Atlanta Falcons’ DC’s kid pranked Shedeur

[DrDawkinstein]

2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Jeff Ulbrich's kid's statement.  Good lord.  They're acting like they accidentally killed his dog or something.

 

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

seriously.  It was a prank call.  A little perspective needed.  

 

 

The issue isnt really the prank call. The issue is data security, or lack there of. The fact that someone was able to access Dad's device and get a phone number off of it opens the door to all sorts of security and responsibility questions.

 

Over my 25 years in the tech world, we've fired plenty of people for less/similar.

 

Kid is living the comfy life off of dad's million dollar pro coaching career, and he almost flushed it all over... tiktok clout.

 

Plus, for as much heat as Shedeur took this weekend, he's a 21 year old getting drafted into the NFL. This "kid" is a 21 yr old making prank calls from his parent's basement. Pathetic for a grown adult young man.

[DrDawkinstein]

44 minutes ago, Success said:

This really ticked me off - I thought it was incredibly mean spirited.

 

But, I'm inclined not to judge to harshly.  I wouldn't want to be judged by my worst stuff when I was in my 20's.  

 

 

You got the first part right.

 

Gen Z and their search for social media clout has "pranks" all wrong.

 

A good prank, a real prank, is one where all parties are laughing in the end.

 

Most of this social media "it's just a prank, bro" bs is mean-spirited punching down, or often times just straight up physical assault.

[GunnerBill]

42 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

It was completely of his (and his old man's) making.  It was predictable and therefore avoidable.  Every decision they made before the draft sealed his fate.

 

Deion really screwed his son over...

 

I think there are a lot of people in the NFL who really don't look Deion and unfortunately Shedeur paid for some of that. He isn't blameless himself, sure.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

I think there are a lot of people in the NFL who really don't look Deion and unfortunately Shedeur paid for some of that. He isn't blameless himself, sure.

 

I'm not sure it gets that deep. It might, I dont know. But from what I heard about Shedeur's predraft interviews, and that he was far more interested in telling teams what HE thought about THEIR organization and how HE was going to change it for them, instead of listening to what they had to say about his playing and answering questions on the board, that's enough to make any prospect fall. He got too far ahead of himself and was acting like a franchise QB when he hadnt played a professional down yet.

 

That type of attitude, at the QB position, aint gonna go well.

 

Not much need for long-time grudges or drama past that.

[JerseyBills]

looking at the whole clip, that kid is soft as baby sh!t , I know Deon thinking that, the way he comes to his father after this "traumatic" event is so soft it's funny. 

[QB Bills]

A simple solution would be that you just don't allow teams to call a player before drafting him and let the official podium announcement be the way the guy finds out.

 

You'd also get an authentic reaction instead of the draftee and his family acting shocked when they already know what's about to happen.

[stevestojan]

This isn’t about the prank call, which was stupid and mean. 
 

This is about an NFL coach leaving this info unsecured. 

[Matt_In_NH]

Is your refrigerator running?

[nedboy7]

Prank the kid and take him to Guantanamo for a week. 

[somnus00]

2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said:

seriously.  It was a prank call.  A little perspective needed.  

Do you know the contract differences between a 2nd round pick and a 5th round pick? Imagine getting a believable prank call that you won a few million dollars.

 

I think that adds to the perspective, no?

[GunnerBill]

22 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'm not sure it gets that deep. It might, I dont know. But from what I heard about Shedeur's predraft interviews, and that he was far more interested in telling teams what HE thought about THEIR organization and how HE was going to change it for them, instead of listening to what they had to say about his playing and answering questions on the board, that's enough to make any prospect fall. He got too far ahead of himself and was acting like a franchise QB when he hadnt played a professional down yet.

 

That type of attitude, at the QB position, aint gonna go well.

 

Not much need for long-time grudges or drama past that.

 

I don't care if he told them all the coaches are orange frogs. There is no world in which Dillon Gabriel should be picked before him in a football related activity.

 

I get, the kid has an arrogance and it put people off. But you can't call yourself a true meritocracy and then pick some of the bums that went before him. And I say this as someone who doesn't even particularly rate him and didn't think his film belonged in the first round.

[boyst]

Where's the outrage for the countless other times this has happened? I know DeJean got a bunch of them last year, as was reported. But, it happens all the time.

 

The only thing to kerfuffle over is the data security the falcons have or don't have!

[NoSaint]

18 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

This isn’t about the prank call, which was stupid and mean. 
 

This is about an NFL coach leaving this info unsecured. 

meh. 
 

it wasn’t on the table at Starbucks 

 

at some point basically none of us are immaculate with physical data security within our homes.

 

it surely wasn’t ideal but it’s rarely perfect 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't care if he told them all the coaches are orange frogs. There is no world in which Dillon Gabriel should be picked before him in a football related activity.

 

I get, the kid has an arrogance and it put people off. But you can't call yourself a true meritocracy and then pick some of the bums that went before him. And I say this as someone who doesn't even particularly rate him and didn't think his film belonged in the first round.

 

Certainly fair points. There's just so much to it. Such a weird/interesting story.

[Ya Digg?]

45 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

You got the first part right.

 

Gen Z and their search for social media clout has "pranks" all wrong.

 

A good prank, a real prank, is one where all parties are laughing in the end.

 

Most of this social media "it's just a prank, bro" bs is mean-spirited punching down, or often times just straight up physical assault.

Yeah that’s a really stupid thing to do by this kid. You have now just embarrassed your dad and could potentially cost him his job, just so you could have something to put on TikTok. Seems like Shadeur took it in stride and hopefully for his dad’s sake Atlanta and the league don’t punish him any further (although they probably will) 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I don't care if he told them all the coaches are orange frogs. There is no world in which Dillon Gabriel should be picked before him in a football related activity.

 

I get, the kid has an arrogance and it put people off. But you can't call yourself a true meritocracy and then pick some of the bums that went before him. And I say this as someone who doesn't even particularly rate him and didn't think his film belonged in the first round.

Meritocracy doesn't reward people who push referees around unless they're a supreme talent, doesn't excuse domestic assault and rape charges for $$ and a premium draft trade, etc.

 

The NFL is a very tricky organization. I remember when every single team refused to draft a top tight end from Arkansas maybe because he may have had consensual relations with his underage niece when he was like 19 and she was 15. The guy never stood a chance but, like this case, I don't think the NFL tried to blackball him. Just everyone realized that there is only so much juice worth the squeeze.

[JohnNord]

2 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

I think the issue is that the call originated from an “in house” NFL “family member” and the potential optics of personal data breach.  The prank itself is secondary. It’s just a really, really bad look for the NFL. 
 

The shocking part is the kid outed himself online. He must be a real meathead. 
 

 

I’m not sure that the prank call was the Ulbrich kid.  I think he gave those students the number.  
 

As far as the apology, it came after the NFL already put out their statement naming him as the leak.  

[SirAndrew]

7 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

meh. 
 

it wasn’t on the table at Starbucks 

 

at some point basically none of us are immaculate with physical data security within our homes.

 

it surely wasn’t ideal but it’s rarely perfect 

Absolutely, I think a lot of people are overestimating how secure most people/organizations are with their data. The average person isn’t a tech nerd, and doesn’t even think about the stuff. We just happen to live in an era where that can have serious consequences. The prank wasn’t the greatest look, but at the end of the day this is just football. There’s a lot more important data out there. 

[SinceThe70s]

21 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

meh. 
 

it wasn’t on the table at Starbucks 

 

at some point basically none of us are immaculate with physical data security within our homes.

 

it surely wasn’t ideal but it’s rarely perfect 

 

Agreed, but the part that confounds me is that his son took the number. I'm torn reconciling feeling bad this happened to Ulbricht with the fact that he raised the kid.

[Aussie Joe]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

there is already enough dbaggery in this world....maybe we should stop

 

plus he is 21....not 13

exactly …people calling him a “kid” at 21… others his age are working and married ..