Bills 6th Round Pick (#1) : Dorian Strong - CB - VA Tech

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

100%

 

This team is full of mid good-locker-room guys carried by 17.

 

Lol.  What it lacks is all pros on defense.  
 

But the QB is the MVP

 

The Oline is one of the 3 best in the league anchored by 2 of its best OTs.  
 

The TEs are good.  Knox an elite blocker.  
 

Shakir is a top 25 WR in the league.  
 

Coleman, Samuel, Palmer - talk to me if Coleman doesn’t make a leap.   
 

Cook is a top 10 RB and the RB room is great.  

 

 

The offense lacks only an elite WR.  Doesn’t mean we had to fix that this weekend with the issues on defense.  
 

And that is speed and DL depth.  
 

The D line is upgraded - if the rookies are good we’re going to have nothing there to address more importantly pay for years.  
 

The LBs are good.  
 

The Secondary has a top 5 CB. A rookie that might be a future CB 1.  Good depth at CB.  

 

And if Bishop, like Coleman, makes a leap (they were both sort of development guys) the defense will be elite.   

[boyst]

15 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He’s a pretty good player and represents good value as did Hancock. The Bills just don’t have enough roster spots in the secondary to roster all of these guys. They got sniped for Horton. They missed the WR. They got sniped for Pooh Paul. They didn’t do a good job today (at all) IMO. I hate the idea of drafting guys that are immediately long shots to make the team. I’d rather draft a punter or developmental QB. You have a bottom 5-7 group of pass catchers and you drafted one guy. He’s Lee Smith. 

Or the fastest center or guard available who has good knees, extremely smart, and is less than 6' and 300 lbs to be a dive full back.

 

I'm obsessed with this. 

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Mikie2times said:

We played out of our minds with the benefit of 3 turnovers the last Baltimore game. It was the best first half I have seen from our defense, ever (within context) and yes, we are among the very best at generating turnovers and that is all McD. I don’t exactly chalk up the hurricane game vs Greg Roman the same way. Our offense couldn’t do anything in that weather either. 
 

Either way my stats included both and still among the very worst teams who went that far. Because in between these outcomes you’re calling out were so many horrendous ones. I know, injuries. I don’t really care anymore. Get it done. Win the f’n game. Arguing the nuisances of it all on here feels like talking politics at this point. 

I agree 

 

But at a point some people act like Sean McDermott is a bum 

 

And he is a tremendous football coach and would be scooped up in a millisecond if the Bills ever fired him 

 

Most considered turnovers a random statistic.. because it varies so much year to year and relies a lot on a little bit of luck 

 

Yet Sean McDermott has 14 out of 16 years in the top 10 and 8 out of 14 years in the top five 

 

Which is showing with him it's not luck his scheme is elite at creating turnovers which every defensive coordinator wants

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Shakir is a top 25 WR in the league.  
 

Spit out my drink at that

 

You owe me 

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Last year they decided to replace their top 2 WRs, with the 9th WR drafted, Mack Hollins, MVS, Chase Claypool, Andy Isabella, KJ Hamler and some other scrub that I’m forgetting. Why? Why neglect guys to help the most important player the team has ever had? Why make him overcome them instead of adding people to elevate him?

 

I’m trying to trade for George Pickens.

There is no hope anymore bro.

 

Beane does this to himself every year it seems. Backs himself into a corner.

 

We signed Josh Palmer, a guy who walked from a team with maybe a worse WR group in 2024 to a wild overpay as our “answer.”

 

Its his blind spot and you’ll drive yourself insane hoping he changes lol

[dma0034]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

I agree 

 

But at a point some people act like Sean McDermott is a bum 

 

And he is a tremendous football coach and would be scooped up in a millisecond if the Bills ever fired him 

 

Most considered turnovers a random statistic.. because it varies so much year to year and relies a lot on a little bit of luck 

 

Yet Sean McDermott has 14 out of 16 years in the top 10 and 8 out of 14 years in the top five 

 

Which is showing with him it's not luck his scheme is elite at creating turnovers which every defensive coordinator wants

 

 

Or it shows that the Defense is playing with a lead and the QBs have take more risks. 

 

 

That's what this Defense is

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, dma0034 said:

 

 

Or it shows that the Defense is playing with a lead and the QBs have take more risks. 

 

 

That's what this Defense is

Exactly which is why their draft philosophy is hilarious. If the D needs a lead to be effective, shouldn't you be bolstering the side of the ball that builds leads?

[Big Blitz]

1 minute ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Spit out my drink at that

 

You owe me 

 

I think he’s definitely paid that, right?

 

I have little doubt he is …. ok maybe top 30.  

[Mikie2times]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

I agree 

 

But at a point some people act like Sean McDermott is a bum 

 

And he is a tremendous football coach and would be scooped up in a millisecond if the Bills ever fired him 

 

Most considered turnovers a random statistic.. because it varies so much year to year and relies a lot on a little bit of luck 

 

Yet Sean McDermott has 14 out of 16 years in the top 10 and 8 out of 14 years in the top five 

 

Which is showing with him it's not luck his scheme is elite at creating turnovers which every defensive coordinator wants

I used to push that a lot and while I don’t love his scheme and would much rather challenge every yard and give up some big plays than bend but don’t break, he will always be + against turnovers and that’s a big deal. What he’s done historically in generating turnovers defies the randomness logic. The only other time I have seen that profile was with the pre inflategate Patriots. It matters a lot. But still just a skeptical dude as it relates to Beane and McD’s ability to close and get the Lombardi. 

[FireChans]

8 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Lol.  What it lacks is all pros on defense.  
 

But the QB is the MVP

 

The Oline is one of the 3 best in the league anchored by 2 of its best OTs.  
 

The TEs are good.  Knox an elite blocker.  
 

Shakir is a top 25 WR in the league.  
 

Coleman, Samuel, Palmer - talk to me if Coleman doesn’t make a leap.   
 

Cook is a top 10 RB and the RB room is great.  

 

 

The offense lacks only an elite WR.  Doesn’t mean we had to fix that this weekend with the issues on defense.  
 

And that is speed and DL depth.  
 

The D line is upgraded - if the rookies are good we’re going to have nothing there to address more importantly pay for years.  
 

The LBs are good.  
 

The Secondary has a top 5 CB. A rookie that might be a future CB 1.  Good depth at CB.  

 

And if Bishop, like Coleman, makes a leap (they were both sort of development guys) the defense will be elite.   

Let’s go one step further.

 

Maybe if EVERYONE makes a leap, we will win the next 8 Superbowls 

[GolfandBills]

6 minutes ago, FireChans said:

There is no hope anymore bro.

 

Beane does this to himself every year it seems. Backs himself into a corner.

 

We signed Josh Palmer, a guy who walked from a team with maybe a worse WR group in 2024 to a wild overpay as our “answer.”

 

Its his blind spot and you’ll drive yourself insane hoping he changes lol

🤡 

[Mikie2times]

4 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Let’s go one step further.

 

Maybe if EVERYONE makes a leap, we will win the next 8 Superbowls 

 In about 3-4 years I will be Ron Jeremy in the sac. I’m a developmental prospect. 

Edited yesterday at 09:40 PM by Mikie2times

[finn]

16 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

We rank 16 out of 18 teams who have played at least one game in the divisional round since 2020 in EPA playoff defense. This who hum, gee golly, just need a bounce our way is about the most laughable take I have read here (not just shared by you). We haven’t produced a marginal speed bump to opposing offenses when it matters most. Across a fairly large sample of games. Call it talent, call it scheme, don’t really care what you call it, but please don’t suggest we need a ball to “bounce” a little different for our dreams to come true. 

Meanwhile, Allen ranks first of all quarterbacks in the past five years in playoff EPA. In short, when it counts the most, the best quarterback in the league is carrying the worst defense in the league. It's about time they addressed the problem. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, finn said:

Meanwhile, Allen ranks first of all quarterbacks in the past five years in playoff EPA. In short, when it counts the most, the best quarterback in the league is carrying the worst defense in the league. It's about time they addressed the problem. 

My brother, they address the defense every year and it never improves.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Joe Brady

I mean, that was actually a live shot of Kromer, but yeah, close enough! 😝🤣

[QCity]

Just now, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

My brother, they address the defense every year and it never improves.

 

Yes, but now we're REALLY addressing it. No fooling this time.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, QCity said:

 

Yes, but now we're REALLY addressing it. No fooling this time.

ONCE MORE WITH FEELING 

[finn]

2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

My brother, they address the defense every year and it never improves.

It's because they gave up on Boogie Basham too soon!  😃

[blacklabel]

1 hour ago, MarlinTheMagician said:

But maybe think of it as two corners and one safety that can back up the slot.  Seems very reasonable - safety and two corners.  The cupboard was very bare.

 

Does Hancock have ability at safety? I haven't read up too much on him yet. But yeah, cupboard was bare for sure. Tre and Dane one-year deals, they didn't bring back Rasul, definitely needed to add there. 

 

I actually like the safety group. I think Rapp is kinda underrated. I think they're a better defense when he's out there. I don't mind Hamlin, great story obviously, but he whiffs on the run at times. Hopefully Bishop can become what they want him to be and seems like Forrest ain't bad. 

[JESSEFEFFER]

49 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

Bills were:

 

28th in league in amount of plays

26 in passing attempts

17th in Passing yds

 

Bills passing offense was bad. The Bills scored points by protecting Josh, rushing and a lot of turnover luck on both sides of the ball.

 

Scoring 30+ points a game and having an MVP QB not possible in the NFL with a bad passing game.  High volume stats you cite are incompatible with a 13 and 3 team  that blew away their division and had their starting QB on the sideline for ~10 quarters of game action.