Brandon Beane on WGR

[Victory Formation]

This was not a great draft for WR, so why take one? This draft was deep at DL and CB, which is why Beane drafted the way he did.

 

Also we also had one of the best offenses in the league last year and our defense sucked, so once again, why not retool our D?

 

This was one of Beane’s/McD’s better drafts.. I give them a solid A.

[LEBills]

6 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

And how many Supetbowls did Tom Brady win in New England?

He was there 20 years and won 6 and won 1 in 3 years as a 40 year old in Tampa

[major]

9 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

Today’s appearance began with the GR boys discussion of the lack of attention at the WR position in the recently completed draft.  Apparently, Beane was listening prior to his segment and suggested that the team had PLENTY at WR and this isn’t “Madden” … uncharacteristic for the usually unflappable Beane … entertaining radio fo a change 😂

When someone gets defensive like Beane did, it means there is a shred of truth in what he is hearing and he is pushing back. People do this all the time when confronted with things in life. When you get defensive there is a reason 

[PromoTheRobot]

14 hours ago, Victory Formation said:

This was not a great draft for WR, so why take one? This draft was deep at DL and CB, which is why Beane drafted the way he did.

 

Also we also had one of the best offenses in the league last year and our defense sucked, so once again, why not retool our D?

 

This was one of Beane’s/McD’s better drafts.. I give them a solid A.

 

14 hours ago, major said:

When someone gets defensive like Beane did, it means there is a shred of truth in what he is hearing and he is pushing back. People do this all the time when confronted with things in life. When you get defensive there is a reason 

 

Lol, no. It also means you're sick and tired of clowns telling you how to do your job. 

Edited 8 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[boyst]

So for those unaware, on Sirius satellite radio and NFL channel being said that before the interview began he was briefed by the bills PR guy who handles media relations. Immediate team warned him at wgr has not been sympathetic nor generous to the bills organization, criticizing the lack of wide receivers and being the buffoons that they are. 

 

Serious love what you did, and said that's how you handle the media who doesn't want to have open communications and just push a narrative. 

 

Wgr is full of a bunch of fecks. It was proven when they went after araiza with pitchforks.

Edited 20 hours ago by boyst
Grieved autocorrect. Should be briefed

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, boyst said:

So for those unaware, on Sirius satellite radio and NFL channel being said that before the interview began he was grieved by the bills PR guy who handles media relations. Immediate team warned him at wgr has not been sympathetic nor generous to the bills organization, criticizing the lack of wide receivers and being the buffoons that they are. 

 

Serious love what you did, and said that's how you handle the media who doesn't want to have open communications and just push a narrative. 

 

Wgr is full of a bunch of fecks. It was proven when they went after araiza with pitchforks.

 

After three months of mock drafts, everyone is convinced they are NFL GMs. 

[CA OC Bills Fan]

2 minutes ago, major said:

When someone gets defensive like Beane did, it means there is a shred of truth in what he is hearing and he is pushing back. People do this all the time when confronted with things in life. When you get defensive there is a reason 

I haven't heard the interview yet, likely will listen tonight. But, while what you say is often true, I wouldn't make the statement as an absolute like you did. And, was he defensive or did he just lash out at the question? I'm sure in many ways it's the same thing, but not always. I was at dinner with a coworker last Thursday. He asked me a question that I felt I answered twice already and I was pretty sure he was trying to get me going. I lashed out big time on him at dinner. I didn't believe there was a "shred of truth" in what he was implying, but I was really sick and tired of him asking the same question in what seemed to me an accusing way again and again. My (over) reaction was intended to get him to shut the f up about the subject and move on. I suspect Beane is sick of answering the question plus, as he has said before, the Bills aren't playing any games in April. If in September we have the same WR corps and it's not good enough and we lose games because of it, then it's time to complain.

[BullBuchanan]

9 hours ago, RkFast said:

White and Joe HAVE TO call him out on the WR thing NOW!!!!! If they dont, Ill lose a ton of respect for them.

 

9 hours ago, RkFast said:

Jeremy White bases his whole radio personna on a "WR TRAIN" and when the topic comes up direct with the GM, he folds.  THAT was his opportunity to speak direct to the GM about the fact this WR room is substandard compared to virtually every other top team in the league. And he whiffed.  This is what happens when you have a press corps thats a social club full of fanboys/girls. Jeremy doesnt want to lose access to the club room with the good sushi, I guess.

They did call him out and they lost the argument. They had no reasonable reponse to Beane's rebuttal that they had the number #1 scoring offense in the league with the room he built.

I happen to think there is one, but they sure didn't have it.

What's yours?

[Victory Formation]

18 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

 

Lol, no. It also mean you're sick and tired of clowns telling you how to do your job. 

What good is it if we take a WR in RD4 and he doesn’t make the roster?

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, Victory Formation said:

What good is it if we take a WR in RD4 and he doesn’t make the roster?

 

Or is... roughly graded similarly to the guy we took in the 7th.  Or the people already on the PS from a year ago.  

[Alphadawg7]

3 hours ago, Steptide said:

I assume they're expecting Coleman to make a big jump and kincaid to have a big role. Coleman Imo is 50/50 to be any better than last year. Kincaid hasent been a factor to this point. Hopefully he turns it on this season, I know he had the injury last year, and hopefully that's the major reason for his lack of production. I trust beane and McDermott to know what they're doing, it's not like this team hasent been successful, but not having a true number 1 makes me a bit nervous.

 

I think the biggest thing with Coleman is how much better he was looking before the injury and then how he was a bit lost in his role after time away coming back from injury.  I would say its more probable the guy we saw pre-injury was more in line of what to expect or better this year.  He admitted he didn't know how to be or fit in coming back after being out a while and his role seemingly a little different with how the offense was then clicking.  And on one hand you are glad to see a young player be unselfish, and on the other he needs to find ways to get back involved and that comes with experience too.  

 

Best thing about him is that Allen has said Keon has been hitting him up all offseason on getting better, more on the same page, etc all offseason...so I think what we saw pre-injury or better is more in line of what we will see this year.  

 

Kincaid being healthy will I think lead to more of the breakout we expected last year when he essential played hurt most the season and battled a nagging knee.

 

3 hours ago, Steptide said:

 

Having said all that, the defense on paper looks nasty. Could be the best defense since McDermott got here, and that would be huge. We may not need the offense to put up 30 points a game if the defense is that good. Time will tell

 

This is key IMO to really take the pressure off of Allen...give him a defense where the offense isn't going to always need to be perfect to have a chance to win those tough postseason games.  
  

 

[Nephilim17]

Not gonna read through almost 30 pages on this but funny to see it blow up in sports media everywhere.

I know it's not popular but like @Coach Tuesday I would not be surprised to see Beane apologize shortly. Even if he doesn't mean it, just for optics. I don't think the Bills organization likes the attention this has gotten. 

[Einstein]

6 hours ago, Cray51 said:

Allen bailing every play is a very broad generalization of the offense.  Allen has a very very good oline in front of him and our skill players aren’t trash, they are league average 

 

Mikie is an Allen hater. Dont bother 

[major]

27 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

 

Lol, no. It also mean you're sick and tired of clowns telling you how to do your job. 

Remember that people in the 300 sections of life can often see things that we can’t or don’t want to see. We all have blind spots in our jobs and lives. The question is: what do we do when people point out those blind spots? Get defensive or listen to see if they are telling the truth (and if they are telling even a shred of truth it’s up to us to change). It’s up to Beane if he listens or not 

[BigDingus]

9 hours ago, Tony P said:

I love the way BB came into the conversation. Seems like the "WR train" talk on 'gr is a constant topic. Bad radio imo. WR is not the reason the Bills have not advanced in the playoffs. The "d" has come up small year after year. I was hoping that the Bills focused heavily on strengthening that side of the ball in this draft.

 

Eagles showed the way.

 

Just because we've managed to hang in the playoffs with a poor WR room, doesn't mean they didn't contribute to us losing games.

 

Allen & the offense had the ball in their hands with a chance to go ahead against KC the last 2 times we met, and both times they failed. The D never looks great, regardless of who's back there. It's McDermott's unit, so no matter what tools you give him, the end result is always the same.

 

So in that situation, why do we keep investing so much in a defense that's never going to look drastically improved come playoff time? The only hope we have is to bolster the unit lead by our best player, but we keep refusing to do that. In 20 years, will you look back & think "we definitely gave Allen the best tools to succeed" or will you think "damn, we wasted a lot of his prime years investing so much draft capital on a defense that never changed?"

 

Hell, when we finally got Allen a good run game for the first time in his career, with a RB that tied for most rushing TDs in the league, we extend everybody BUT him because "he's just a RB." You know, the same RB who was our most successful player against the Chiefs, only for us to stop feeding him the ball & start trying to go through the air.

 

But you can't really do that when your receiving weapons are what they are! All the people saying "should've given it to Cook!" are now saying "don't pay him, trade Cook!"

 

So good luck with the offense once that happens. Weak WR group, underwhelming TEs, and alienating your best weapon because you want to pay him less than what Groot got LAST year (despite Cook being significantly more important to our success than Groot ever was)... all while drafting almost entirely defense.

 

How'd it work out when we used a 1st on Rousseau & a 2nd on Boogie back to back? How many Pro Bowl caliber seasons has 1st round pick Ed Oliver had? Surely, our 1st round CB came in clutch against KC last year. Wait, he got traded to the Cowboys for scraps? Giving a truckload of money to Von Miller sure worked out though, just as our rotation of D-linemen has.

 

It's like once these guys figured out Josh Allen was actually going to pan out, they decided they no longer needed to put much effort into that side of the ball. They signed Diggs, saw Allen flourish, then were content with signing old vets & hand-me-down players that couldn't breakout on other teams.

 

We could point to Kincaid & Coleman as 2 attempts to rectify that, but neither have shown they're capable of living up to expectations yet, so the priority should be to keep going! The D shouldn't need as much help as it does, especially given how many people McD & Beane have signed & extended. They clearly like who they have well enough to sign them to extensions & pay raises.

 

If there's one thing Beane & McDermott do well is they find value in the later rounds of the draft, then coach them up into solid starters. But they have yet to draft a single star player in the first 2 rounds outside of Allen. The closest they got was Cook, and even then he's "just a RB," which apparently means "easily replaceable."

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

Not gonna read through almost 30 pages on this but funny to see it blow up in sports media everywhere.

I know it's not popular but like @Coach Tuesday I would not be surprised to see Beane apologize shortly. Even if he doesn't mean it, just for optics. I don't think the Bills organization likes the attention this has gotten. 

 

I would.  It's April, none of this will mean anything come September.

If these morning jocks want to escalate it, it's up to them.  Beane said his piece.

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, major said:

Remember that people in the 300 sections of life can often see things that we can’t or don’t want to see. We all have blind spots in our jobs and lives. The question is: what do we do when people point out those blind spots? Get defensive or listen to see if they are telling the truth (and if they are telling even a shred of truth it’s up to us to change). It’s up to Beane if he listens or not 

 

Here's another wise quote, from Marv Levy I believe: "If you start listening to the fans, you'll be sitting with them...in the 300's."

[DaVinci]

 

[eball]

55 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said:

Samuel signing was a bust

 

Samuel was arguably our best receiver in the playoffs.

 

[finn]

28 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

They did call him out and they lost the argument. They had no reasonable reponse to Beane's rebuttal that they had the number #1 scoring offense in the league with the room he built.

I happen to think there is one, but they sure didn't have it.

What's yours?

I would have challenged Beane's premise. He's saying that since the offense was effective last year, it will be effective this year with the same players returning, plus Palmer. But he's assuming that Allen will have another MVP year, that he and Brady won't miss one of their most clutch players in Mack Hollins, and that other teams won't be better prepared to stop what the Bills did well. Optimistic posters here add that Kincaid and Coleman will be better. (Which reminds me of the annual cry, "This is the year Elam will show up!)

 

In short, Beane is gambling. You can make an argument he had no choice with the defense so badly needing help. But he's leaving Allen and Brady with essentially the same JV squad of wide receivers and hoping that lightning will strike twice. 

 

All that said, I do think Allen will lift this squad, again. But he'll win despite his receivers (and Beane), not because of them.