Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?

[YattaOkasan]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   A hundred posters on here have been crowing for a year about all the cap space and draft picks and the front office rebuilding this team this year…… and” Watch out” we will be a force to be reckoned with.

   I still only see Josh ( HOF) and Cook and Shakir ( Very good) as the only guys on O to brag about. Here come the comments about points scored. Followed by comments about not scoring on the last possession of the season the last two years as if it’s Josh’s fault😒.

    Hopefully Hairston and Jackson are hits but the rest of them?????

    I’m reading Top 5 D and not just statistically?

    All I see is more of the same. Wanna be wrong. Don’t think I am.

I brag about Spencer brown all the time. More than anyone but Josh. Dawkins quite a bit too. Those guys are so much fun. 
 

yes Josh has been bailing out the offense but the defense can’t directly be bailed out by Josh. Hence the investment. 

[NoSaint]

32 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said:

I brag about Spencer brown all the time. More than anyone but Josh. Dawkins quite a bit too. Those guys are so much fun. 
 

yes Josh has been bailing out the offense but the defense can’t directly be bailed out by Josh. Hence the investment. 

given Josh a monster wr and wat h the defense play with leads even more 

[Maine-iac]

1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

given Josh a monster wr and wat h the defense play with leads even more 

Tell me who the "monster wr" was that we passed up in the draft?

[chris heff]

3 hours ago, Pete said:

Why did we lose to Ravens?  
 

Why do we see the most man to man in the NFL?  And that’s with Josh ***** Allen.

 

Dont you agree separation was a major issue last season?

 

What did we do to fix it?

Don’t you get sick of Josh getting pummeled after 6 seconds and no one can get open?

Because they couldn’t stop the run.

[LittleSammy]

4 hours ago, Pete said:

So 24 teams have superior WR groups than Buffalo?  I will have to take a look at those teams.  Cowboys have better WR than us imo

 

 

 

Who is our 5th WR?

 

Who lines up outside?

I’ve been calling for WRs for the past 3 years.  Does Beane hate Josh Allen?

Brandon Beane says he didn't get your call of advice before the Draft and had to use his best judgment instead. As many others have stated, the games don't start until September. Let it play out.

[Kaenon]

I don't think we're that weak ...

Palmer is more WR2 than WR1, Shakir is one of the best YAC receivers in all of football, Keon showed some promise, but was limited by injuries (and speed), Samuel has got to be one of the better gadget WR4 out there, and then whoever WR5 will be. 

 

Kincaid, Knox, Cook and Ty Johnson handle a lot of catching volume respectively.

 

Would I have liked a WR this draft? Yes. Was I bummed about Royals to the Chiefs, yes - Horton a few picks before us, yes...but it's not all that bad. 

[SoTier]

7 hours ago, Pete said:

Who is our outside WRs?  Where are they?  Did Keon play so good that we can count on him to be WR2?  Is Palmer WR 1?  Can we count on Samuels to be healthy the entire season?  Who is our 5th WR?
 

Palmer 1

Keon 2

Shakir slot

Samuels 

 

Buffalo saw more man to man coverage last season, because no one respects our WR.  We have had FA and the draft to correct that, and Beane has done Jack *****.

 

its going to take another Ravens curb stomping to make Beane panic and make another Amari like trade.

 

It’s the emperors new clothes.  We have yet to replace John Brown.  This offense needs a vertical component which it is sorely lacking.

 

I know Bills had great offense- after we acquired Amari.

 

We lose Mack and Amari, and added Palmer.  

 

Name a worse WR group.

 

What happens if there is a WR injury?  Is WR Beanes Achilles heal?

 

 

 

Who has a better QB than the Bills?   Maybe KC but their WR group is no great shakes either -- and their OL is pretty stinky compared to the Bills. 

 

The Bills WRs could be better but the combo of Allen and the OL plus their stable of RBs makes for a good offense.  Defense, OTOH, has been the Bills problem in the playoffs every year.   This was a good draft for defensive players, and the Bills loaded up on some.   Chill out.

 

[Maine-iac]

5 minutes ago, Kaenon said:

I don't think we're that weak ...

Palmer is more WR2 than WR1, Shakir is one of the best YAC receivers in all of football, Keon showed some promise, but was limited by injuries (and speed), Samuel has got to be one of the better gadget WR4 out there, and then whoever WR5 will be. 

 

Kincaid, Knox, Cook and Ty Johnson handle a lot of catching volume respectively.

 

Would I have liked a WR this draft? Yes. Was I bummed about Royals to the Chiefs, yes - Horton a few picks before us, yes...but it's not all that bad. 

I was a big Horton fan and thought he could have added something to the WR room.  I also thought Zay Jones was going to make a difference.  

[oldmanfan]

1 hour ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said:

The draft isn’t the only way to get weapons. And it’s Beanes job to give his all world QB the weapons he need to get a ring. Beane has the best QB in the league and the MVP, his job is easier than the other 31 GMs in the NFL. He has no excuse to not have explosive weapons for him. We can’t keep asking Josh to perform miracles EVERY SINGLE YEAR. There are teams with 2nd and 3rd options better than our first. It’s inexcusable. 

How many truly explosive weapons are there in the league?  I am sure Beane is looking.  Best thing for the offense now is to get things worked out with Cook.

1 hour ago, davefan66 said:

Hamler??

 

Hasn’t seen the field since 2022.  Was on the field 3 seasons out of his career, total of 620 yards.  Yeah, not counting on him for anything.

But he is basically what people clamored  for on day 3 of the draft.  A speedster.

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Philosophically, what is the point of discussing differing viewpoints if they don’t matter to you?

 

I think it’s time for you to look inward. Some self-reflection. 

And right back at you.  I’m not the one pretending to be an expert.

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

 

And right back at you.  I’m not the one pretending to be an expert.

Yeah, okay lol. 

2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

I have watched some.  Palmer upgrades Cooper.  What was your solution in this draft?  There weren’t these stud WRs you apparently want.

 

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

Film on Palmer when they got him.  Look, bottom line is I don’t think your opinions mean squat.  And vice versa of course.

 

[Pete]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

I’m sorry.  Do we now no longer think guys can improve after their rookie year?  Or that guys with torn Packs and other injuries won’t get better?

Do you think they can regress?  Is that also in the realm of possibility?   Maybe Keon won’t get drilled in the back of the helmet on a Josh pass this season

[The Firebaugh Kid]

You can basically include 86 with the WR group. That makes it a lot better. I don’t love the idea of counting on Curtis Samuel to be healthy but I thought when he was healthy he looked like the best receiver we had. After number 10.

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, Pete said:

Do you think they can regress?  Is that also in the realm of possibility?   Maybe Keon won’t get drilled in the back of the helmet on a Josh pass this season

I think it is much more likely he gets better vs. worse.

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Yeah, okay lol. 

 

 

Yes, I watched some film.  No, that not make me an expert in any way, shape or form.  Just like you, the difference being I accept that.

[Buffalo Boy]

1 hour ago, YattaOkasan said:

I brag about Spencer brown all the time. More than anyone but Josh. Dawkins quite a bit too. Those guys are so much fun. 
 

yes Josh has been bailing out the offense but the defense can’t directly be bailed out by Josh. Hence the investment. 

I get the investment 

I don’t think we need more Municipal Bonds and Money Market index funds though

[MWK]

2 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

You can basically include 86 with the WR group. That makes it a lot better. I don’t love the idea of counting on Curtis Samuel to be healthy but I thought when he was healthy he looked like the best receiver we had. After number 10.

 

Kincaid makes nothing better. 

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Yes, I watched some film.  No, that not make me an expert in any way, shape or form.  Just like you, the difference being I accept that.

The point was that I asked what Chargers games you watched and you didn’t have an answer after saying you watched some lol. Sounds like pretending to me. 

 

Anyway, it sounds like you accept you could be 100% wrong about Josh Palmer and he could be a total JAG, just like he has been his entire career in Charger-land, but a nicely overpaid JAG here in Buffalo. I guess if you accept that, my work is done.

Edited 8 hours ago by FireChans

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, MWK said:

 

Kincaid makes nothing better. 

Do you take into account he was playing injured most of last year?

 

 

[Maine-iac]

Coleman was doing as well as any other rookie at the mid point of the season.  He got hurt and the second half of the season didn't go as well.  He puts together a full season that's even just par with last season and he'll put up numbers better than PIckens did last year.

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

The point was that I asked what Chargers games you watched and you didn’t have an answer after saying you watched some lol. Sounds like pretending to me. 

 

Anyway, it sounds like you accept you could be 100% wrong about Josh Palmer and he could be a total JAG, just like he has been his entire career in Charger-land, but a nicely overpaid here in Buffalo. I guess if you accept that, my work is done.

My opinion is he’s an upgrade over Cooper.  I acknowledge I could be wrong.  Perhaps you should do the same with your opinions.

1 minute ago, Maine-iac said:

Coleman was doing as well as any other rookie at the mid point of the season.  He got hurt and the second half of the season didn't go as well.  He puts together a full season that's even just par with last season and he'll put up numbers better than PIckens did last year.

He needs to step up.  Beane has challenged him to do so.

[MWK]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

Do you take into account he was playing injured most of last year?

 

 

 

If he was that bad because of an injury maybe he shouldn’t have been playing. He’s hit his ceiling. Not a difference maker.