. And anyone thinks it's time to clean house deserves the Bills having a 25-year playoff drought.

I’m not saying he’ll be fired. Media / fan scrutiny and pressure. You don’t think he feels pressure ? At all? He wouldn’t act like he did today then

[bills6969]

Beane’s counter is valid.  They rightfully prioritized dline and CB early in this draft.  The WR class was pretty weak overall.  Would we feel any better about our WR room if we took a WR in the 5th round???

[ALLinALLEN]

Didnt like the way Beane handled himself today. If you're letting the WGR clowns fire you up you must really be butt hurt about the topic. Not a good look. Then you bring in Elijah Moore the same day. After you've dumpster dove (like previously posters said) on guys like Sherfield, Beasley and Brown again, etc....

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, buffblue said:

Back in the drought era fans had every right to complain, and whether or not Jerry was an ass, he was absolutely unafraid to hold people's feet to the fire. I also thought he was underrated as an actual writer. But I definitely see your point

 

It's easy being a bully, and that's all Jerry Sullivan and his ilk are. They don't have answers. Their job is to make you angry. That is about the ugliest way to make a living: stoking anger. Don't act like there's any bravery involved.

[GunnerBill]

I also think Jeremy was salty at the end "we are not playing fantasy football, we are smarter than that, and we are not here to be belittled"

 

It was all a bit tense. Anyone know where Joe was during the whole thing? He was happy for Jeremy to take the heat 🤣

[buffblue]

3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Jerry is wrong. It is not McDermott's influence. It is Hurney and Gettleman's.

 

GM comes from team that undervalues drafting receivers and undervalues drafting receivers. More at 9.

Yeah according to Gettleman you had to get those big old "hog mollies" as he called them over everything else. The best receivers on the Panthers 2015 Super Bowl team were Philly Brown, Ted Ginn, and Jericho Cotchery lol

[balln]

Just now, ALLinALLEN said:

Didnt like the way Beane handled himself today. If you're letting the WGR clowns fire you up you must really be butt hurt about the topic. Not a good look. Then you bring in Elijah Moore the same day. After you've dumpster dove (like previously posters said) on guys like Sherfield, Beasley and Brown again, etc....

He sounded like a fan on the side of bills FO can do no wrong. Like bob from Kenmore calling in 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

This is nonsense. You don't draft by quota.

 

No, you don't. But when GMs have 5 plus years in a job certain trends display themselves. 

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, balln said:

I’m not saying he’ll be fired. Media / fan scrutiny and pressure. You don’t think he feels pressure ? At all? He wouldn’t act like he did today then

 

That isn't pressure. That's having enough of the BS. That's hitting your limit of clowns telling you how to do your job.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, buffblue said:

Yeah according to Gettleman you had to get those big old "hog mollies" as he called them over everything else. The best receivers on the Panthers 2015 Super Bowl team were Philly Brown, Ted Ginn, and Jericho Cotchery lol

 

Gettleman drafted on WR in 5 drafts as Panthers GM. 

Marty Hurney drafted 6 in the first two days in 15 drafts as the GM over two spells. 

[NeverOutNick]

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think Jerry is wrong. It is not McDermott's influence. It is Hurney and Gettleman's.

 

GM comes from team that undervalues drafting receivers and undervalues drafting receivers. More at 9.

Ya you’re probably more right than wrong on this one. I used to 100% blame McD for the shortcomings on offensive weapons but after todays encounter I do lean more towards your line of thought but I’m sure McD isn’t mad at it lol

[JGMcD2]

17 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Oh we are definitely winning the SB this year.

 

 

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

No, you don't. But when GMs have 5 plus years in a job certain trends display themselves. 

 

I disagree. The drafts fell the way they did. You think you're seeing trends.

[ALLinALLEN]

5 minutes ago, balln said:

He sounded like a fan on the side of bills FO can do no wrong. Like bob from Kenmore calling in 

Yeah. He wasnt even necessarily wrong - I think we had a good draft and filled needs on D. He just came off super weird today.

[BillMafia716ix]

If Coleman and Kincaid step up this season, the receiving core can be even better than last year. 

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Ya you’re probably more right than wrong on this one. I used to 100% blame McD for the shortcomings on offensive weapons but after todays encounter I do lean more towards your line of thought but I’m sure McD isn’t mad at it lol

 

Yea I don't think McDermott is storming out of the room Doug Marrone style everytime Brandon drafts him a defensive player haha. But honestly this is the way Brandon believes teams should be built. He said it again in that interview today "you gotta have a Quarterback, and then you gotta be good up front." Given a choice between a lineman and a receiver he will always go lineman. It is just who he is. It is like anything, I am now a director at work and I sometimes catch myself making decisions or even using phrases that I go "man I sound just like the guy who was director when I started at bottom of the totem pole." We are all influenced by the professional cultures and philosophies we are exposed to earlier in our careers.

 

And to be clear - just in case Brandon is reading - I think he is a good general manager and I think he just had the best first 2 days of any draft since he snagged Josh Allen. You can believe that and still say the data supports him undervaluing receiver compared to the rest of the NFL. It is what it is.

Edited 3 hours ago by GunnerBill

[LEBills]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I also think Jeremy was salty at the end "we are not playing fantasy football, we are smarter than that, and we are not here to be belittled"

 

It was all a bit tense. Anyone know where Joe was during the whole thing? He was happy for Jeremy to take the heat 🤣

That’s why they call him sneaky