Which position group is weakest today?

[Process]

It's safety and it's not close

[ddaryl]

1 hour ago, finn said:

I have no problems with a tub of goo at DT; I just think a guy who can stretch the field on key downs and stop defenses from cheating up would be more valuable, giving the short passing game and runners more room. He doesn't (didn't) need to be a fantastic, just good enough to pose a threat downfield, so a potentially bigger return on that fourth-round pick than Walker. 

 

 

Because we all know how much trouble the Bills had putting up 30 points a game.

[Pete]

2 hours ago, klos63 said:

We lose in the playoffs because of our defense,  not because of our WR.

It made perfect sense for Beane to draft how he did.  

We also led the league in scoring last season and we added Palmer,  and Coleman should be expected to improve on last season.

Dalton and Diggs have failed us in the playoffs 

[klos63]

Just now, Pete said:

Dalton and Diggs have failed us in the playoffs 

How about the defense? No issues there?

[Draconator]

Punter. Without someone who can flip ball position, it puts undue strain on the Defense to make consistent stops on a short field, and on offense to go 80 plus yards consistently to score. 

[boyst]

Linebacker is the sneaky answer. Bernard gets hurt we are screwed. Milano is likely to be a lessened factor. But behind those two starters you have a Dorian Williams who needs tp take a big step. Behind that trash

 

We have two starters who are small, injured riddled, and have overachieved. We have one backup who has a ceiling as a backup. 

 

2 glass linebackers, 1 limited backup, 3 trash cans. 

3 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Why are there two Safety slots in the poll?  
 

When Rapp is the best player in a position group that is your weakest position. 
 

The whole defense is in transition.  As many as 12 new players were added in the draft and free agency, headlined by Bosa, White, the two suspended DL, Hairston, Sanders and Jackson. Now add Carter, Ulofoshio (sp?), Solomon, Andreessen and Bishop and Beane has basically retooled nearly the entire defense.  Unless Hancock can become a starter, Beane has more work to do at Safety. 

We have standard depth at safety with Forrest, bishop, and the new guys + cam Lewis

 

At WR we have guys who have had experience, have backup #3 floors, with 2 of them #1 potential, and Shakir is who is borderline all pro.

 

At linebacker we have no depth and two broken starters. 

[GASabresIUFan]

4 minutes ago, boyst said:

Linebacker is the sneaky answer. Bernard gets hurt we are screwed. Milano is likely to be a lessened factor. But behind those two starters you have a Dorian Williams who needs tp take a big step. Behind that trash

 

We have two starters who are small, injured riddled, and have overachieved. We have one backup who has a ceiling as a backup. 

 

2 glass linebackers, 1 limited backup, 3 trash cans. 

We have standard depth at safety with Forrest, bishop, and the new guys + cam Lewis

 

At WR we have guys who have had experience, have backup #3 floors, with 2 of them #1 potential, and Shakir is who is borderline all pro.

 

At linebacker we have no depth and two broken starters. 

What? Yes Milano is on the downside of his career but Williams and Bernard aren’t.   
 

I agree the Spector needs to go, but we as fans don’t really know what we have or don’t have in Andreassen and Ulofoshio.  I will admit that I thought they grab at least one LB in the draft, but me can argue the Hoecht can play LB once he returns from suspension.  
 

Unlike Safety, the LB group has 3 good players as mentioned above.  Who is the good player at Safety?  There isn’t one.  

[todd]

5 hours ago, Pete said:

I believe it’s obvious

If your answer is safety, yes it is obvious.

5 hours ago, finn said:

Ongoing conversation in another thread, but I'll just agree with those who are bewildered by Beane's lack of urgency on wide receivers. Mahomes has Rice, Hollywood Brown, Worthy, and now Royals. Burrow has two studs in Chase and Higgins. Hurts has DeVonta and AJ Brown. Allen? Shakir, who has never had a 1000 yard season, Coleman, a slow possession receiver who wasn't even catching jump balls late last year, Palmer, who is supposed to be the second coming of Jerry Rice but who the receiver-starved Chargers happily let go, Samuels, who we keep making excuses for, and a bunch of practice squad level players. Color me underwhelmed. 

 

Meanwhile, he continues to dump--DUMP--resources into the defensive line. Lovely to have, what, four big investments in the DT position, but at the expense of mediocrity at another key position? Maybe he's planning to trade for Pickens or someone. But I doubt it. As others have said, he's probably thinking, "Hey, Allen and the running game did it all last year, so let's assume they'll be able to do the same again this year. What could go wrong?"

 

Let's watch Jalen Royals, whom he could have picked instead of Walker. I really, really hope I'm wrong, but I have a feeling it's not going to be pretty. 

 

 

 

Wow. What was the Bills' offensive ranking last year? Hmmm. How many points per game allowed? Hmmm. Your argument doesn't hold up. Look where the team ranked on defense and stopping the run. Oh, and 3rd down! That's the problem. Glad Beane doesn't read some of the dumbass stuff people write here.

[Alphadawg7]

11 hours ago, Pete said:

I believe it’s obvious

 

Cute you put safety twice to try and divide the votes to make WR stand out more.  

 

I wonder what fan narrative is the weakest right now?  I think its obvious

Edited 22 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[Draconator]

You forgot to add Quarterback. If the unthinkable happens, and Josh is hurt for an extended period of time, no body is going to worry about what wide receiver we should have. 

[todd]

3 hours ago, finn said:

I have no problems with a tub of goo at DT; I just think a guy who can stretch the field on key downs and stop defenses from cheating up would be more valuable, giving the short passing game and runners more room. He doesn't (didn't) need to be a fantastic, just good enough to pose a threat downfield, so a potentially bigger return on that fourth-round pick than Walker. 

 

So a 4th round rookie WR was going to start in 2025 and quickly become the #1 WR and solve all our problems? LOL!

 

The offseason isn't over. If you want to improve you WR room you don't do it by grabbing a mid-round WR and calling him a savior. That's just dumb. 

 

There are a bunch of FA WRs that are speedy remaining. Take a breath.

[gonzo1105]

The answer is safety until proven otherwise 

[finn]

27 minutes ago, todd said:

 

So a 4th round rookie WR was going to start in 2025 and quickly become the #1 WR and solve all our problems? LOL!

 

The offseason isn't over. If you want to improve you WR room you don't do it by grabbing a mid-round WR and calling him a savior. That's just dumb. 

 

There are a bunch of FA WRs that are speedy remaining. Take a breath.

"Dumb" is pretty strong language, bub, especially from someone with obvious reading problems. No need to apologize. We all have moments of utter stupidity. 

[dgrochester55]

4 hours ago, finn said:

Ah, the straw man argument is not dead. Did I say or imply that Coleman is beyond all hope or that not picking Royals means an early playoff exit for the Bills? If you want to respond, respond to the points I made, not to fictions. Again, I'm saying Royals would have been a more valuable pick than Walker because Allen can't do it alone; meanwhile, they're stacked at DT. Do you disagree?

 

Yes.

Edited yesterday at 05:37 PM by dgrochester55

[dpberr]

Linebacker.  It's their most fragile unit on the team, and the Bills defense relies on this unit a lot.  

 

You have to assume one or more of the top three backers - Bernard, Milano, Williams - will be dinged up coming out of training camp.  It's a unit that's never 100% strength for very long it seems.  

 

While Williams filled in great for Milano, the Bills don't have that Plan 1B yet for Bernard.  

[BuffaloMatt]

We may have lost our TD leading WR to the putzriots. RIP Mack. So someone else will have to be the target just like when Mack showed up.  Oh well. Still will average 30 points a game. 

[nedboy7]

Someone please do a poll.  How many days in a row can you complain about the same thing.  I would do it but I'm busy. 

 

BTW the answer is safety.  The poll is for the WR group.  Carry on. 

Edited yesterday at 06:17 PM by nedboy7

[GASabresIUFan]

Safety 30 - WR 29

[boyst]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

What? Yes Milano is on the downside of his career but Williams and Bernard aren’t.   
 

I agree the Spector needs to go, but we as fans don’t really know what we have or don’t have in Andreassen and Ulofoshio.  I will admit that I thought they grab at least one LB in the draft, but me can argue the Hoecht can play LB once he returns from suspension.  
 

Unlike Safety, the LB group has 3 good players as mentioned above.  Who is the good player at Safety?  There isn’t one.  

Williams ceiling is a backup. Because we have backups like Spector, Andreesson, and Ulofshio on the roster makes us severely lack judgement on the roster for backups. 

Williams as a starter is possible but it should not be. not in this system. the defense we run through mcd's system is very dependent on top tier LB's. it's why it performed so well with Keuchly and Davis in Carolina. Thomas Davis was so underrated, at that. Just like Bernard is and Milano was. But this is also because the plays get funneled to our LB's. the big plays and action is right at their feet by design. if they're not capable of performing at a high level they're left spinning, like spector.

 

i think spector is a good linebacker. i think he should be traded to a team like baltmimore.

 

if we go down 1 linebacker we are screwed considering we play 2 linebackers most of the time it doesn't seem like a big deal because we have 3... but when we need to run 3 LB's we won't have a plan or method to do so.

[frostbitmic]

Special Teams by far.