Pete Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I disagree. We invested our first pick last year on WR, we signed Palmer this year. We have Curtis Samuel and Khalil Shakir at WR. That is 4 players. At DT We have Oliver and a 3rd rd pick in Carter that couldn't get on the field last year and was a healthy scratch behind street FAs, that's it. DaQuon Jones is pretty much done, he's more likely to get cut than make the roster. So you're looking at a position that has 4 starters vs 1 that has a single starter. In that specific instance a 4th rounder at DT is absolutely able to be a difference-maker whereas a 4th rounder at WR would have to unseat one of 3 vets on substantial contracts or Coleman. No one is arguing about D. We are all in agreement that DL, Edge, CB needed prioritizing in draft. We just wanted one speedy WR who could catch. That’s it. Use every other pick on Defense. But giving Josh zero help when you have all those draft picks is aggravating. I referenced it in another thread- October 15 we traded for Amari. October 30, we scored 30 or more points in 8 games. That’s what having one speedy WR, can do for your offense. We are lacking speed, and desperate for it. Quote
ndirish1978 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Pete said: No one is arguing about D. We are all in agreement that DL, Edge, CB needed prioritizing in draft. We just wanted one speedy WR who could catch. That’s it. Use every other pick on Defense. But giving Josh zero help when you have all those draft picks is aggravating. I referenced it in another thread- October 15 we traded for Amari. October 30, we scored 30 or more points in 8 games. That’s what having one speedy WR, can do for your offense. We are lacking speed, and desperate for it. I was responding to a single point made by a single poster. Quote
Doc Brown Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 39 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Joe and Jeremy said flat out that the Bills (and Beane) by extension) "didn't value" WRs. I think it's great that Beane swung back at the radio clowns. It takes a lot of self discipline to remain thick skinned and not shoot back at the critics. Beane getting a little salty on a radio network doesn't mean hardly anything in the long run but I don't see this as some kind of putting these radio guys in their place type victory. It accomplishes nothing. 1 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 8 minutes ago, JohnNord said: It was a decisive “W” Beane I thought. Joe and Jeremy didn’t know what to do. After those two complained about WR all morning, he hit them in the mouth and they never recovered. Some fans might listen to the clip and think he came off as defensive. But you know who will love that? His players, coaches and people in the organization. Especially the WR’s on the roster Right. They backed off big time while Beane was on the phone, then after Jeremy got all insulted Beane came at him. The Bills blog-o-sphere is an echo chamber (or maybe a circle jerk) where the same people keep slapping each other on the back for being so smart about what the Bills need to do. So no wonder they get the vapors when the rather successful GM tells them they don't know it all. But they got the fan reaction they were looking for. Just two phone calls later some guy is ripping Beane, comparing him to Jason Botterill! So now the Bills are no different than the Sabres? WTF is it with this fan base? 1 1 Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: It takes a lot of self discipline to remain thick skinned and not shoot back at the critics. Beane getting a little salty on a radio network doesn't mean hardly anything in the long run but I don't see this as some kind of putting these radio guys in their place type victory. It accomplishes nothing. It doesn't, but at the same point it's about trying to change the narrative. People (IMO) are way over reacting and way too much attention is being put on the position. It's also taking focus away from the great new players we did draft. Not fair to the new guys. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Pete said: I bet Pat McAfee is also over Beane flipping out over WRs He gave it 20 seconds at the end of his show and took Beane's side completely. And also saw it like I did which was Beane being comfortable to dish it back since he has a good relationship with the WGR guys. 2hr50min exact mark (2:50:00) if my time URL doesnt work Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: It takes a lot of self discipline to remain thick skinned and not shoot back at the critics. Beane getting a little salty on a radio network doesn't mean hardly anything in the long run but I don't see this as some kind of putting these radio guys in their place type victory. It accomplishes nothing. Jeremy & Joe went right back to hyperventilating about WRs. When the report about Elijah Moore visiting the Bills came out minutes after the Beane interview, they practically took credit for it! 1 4 Quote
Gregg Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Pete said: No one is arguing about D. We are all in agreement that DL, Edge, CB needed prioritizing in draft. We just wanted one speedy WR who could catch. That’s it. Use every other pick on Defense. But giving Josh zero help when you have all those draft picks is aggravating. I referenced it in another thread- October 15 we traded for Amari. October 30, we scored 30 or more points in 8 games. That’s what having one speedy WR, can do for your offense. We are lacking speed, and desperate for it. Going into the playoffs with a stronger defense probably helps Josh more than any WR could. The offense is fine with what they have but if the defense can start stopping teams in the playoffs, then the Bills will have an excellent chance to win a Super Bowl. 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said: It doesn't, but at the same point it's about trying to change the narrative. People (IMO) are way over reacting and way too much attention is being put on the position. It's also taking focus away from the great new players we did draft. Not fair to the new guys. All Beane did was heighten the concern fans have about not having a good enough WR core. He amplified that narrative. Nobody's talking about TJ Edwards right now. Lol. Edited 8 hours ago by Doc Brown Quote
The Wiz Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Jeremy & Joe went right back to hyperventilating about WRs. When the report about Elijah Moore visiting the Bills came out minutes after the Beane interview, they practically took credit for it! Which is funny since Beane said that they had already talked to Moore before the draft and said they would keep in touch with him after. So basically them not being in the room and not know what goes on makes them look like they were intentionally baiting Beane IMO. 1 Quote
Luka Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Right. They backed off big time while Beane was on the phone, then after Jeremy got all insulted Beane came at him. The Bills blog-o-sphere is an echo chamber (or maybe a circle jerk) where the same people keep slapping each other on the back for being so smart about what the Bills need to do. So no wonder they get the vapors when the rather successful GM tells them they don't know it all. But they got the fan reaction they were looking for. Just two phone calls later some guy is ripping Beane, comparing him to Jason Botterill! So now the Bills are no different than the Sabres? WTF is it with this fan base? What's with this fan base is that they turn on the radio and listen to the circle jerk and then they come on a message board to regurgitate all of the talking points. The bottom line is we signed Palmer, Shenault, drafted a kid, have Samuel that may finally be healthy this year and brought Moore in to kick the tires. Beane has historically spent a ton of capital on addressing the wide receiver room. This offseason hasn't been any different. I guess my question is, who was the can't miss prospect at wide receiver that the Bills had a realistic opportunity to draft? 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Brandon Beane reminds me of my boss when I asked for a raise 2 Quote
RiotAct Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 9 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Jeremy & Joe went right back to hyperventilating about WRs. When the report about Elijah Moore visiting the Bills came out minutes after the Beane interview, they practically took credit for it! obviously Beane was so ashamed that he got Moore’s agent on the phone and rushed him to Orchard Park, pronto 1 Quote
H2o Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Lol. Beane a bit butthurt here. Listing Kincaid as an option similar to Kelce, LaPorta, or Kittle is pretty hilarious. Kincaid isn't anywhere near that level yet, and actually ended our season this year with his whiff on 4th down. 3 Quote
Bruffalo Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, Luka said: I guess my question is, who was the can't miss prospect at wide receiver that the Bills had a realistic opportunity to draft? Can't miss? There wasn't one. Not really the point though. NFL history has plenty of WRs taken in late rounds who end up being great. 5-6th round guys who end up surprising everyone. You can't get the next Puka Nacua without taking a swing. That's really my only complaint with Beane this draft. You need to shore up the defense with 4 big draft picks? Sure, I trust you. Throw Allen a bone though with some 5th-6th round lottery tickets and maybe a guy will shock you coming out of training camp. Edited 8 hours ago by Bruffalo Quote
The Wiz Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, RiotAct said: obviously Beane was so ashamed that he got Moore’s agent on the phone and rushed him to Orchard Park, pronto Could be posturing but said on OBL that they had already talked to him before the draft and said they would keep in touch with him depending on how the draft went. Quote
boyst Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Anyone who wants to hear what real interviewers sound like with Brandon Bean can turn to Sirius NFL radio, and you'll see the difference. Is on now, in a moment 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Luka said: What's with this fan base is that they turn on the radio and listen to the circle jerk and then they come on a message board to regurgitate all of the talking points. The bottom line is we signed Palmer, Shenault, drafted a kid, have Samuel that may finally be healthy this year and brought Moore in to kick the tires. Beane has historically spent a ton of capital on addressing the wide receiver room. This offseason hasn't been any different. I guess my question is, who was the can't miss prospect at wide receiver that the Bills had a realistic opportunity to draft? I don't think it was a "can't miss prospect" but I get the feeling they were hitching their wagon to Bond and then the stuff broke and that went up in smoke. Either way, I don't think they had a chance to get anyone that would have been a major contributor this year where they were positioned in the draft. All the guys they drafted this year (first 4 picks anyways) will likely see a decent amount of snaps this year with how they rotate the dline and with the suspension they have. Quote
BillsVet Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Cray51 said: What's funny, is the Bills signed Leonard Floyd who was a solid player in June of 2023... And signed Ty Johnson in August of 2023... So the idea from the other poster that you can't find key players is funny. Both those guys were solid players for the Bills. Ty Johnson? A 3rd down back, aka the easiest position to find in UFA and a part time one at that is proof positive? Sure dude. You got me on Leonard Floyd...1 player in the last 8 seasons who came in and produced some. Although, he was semi-invisible after the mid-way point of the season. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: All Beane did was heighten the concern fans have about not having a good enough WR core. He amplified that narrative. Nobody's talking about TJ Edwards right now. Lol. They werent talking about TJ SANDERS at all before that anyways. Nothing to lose. Quote
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