Alphadawg7 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Beane was 100% spot on, this was one of my favorite Beane moments of his tenure...hats off to him, loved this. 4 5 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said: Why does everyone have to pick a side like this and get so crazy. Probably because none of the staff personalities would make a hair on Murphy's or Felser's ass, if you look back to the Monday evening radio show on WBEN AM. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: You assumed he needed to be pressured to leave the pocket? What does it look like without him? Maybe with Sam Darnold? You think it's a top 10 unit? Oh please say yes.....🤣 I didn't assume anything. And I certainly didn't make up exaggerated stats to try to prove a point. Are you seriously asking what the team would look like without our franchise QB? What would any team be like without their franchise QB? Best offensive weapons in the AFC is the Bengals. Could Sam Darnold with Tee/Chase have lead a top 10 unit? Oh please say yes. 1 1 Quote
Steptide Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Heard a bit of it. Most animated I've ever heard beane. I think the wr issue is the fact that we saw what Allen could do with beasley, Diggs and Davis. I get beanes argument, they were the top offense in the nfl last year, however, betting on that again I think is a little ignorant Imo. The bills still don't have a true number 1, and that might ok, time will tell, but betting on Coleman and kinkaid and jacobs is a bit risky. Just my 2 cents Quote
MainEvent Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago lol made it on espn top headlines https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44901919/bills-gm-gets-testy-radio-hosts-nfl-draft-criticism Quote
dma0034 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I didn't listen to the interview but if people are suggesting that because Allen is elite that the focus should be on the Defense then you are entirely wrong. The Bills have spent numerous picks on Defense that have resulted in the lackluster Defense the Bills have now. If you focus on the Offense and make your strength stronger you can create an unstoppable Offense with Allen. I look at the Chiefs with Hill/Kelce and just their ability to score 30+ in every playoff game and put pressure on their opponents Offense to keep up. During the regular season this happens but when the playoffs come you saw an Offense that struggled against the Ravens and had a chance to go up 2 scores late against the Chiefs and failed. The Bills Offense needs to be an elite WR that allows Allen to utilize his other targets and legs. Instead teams can go man and spy Allen and focus on stopping the run game. 1 1 Quote
KentuckyBillsFan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 22 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: But his argument is going to be that they used a first on Kincaid, a 2nd on a guard, a 2nd on Coleman, a first on Diggs etc. A ton of money on Allen, Palmer, Shakir, Knox and Samuel and a ton of money on the offensive line. The players they have on the offensive side of the ball have a ton of unrealized upside. Drafting Troy Horton is not making this a Super bowl team. The defense was God awful and slow and had zero upside. He changed all that with 1 draft. I am a Beane hater. I am on his side on this one. I dk I just have very little faith in this regime to draft true impact players on either side of the ball because they've pretty much failed to do so since they picked Josh Allen. Frankly, I'm tired of this regime and wish we would go a different direction but I know that's not happening so it is what it is. 1 1 Quote
Logic Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) I've been one of the loudest "we need more WRs" voices the past couple seasons, but I respected Beane's demeanor and insistence here. It was certainly not his typical disposition on display. I think the WR questions in the post-draft presser kinda caught him off guard, and then he happened to tune into the WGR show today right at the point where they were harping on the WR thing, and he just said "enough is enough". I bet if you gave him 10 minutes to take a deep breath and think about it before he want on air, he would've handled it a little bit differently. But...these guys are human, and I don't blame him for speaking the way he did. It also wasn't as severe as people are saying. Mostly I think people are just over-reacting to him using the word "bitching". I can't argue much with what Beane said specifically: He can understand why people asked the WR question BEFORE last season, but after scoring more points than any other team in the NFL last season, the fan angst about WRs seems a bit misplaced. I also thought Beane's recent statement that it wasn't the offense letting them down in the playoffs, it was the defense (well, he didn't say the latter part, but it was implied) was on point. I want another WR, too, but the fan angst about WRs HAS gotten out of hand in my opinion. You can tell the hosts were caught off guard and were not expecting any pushback. The way they went to commercial after the segment: "We're not playing fantasy football, and we're not here to be belittled, either". Yikes. Edited 8 hours ago by Logic 3 Quote
90sBills Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, Krakensabres said: KC didn’t beat us because were lacking an additional wide receiver… They beat us because our defense was a sieve and our CB couldn’t keep up with them or line get to them . Look how they performed against every other team in the playoffs except us. The defense was the problem, not the offense. I thought they beat us because our offense had the ball with a chance to win (both times in the last two years) and couldn’t score. Could’ve used a great wr threat on those drives. 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, MainEvent said: lol made it on espn top headlines https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44901919/bills-gm-gets-testy-radio-hosts-nfl-draft-criticism Jeremy and Stinky Joe are famous!!! Quote
Mikie2times Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I didn't assume anything. And I certainly didn't make up exaggerated stats to try to prove a point. Are you seriously asking what the team would look like without our franchise QB? What would any team be like without their franchise QB? Best offensive weapons in the AFC is the Bengals. Could Sam Darnold with Tee/Chase have lead a top 10 unit? Oh please say yes. Welp, given the Vikings produced a top 10 offense with him last year and the Bengals averaged 23 points a game with JAKE BROWNING in 2023. I would say it's a pretty obvious yes. Quote
transient Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 29 minutes ago, MWK said: Did the defense drop the ball on the last drive? Not saying the defense isn't the main problem, but come on. No, the defense gave up 12 yards on a 3rd and 7 on the last drive when they could have had one more chance with the ball instead of watching KC run out the clock. 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: Allen is not a general manager and how many games did Allen have to win with super human plays? Being that we were 3rd in point differential, I would say our team won a lot of games. I don't think we were +157 on super human plays. 3 hours ago, Mikie2times said: Welp, given the Vikings produced a top 10 offense with him last year and the Bengals averaged 23 points a game with JAKE BROWNING in 2023. I would say it's a pretty obvious yes. https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team Awesome. The Bengals were 10th in offensive production last year with Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow and Sam Darnold are at the same level. We scored 22.4 points per game with Tyrod Taylor in 2017 and our top WR's were Deonte Thompson, Charles Clay and Zay Jones. So that Jake Browning stat is pretty impressive huh? .6 ppg less with that talent level difference lol. Edited 5 hours ago by Royale with Cheese 2 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Also a fact: Buffalo does not often place premium value on the WGR opinions. 😁 Does Sullivan's shirt say 'HEDONIST'? * 😁 Nor should they. Here's the thing that is said in this message board over and over. John Murphy- homer Tasker- Homer Brown- Homer Sal- Homer All team guys that will never critique the team therefore make it a hard listen. Now Jeremy and Joe have some critiques that have been shared by a large amount of Bills fans and all a sudden they're Bush league? Seems a little two faced on the part of some fans. ( not implying you ) there's no right or wrong here when it comes to team needs and how they fill them. It's philosophy. 1 Quote
MainEvent Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Let’s be honest, Allen covers for a lot of the DEF shortcomings. If the DEF was better he wouldn’t have to do the ***** he does and still come up short. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago One more thing...I thought after Beane hopped off, Jeremy and Joe (especially Jeremy) got childish, butt hurt, and classless. Not a shock from what I know of them, but that was pretty weak after Beane crushed his segment and then left to where he couldn't respond to their nonsense. And the overwhelming sentiment is pro Beane on this, most applauding how he handled it, and raving about it really. So thats an even worse look for the butt hurt Jeremy to end it the way he did once Beane was gone. 1 1 1 1 Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Beane DESTROYED Jeremy and Jeremy deserved it.. then looked/sounded like a child. HORRIBLE look for Jeremy. 1 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Being that we were 3rd in point differential, I would say our team won a lot of game. I don't think we were +157 on super human plays. https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team Awesome. The Bengals were 10th in offensive production last year with Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow and Sam Darnold are at the same level. We scored 22.4 points per game with Tyrod Taylor in 2017 and our top WR's were Deonte Thompson, Charles Clay and Zay Jones. So that Jake Browning stat is pretty impressive huh? .6 ppg less with that talent level difference lol. are you really trying to argue that we have even a third of the weapons the Bengals do? He was a back up QB that came in and nearly led them to the playoffs. You're talking about Tyrod Taylor? Get a grip man. Quote
Mark80 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, RkFast said: I feel he should have went harder after Beane there. That was the time. Yeah, because Jeremy White knows more about running a successful football team than Brandon Beane. Yeah, OK. 1 Quote
Draconator Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 11 minutes ago, 90sBills said: I thought they beat us because our offense had the ball with a chance to win (both times in the last two years) and couldn’t score. Could’ve used a great wr threat on those drives. And as I said before, the Offense should have never been in that position in the first place. 2 1 Quote
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