Bills 6th Round Pick (#1) : Dorian Strong - CB - VA Tech

[Buffalo716]

23 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

McD and the Defense have done more to waste Josh's prime than anything else.

McDermott has more top 10 defenses.. points per game.. yards per game.. turnovers then Steve spagnola 

 

Sean McDermott has 14 seasons of being in the top 10 for turnovers... Spags has like 4

 

McDermott has like eight seasons in the top 10 for points per.. spags has like 5.. McDermott has like six seasons in the top 10 yards per game... Spags has like 7

 

Mind you Sean has  done this as a defensive coordinator and a head coach 

 

Nobody scheme is perfect we haven't had the ball bounce our way the way we needed it.. as much as you need skill you need a little bit of luck to win a super bowl which we have not had

 

Steve spagnola's scheme  has plenty of flaws , I would take Sean McDermott any day of the week 

 

To lead my defense or team

Edited yesterday at 09:07 PM by Buffalo716

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

McDermott has more top 10 defenses.. points per game.. yards per game.. turnovers then Steve spagnola 

 

Sean McDermott has 14 seasons of being in the top 10 for turnovers... Spags has like 4

 

McDermott has like eight seasons in the top 10 for points per.. spags has like 5.. McDermott has like six seasons in the top 10 yards per game... Spags has like 7

 

Mind you Sean has  done this as a defensive coordinator and a head coach 

 

Nobody scheme is perfect we haven't had the ball bounce our way the way we needed it.. as much as you need skill you need a little bit of luck to win a super bowl which we have not had

 

And yet, he and the defense are still the main reason we havent made it to the top of the mountain. Not the Offense.

 

I dont care about his stats in Carolina.

 

[Success]

5 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

Bills were:

 

28th in league in amount of plays

26 in passing attempts

17th in Passing yds

 

Bills passing offense was bad. The Bills scored points by protecting Josh, rushing and a lot of turnover luck on both sides of the ball.

 

 

I still think Kincaid makes a leap.  We've seen the potential - he just hasn't put it all together yet. I expect Coleman to be much more of a contributor - he was looking great before his injury.  Samuel isn't a star, but he played w/ turf toe all last year.  Josh Palmer is a very good addition.  Shakir is always reliable.  

 

I'm pretty certain that we'll see a better passing game this year.  I'm just not worried about the offense. It feels like they always show up. This team needs a championship-caliber defense.  

 

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, Special K said:

Bills new revolutionary Defensive formation.....4 DT's and 7 CB's!!!!!!!

 

They could run a 2-3-6 except that would only work against the Bills in a Super Bowl.

 

That said, the Bills did not have the personnel to do to the Chiefs what the Eagles did to the Chiefs receivers off the line. This is about getting those guys.

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

And yet, he and the defense are still the main reason we havent made it to the top of the mountain. Not the Offense.

 

I dont care about his stats in Carolina.

 

 

He's been here 7-8 years and by the time we've got to the playoffs we've had five years of being decimated by injuries 

 

I don't use it as an excuse but I also don't think we're winning the super bowl when we've been down three four starters for most of our playoff runs 

 

Again we had to trot out elam , one of the worst pics in the McDermott era... We lost our best safety from the entire season in rapp... If we could replace elam with Tre white who's now on our team 

 

Tre doesn't get abused the way Elam did in the playoff game by Worthy .. it doesn't even matter that Tre not in his prime..  Tre will literally jam the kid into the ground into Oblivion

 

He's not running free for 15 yards 

 

It takes as much luck as skill to win a super bowl and the bills have not had Lady luck side..  the Chiefs last year could have lost seven or eight games in the regular season and was winning by teams missing chip shop field goals 

 

That's called lady luck... Something the bills have not had

Edited yesterday at 09:12 PM by Buffalo716

[Kirby Jackson]

He’s a pretty good player and represents good value as did Hancock. The Bills just don’t have enough roster spots in the secondary to roster all of these guys. They got sniped for Horton. They missed the WR. They got sniped for Pooh Paul. They didn’t do a good job today (at all) IMO. I hate the idea of drafting guys that are immediately long shots to make the team. I’d rather draft a punter or developmental QB. You have a bottom 5-7 group of pass catchers and you drafted one guy. He’s Lee Smith. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

5 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I still think Kincaid makes a leap.  We've seen the potential - he just hasn't put it all together yet. I expect Coleman to be much more of a contributor - he was looking great before his injury.  Samuel isn't a star, but he played w/ turf toe all last year.  Josh Palmer is a very good addition.  Shakir is always reliable.  

 

I'm pretty certain that we'll see a better passing game this year.  I'm just not worried about the offense. It feels like they always show up. This team needs a championship-caliber defense.  

 

Ah, hope.

 

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

 

He's been here 7-8 years and by the time we've got to the playoffs we've had five years of being decimated by injuries 

 

I don't use it as an excuse but I also don't think we're winning the super bowl when we've been down three four starters for most of our playoff runs 

 

Again we had to trot out elam , one of the worst pics in the McDermott era... If we could replace him with Tre white who's now on our team 

 

Tre doesn't get abused the way Elam did in the playoff game by Worthy .. it doesn't even matter that Tre not in his prime..  Tre will literally jam the kid into the ground into Oblivion

 

He's not running free for 15 yards 

 

It takes as much luck as skill to win a super bowl and the bills have not had Lady luck side..  the Chiefs last year could have lost seven or eight games in the regular season and was winning by teams missing chip shop field goals 

 

That's called lady luck... Something the bills have not had

 

And we also had multiple players from both sides of the ball talk about how the Chiefs threw stuff at them they hadnt seen before and werent ready for. Even with all the familiarity we have with them. That is coaching.

 

The Bills have had plenty of luck. Our turnover numbers on both Offense and Defense last year was a lot of luck. We had a bunch of calls go our way too.

 

Yes, good teams are lucky. But sometimes you have to make your own luck.

 

And it wasnt luck that kept us out. It was poor performance by the coaches and defense. Again.

[Toledo Bill]

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Joe Brady

For Christ's sake. We would be 0-17 without Josh.

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

And we also had multiple players from both sides of the ball talk about how the Chiefs threw stuff at them they hadnt seen before and werent ready for. Even with all the familiarity we have with them. That is coaching.

 

The Bills have had plenty of luck. Our turnover numbers on both Offense and Defense last year was a lot of luck. We had a bunch of calls go our way too.

 

Yes, good teams are lucky. But sometimes you have to make your own luck.

 

And it wasnt luck that kept us out. It was poor performance by the coaches and defense. Again.

Every single team holds stuff out.. like did the Chiefs have some wrinkles that the bills didn't see in the regular season? Sure

 

Did they run wrinkles that no football players ever seen? No lol

 

Andy Reid Sean McDermott Bill belichick.. I don't care who it is.. every single play in NFL history has been ran before football's recycled 

 

Greg R lost contain all day so of course he's going to have an excuse .. "they gave us wrinkles we never saw "

 

Well guess what I saw it on tape two years ago against the Chiefs.. some of the same plays were Greg was collapsing inside into Oblivion that he said he didn't see 

 

But Reid has had it in his playbook for 5 years he just didn't run it a lot this year

Edited yesterday at 09:18 PM by Buffalo716

[Mikie2times]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

McDermott has more top 10 defenses.. points per game.. yards per game.. turnovers then Steve spagnola 

 

Sean McDermott has 14 seasons of being in the top 10 for turnovers... Spags has like 4

 

McDermott has like eight seasons in the top 10 for points per.. spags has like 5.. McDermott has like six seasons in the top 10 yards per game... Spags has like 7

 

Mind you Sean has  done this as a defensive coordinator and a head coach 

 

Nobody scheme is perfect we haven't had the ball bounce our way the way we needed it.. as much as you need skill you need a little bit of luck to win a super bowl which we have not had

 

Steve spagnola's scheme  has plenty of flaws , I would take Sean McDermott any day of the week 

 

To lead my defense or team

We rank 16 out of 18 teams who have played at least one game in the divisional round since 2020 in EPA playoff defense. This who hum, gee golly, just need a bounce our way is about the most laughable take I have read here (not just shared by you). We haven’t produced a marginal speed bump to opposing offenses when it matters most. Across a fairly large sample of games. Call it talent, call it scheme, don’t really care what you call it, but please don’t suggest we need a ball to “bounce” a little different for our dreams to come true. 

Edited yesterday at 09:19 PM by Mikie2times

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Toledo Bill said:

For Christ's sake. We would be 0-17 without Josh.

100%

 

This team is full of mid good-locker-room guys carried by 17.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Mikie2times said:

We rank 16 out of 18 teams who have played at least one game in the divisional round since 2020 in EPA defense. This who hum, gee golly, just need a bounce our way is about the most laughable take I have read here (not just shared by you). We haven’t produced a marginal speed bump to opposing offenses when it matters most. Across a fairly large sample of games. Call it talent, call it scheme, don’t really care what you call it, but please don’t suggest we need a ball to “bounce” a little different for our dreams to come true. 

We've held the Ravens and MVP Lamar Jackson the 25 points and 20 points in two playoff games 

 

We don't give up 35 to everyone 

[NeverOutNick]

Where’s @DJB with all the X updates on these late guys? I love following those 

[Kirby Jackson]

3 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Ah, hope.

 

That’s been driving me nuts lol. Everyone is fine betting on a leap from Kincaid and Coleman, etc.. On the defensive side of the ball though they needed to replace Carter, Ingram, etc… The hypocrisy of hope

[FireChans]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s been driving me nuts lol. Everyone is fine betting on a leap from Kincaid and Coleman, etc.. On the defensive side of the ball though they needed to replace Carter, Ingram, etc… The hypocrisy of hope

We went from “half of our later picks aren’t making the roster because of how deep we are” to “we just got so much better at CB7!”

[Einstein]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

McDermott has more top 10 defenses.. points per game.. yards per game.. turnovers then Steve spagnola 

That's regular season. Playoffs are the problem.

Since 2020, Bills defense has given up 25+ points to opposite offenses in the playoffs 58.8% of the time.

Since 2020, Chiefs defenses have given up 25+ points to opposite offenses in the playoffs 37.5% of the time.

Not to mention, Spags just seems to know exactly what to call when its crunch time. 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s been driving me nuts lol. Everyone is fine betting on a leap from Kincaid and Coleman, etc.. On the defensive side of the ball though they needed to replace Carter, Ingram, etc… The hypocrisy of hope

It's all so tiresome. You can almost predict how it'll end. They'll be at up the weak sisters of the poor on their schedule, beat one or two quality opponents, end up at 10-11 wins, and get muscled out of the playoffs because the small, fast defense will be beat to a pulp by that point.

 

Then the chorus will sing about how we need to bolster the defense in 26. Lather, rinse repeat.

 

 

[Mikie2times]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

We've held the Ravens and MVP Lamar Jackson the 25 points and 20 points in two playoff games 

 

We don't give up 35 to everyone 

We played out of our minds with the benefit of 3 turnovers the last Baltimore game. It was the best first half I have seen from our defense, ever (within context) and yes, we are among the very best at generating turnovers and that is all McD. I don’t exactly chalk up the hurricane game vs Greg Roman the same way. Our offense couldn’t do anything in that weather either. 
 

Either way my stats included both and still among the very worst teams who went that far. Because in between these outcomes you’re calling out were so many horrendous ones. I know, injuries. I don’t really care anymore. Get it done. Win the f’n game. Arguing the nuisances of it all on here feels like talking politics at this point. 

[Kirby Jackson]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

We went from “half of our later picks aren’t making the roster because of how deep we are” to “we just got so much better at CB7!”

Last year they decided to replace their top 2 WRs, with the 9th WR drafted, Mack Hollins, MVS, Chase Claypool, Andy Isabella, KJ Hamler and some other scrub that I’m forgetting. Why? Why neglect guys to help the most important player the team has ever had? Why make him overcome them instead of adding people to elevate him?

 

I’m trying to trade for George Pickens.