DrDawkinstein Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Julio Hopkins said: It's really eye opening that the GM of a professional football team doesn't understand what complimentary football or basic strategy is. I think "dont be the ONLY team that let the Chiefs offense score 30 points" is a good basic strategy. Complimentary football means having a Defense that can get a stop instead of making your QB save the day at the end of the game. 1 2 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 28 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: Beane doesn't need to apologize one bit. He is a GM, the guy who makes the tough decisions, not some hindsight radio personality. Good for him! This is not to argue or anything. I listen to the show daily on my drive to work. I honestly don't see anything they said as hindsight. They have been very proactive in their views of getting WR talent in the building. I believe what they have said has merit as I also believe what Bean said has merit. Tough conversations are fine to have. Edited 21 hours ago by Goin Breakdown 1 Quote
Brandon Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, Billyhouseman said: I think it's alarming that 2 shock jocks got under BEANES skin.... He's got to be bigger than that For him to come out immediately like that makes me wonder about the WR discussion inside the FO and whether there's been some heated arguments there, too. I just don't see any reason to do that, especially when you're immediately bringing in a significant FA WR for a visit. Edited 21 hours ago by Brandon 1 1 Quote
nuklz2594 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago chiefs have better coaching. 13 seconds....our defense and special teams, poor time management and not playing to lose coaching is the issue. keep your foot on the gas and have a have a good defense with competent coaching will fix everything 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Andrew Son said: CHOO CHOO!!! 2 Quote
US Egg Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: I honestly don't see anything they said as hindsight. I see everything they say as hindsight. But that’s me. WGR hosts got to be as giddy as school girls over this. Edited 21 hours ago by US Egg 1 Quote
Turbo44 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Pete said: The POINT is that Coleman, Samuels, Dalton, and Palmer had little to do with the Bills being the highest scoring team in 2024. Amari and Mack played a big part in Bills scoring. And they are gone. MVP Josh was an alchemist. To just assume that Coleman can learn to beat press coverage, that Dalton plays better than Knox, that Samuels can stay healthy, that Palmer steps up, that a stud fifth WR magically appears, and that Shakir stays healthy- that’s a lot of assumptions! It is a thin line between hope and folly. People think just because we led the league in scoring, we will again. Well many opposing teams have their sites on Bills, have studied Bill Offense,they are building game plans against us. But we were so good on offense last year, we don’t need to evolve. We don’t to add any talent- give all to the D. Cooper had a lot to do with Buffalo’s scoring. How does 20 catches for 297 yards and 2 td ever relate to a lot? Mack Collins 31 catches for 378 and 5 tds - different name same as above Quote
RobbRiddick Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said: We drafted a 340 pound DT and the words "slim down" did not come out of Beane's mouth. For that, he deserves nothing but thanks and praise! Chances are quite good, given this staff's track record with DBs, that one or more of the CBs drafted will turn out to be very good. That is huge, because you have cost control for a few years at a premium position. Beane would be annoyed with me as a host because the entire segment would be a hype session for the big DT! LOL The big guy has me intrigued. I can only go by stuff I watch and read and listen to post draft but I've seen a lot of stuff today from people saying this guy was the steal of the draft. I know you can find those articles about lots of players but it's interesting how he is so polarizing. Lots of people see him as having amazing potential to be a game wrecker and others view him as a wasted pick. I'm looking forward to seeing him play Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Brandon said: For him to come out immediately like that makes me wonder about the WR discussion inside the FO and whether there's been some heated arguments there, too. Probably not heated arguments when Beane already said there were WRs they liked but they were off the board by the time the Bills picked. 1 Quote
Rousseauisnoschmo Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 4 hours ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Everyone saying that we have the highest scoring offense, points per game, ect. Yes, we do but our last two seasons have ended with 17 having the ball in his hands with a chance to win and nobody could get open and/or dropped passes. Beane pointing out the obvious grand slam he hit drafting Allen and ignoring the many high pick whiffs he's had recently I think was wrong. Maybe we dont need 17 at the end with the ball in his hands if the defense steps up with a turnover or critical sack to close the game out. Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Brandon said: For him to come out immediately like that makes me wonder about the WR discussion inside the FO and whether there's been some heated arguments there, too. I mean for example, hypothetically of course, if I'm Joe Brady and I just invested hundreds of hours grinding film on WR prospects and meeting with them and advocating for them - all for nothing, because hey, idiots, we're set at WR don't you know - maybe I'd rather have known that in advance so I could spend more time with my family? Few things in life are worse than having your bosses waste your time. 1 1 1 Quote
KentuckyBillsFan Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago *whispers into the mic* Our defensive scheme has been just as big if not a bigger issue than our defensive personnel 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I mean for example, hypothetically of course, if I'm Joe Brady and I just invested hundreds of hours grinding film on WR prospects and meeting with them and advocating for them - all for nothing, because hey, idiots, we're set at WR don't you know - maybe I'd rather have known that in advance so I could spend more time with my family? Few things in life are worse than having your bosses waste your time. Hypothetically, that's not what happens, and that didnt happen. Hypothetically. Coordinators and coaches dont grind tape on college guys and tell the GM who to draft. Scouts do. And those scouts get paid the same whether the team picks any of their guys or not. That's the role they signed up for and know going into it. They might bring in a coordinator to advise on "which player of these 2 or 3 would you prefer to have", and take that as a PIECE of data that goes into their draft board. But Brady hasnt wasted any time looking at WRs this offseason. Edited 21 hours ago by DrDawkinstein 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Yes, and thats the real story here; how defensive Beane was. Beane is an excellent speaker and is generally great with the media. This interview is really unlike him. Especially as that was an easy question to dance around. All he had to say is something about liking what we have at WR and valuing other players more at the picks they had. "We would have loved to have gotten Josh more weapons but we're happy with the way the draft fell to us." "We're really excited for Prather". This isn't hard. I'm surprised he chose to go after them. I felt he was trying to go to bat for Kincaid and Coleman who were his first player selected in consecutive years, as well as his free agent signing in Palmer and Samuel. So in his mind, he’s already addressed the WR position. If you believe in those players, the way that Beane apparently does, his argument makes sense. Why would he spent a high pick on a WR that’s going to be the 4th or 5th receiving option, when there are other areas of need and better value? Of course, if Kincaid, Coleman, and Samuel have the same kind of season as last year, this argument falls apart and fans are completely justified. So a lot is riding on Coleman, Kincaid, Samuel and even Palmer. 1 1 Quote
Brandon Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Probably not heated arguments when Beane already said there were WRs they liked but they were off the board by the time the Bills picked. I just can't see the reason to go off on a couple of radio guys regarding the WR position and then turn right around and bring in a guy who is 25 and has 120 catches over the last two years. It's basically an admission that they need some help there. Edited 21 hours ago by Brandon Quote
Billl Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: There is a finite amount of resources they can use and spend. This is true, but don’t you get dismissing returns at some point? I mean, Buffalo traded down in the first round last year to add a third round pick. They effectively sacrificed their options at a 1st round WR and used the pick they gained on D-Line. Then they drafted another D-Lineman later in the draft. Then they added 3 D-Linemen in Free Agency. Then they drafted 3 D-Lineman in this draft. Meanwhile, they added Josh Palmer in FA and drafted a WR with the 240th pick in the draft. Now I have no idea whether these moves were good, bad, or some combination of both, but that seems like less of a “finite resources” issue than a conscious decision to load up on one side at the expense of other positions. 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, US Egg said: I see everything they say as hindsight. But that’s me. I'm not a B/W kind of person. I think naturally it goes both ways on the radio. You're paid to talk for hours. Not everything said is going to be agreed upon by everyone. In this specific case they have been on the WR train for 2-3 years, so their view today is not hindsight IMO. I don't think they're wrong in wanting to have the best they can for Josh BUT Beane isn't wrong either for doing what he can with the picks he has. I don't truly think this was a make or break WR class. I don't blame Beane for not moving up to grab a dude. ( he already blew a 3rd for Cooper) but surely he believes Josh needs a little more help or Moore wouldn't be in for a visit. Anyway. This is a fun day and some fun conversation. I'm kinda happy this happened this morning. Quote
Jauronimo Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Rousseauisnoschmo said: Maybe we dont need 17 at the end with the ball in his hands if the defense steps up with a turnover or critical sack to close the game out. With his contract and cap hit, he needs to be a guy who wins games when he has the ball in his hands and the chance to take a lead with under 2 mins left. Quote
Never NEVER Give-up Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) Bean's point was Josh Allen's offense scores 30 PPG. Last year we dumped Diggs & Davis and people picked us to come in 4th in the AFCE. But everyone was surprised by Hollins, Keon had a good 1st half, Cooper came in and took some pressure off, Shakir is rock steady & reliable, Samuel got better as the season progressed and Kincaid was hurting and not as effective. THIS YEAR Bean is thinking they'll be better, thinking improved play from Kincaid, Coleman, Samuel; a positive injection from Palmer and continued steadiness from Shakir plus it's only April and Elijah Moore is in town, and other FAs are still available. But the overriding issue is the Bills score 30 with regularity and cannot stop their opponents when they need to - so they went Defense in this draft and hope that GOOD and young will translate into a Defense to match the Offense for the next 4-5 years. Edited 21 hours ago by Never NEVER Give-up Quote
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