Bills 5th Round Pick (#2) : Jackson Hawes - TE - Georgia Tech

[LyndonvilleBill]

4 hours ago, NewEra said:

Haven’t watched any highlights- just listened to his interview from today. I love this guy.  Dude just wants to smack people.  And has an economics degree from Yale.

 

I still have some hope for Davidson, but I’m really rooting for Hawes.  
 

Edit:  watched a little tape. He’s our version of Alan Ricard…. Just a lot smaller.  He’s not just a good blocking TE.  He’s an extremely good blocker.  Maybe he can play the Mack Hollins role on some of those screens 🤣  I’d bet he’ll be in the league for 5+ years as a designated blocker.  

And lined up next to Brown, could make for a fun right side. 😉😁

[DCofNC]

The more I look at this entire draft the more I think it’s prepping for next off-season.  They have too many DL, specifically guys that can play 3T or 1T, they have excess Edge guys, excess DBs and a TE that does not seem to make sense…. All until it does.

 

Oliver saves money by being cut next year, Jones is already one foot out the door, don’t expect Bosa back, the DB room could be almost entirely replaced from what we saw in 2023 including the obvious one year guys.  Oh and where does this big ole blocking TE fit?  The Knox replacement. 
 

I’m not going to pretend I have a clue about the individual guys Beane chose, but I see a plan forming and I like it.   Great plan in place and WR can be heavily addressed next draft to restock the pantry with what one hopes is a better class.  As of right now, the room was too full to do much anyway with Shakir, Palmer, Keon, Samuel as virtual locks and somebody competing as ST player and WR at flex.  I get it, I don’t love it, but they have to let Keon make or break this year and the contracts pretty much  force their hand on the others.

[SoTier]

10 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Another trade to Andy Reid that worked out just great for us.

 

Different regime.  Different motivation.  Beane/McDermott would NEVER have traded away Peters for a late first rounder (it was Philly's second first rounder) because they never would have put themselves in the situation that Russ Brandon got himself into because they're intent on winning football games rather than maximizing profits.

 

The Bills were never going to draft Xavier Worthy, so get over it.  They were looking for a big boundary WR, and Worthy at 5'11" and 165 lbs wasn't that. 

[Gigs]

7 hours ago, NewEra said:

Haven’t watched any highlights- just listened to his interview from today. I love this guy.  Dude just wants to smack people.  And has an economics degree from Yale.

 

I still have some hope for Davidson, but I’m really rooting for Hawes.  
 

Edit:  watched a little tape. He’s our version of Alan Ricard…. Just a lot smaller.  He’s not just a good blocking TE.  He’s an extremely good blocker.  Maybe he can play the Mack Hollins role on some of those screens 🤣  I’d bet he’ll be in the league for 5+ years as a designated blocker.  

Kind of feel kickoffs should be loaded with guys like this lined up ready to block. I figured coaches would put big athletic TE/FBesque blockers out there but idk if there's enough good blockers in the league like it had 20 years ago, so...

 

I feel modern kickoffs are meant for guys like Mike Alstott, Beast Mode, Emmitt Smith, King Henry, OJ Simpson to dominate kickoffs. NFL needs more creativeness in kickoffs, not rule changes

[Blank Stare]

More like Jackson Hoss. 

 

[Beck Water]

17 hours ago, KentuckyBillsFan said:

Just makes absolutely no sense

 

Kid is obviously intended as the Lee Smith of the future

Edited 9 hours ago by Beck Water

[dave mcbride]

14 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

One of the best OTs who ever played for the Bills was an UDFA TE named Jason Peters.  Back in the days of the OJ Simpson's Electric Company, a converted TE named Paul Costa anchored one side of the OL that helped OJ run for 2003 yards ... in 14 games.   Maybe Hawes is the next Bills TE to move to OT.

Paul Seymour is who you are thinking of, I suspect. Drafted 7th overall by the Bills, he actually played OT at Michigan and converted to TE in the pros.  But he was basically an elite blocking TE. He started 68 games for the Bills and had only 62 career receptions.

 

In 1978, the Bills traded Seymour to the Steelers for Frank Lewis, who became an excellent player for the Bills. Seymour failed his physical (foot injury), was shipped back to the Bills, and never played another down.

[TPS]

8 hours ago, NewEra said:

Haven’t watched any highlights- just listened to his interview from today. I love this guy.  Dude just wants to smack people.  And has an economics degree from Yale.

 

I still have some hope for Davidson, but I’m really rooting for Hawes.  
 

Edit:  watched a little tape. He’s our version of Alan Ricard…. Just a lot smaller.  He’s not just a good blocking TE.  He’s an extremely good blocker.  Maybe he can play the Mack Hollins role on some of those screens 🤣  I’d bet he’ll be in the league for 5+ years as a designated blocker.  

I could see Hawes taking Morris' roster spot, focused on STs, and Hawes is definitely in-line and would get playing time as a blocker.  Davidson is a receiving (move) TE and played when Kincaid got hurt.

I don't know if Hawes could also take on the H-back role of Gilliam, but I think the roster decision has Davidson looking in from the outside since he's basically competing for a role that both Knox and Kincaid play.  I think Davidson has a lot of potential and would hate to see him not make it, and I think he'd certainly get picked up if the Bills try to get him on the PS again.

[st pete gogolak]

42 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Paul Seymour is who you are thinking of, I suspect. Drafted 7th overall by the Bills, he actually played OT at Michigan and converted to TE in the pros.  But he was basically an elite blocking TE. He started 68 games for the Bills and had only 62 career receptions.

 

In 1978, the Bills traded Seymour to the Steelers for Frank Lewis, who became an excellent player for the Bills. Seymour failed his physical (foot injury), was shipped back to the Bills, and never played another down.

Paul Seymour’s brother, Jim Seymour, was one of the most famous college athletes of the mid-60’s. He was a WR on great Norte Dame teams of that era. Paul’s NFL career was truly unique. College All-American OL to pro TE but essentially another tackle on one of the great OL’s of all time (Dave Foley, Reggie McKenzie, Jarvis/Montler, Joe D, Donnie Green and Seymour).

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, TPS said:

I could see Hawes taking Morris' roster spot, focused on STs, and Hawes is definitely in-line and would get playing time as a blocker.  Davidson is a receiving (move) TE and played when Kincaid got hurt.

I don't know if Hawes could also take on the H-back role of Gilliam, but I think the roster decision has Davidson looking in from the outside since he's basically competing for a role that both Knox and Kincaid play.  I think Davidson has a lot of potential and would hate to see him not make it, and I think he'd certainly get picked up if the Bills try to get him on the PS again.

I think Georgia Tech lined him up all over the place as a blocker.

 

I could see a world where we need to free up a roster spot for the DL potentially and do that by making Jackson Hawes our FB/TE3.  
 

He’s an absolute unit.   For what we do, this was a great draft pick and he’s probably a 99% lock for this roster. 

[MrEpsYtown]

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

I think Georgia Tech lined him up all over the place as a blocker.

 

I could see a world where we need to free up a roster spot for the DL potentially and do that by making Jackson Hawes our FB/TE3.  
 

He’s an absolute unit.   For what we do, this was a great draft pick and he’s probably a 99% lock for this roster. 

Yeah unless he is absolutely awful, he’s a lock imo. 

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I think Georgia Tech lined him up all over the place as a blocker.

 

I could see a world where we need to free up a roster spot for the DL potentially and do that by making Jackson Hawes our FB/TE3.  
 

He’s an absolute unit.   For what we do, this was a great draft pick and he’s probably a 99% lock for this roster. 

 

That decision will come after week 6 since Hoecht and Ogunjobi will be on the suspended list.  Until then, I see Jones and Logue being cut post-June 1st, giving them 9 DL including the rookies. 

 

And I can see him replacing both Morris and Gilliam.

[SoTier]

2 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Paul Seymour is who you are thinking of, I suspect. Drafted 7th overall by the Bills, he actually played OT at Michigan and converted to TE in the pros.  But he was basically an elite blocking TE. He started 68 games for the Bills and had only 62 career receptions.

 

In 1978, the Bills traded Seymour to the Steelers for Frank Lewis, who became an excellent player for the Bills. Seymour failed his physical (foot injury), was shipped back to the Bills, and never played another down.

 

I looked him up.  It was Costa.  He started out as a TE, drafted well after the first round, and eventually moved to tackle in the pros.   I do stand corrected in that while he did block for OJ Simpson, he retired after the 1972, so he wasn't part of the OL that blocked for Simpson's 2003 yards, which was 1973.  Seymour was always listed as a TE in the pros although he was definitely a "blocking TE": he caught 62 balls for 818 yards and 3 TDs in 5 seasons.

Edited 7 hours ago by SoTier

[SCBills]

This quote is wild .. LOVE IT

 

 

[Sierra Foothills]

20 hours ago, HOUSE said:

I loved this guy since I was 5 years old

 

Then why don't you marry him?

 

19 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

And he went to Yale.

 

Seriously impressive... then after he got his degree in Economics he enrolled at Georgia Tech so he could play high level football.

 

19 hours ago, HappyDays said:

"The human is the greatest opponent you can have."

 

We just drafted a Terminator so that's fun.

 

It reminds me of when Eric Wood was drafted and was asked why he loved football so much. He said something to the effect "You can do things on the football field that are seriously illegal."

 

19 hours ago, Casey D said:

Guy is in Menza!!!

 

19 hours ago, Bag of Milk said:

It's spelled Mensa, obviously you aren't.

 

You aren't your average Bag of Milk, are you?

 

19 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

All I can think to console myself is Josh himself doesn't want more help.  Wouldn't they ask him what he wants? 

 

The last time they asked for Josh's input on a receiver it resulted in Keon Coleman. This year when asked if he had been watching video, Josh said "In Beane we trust."

 

16 hours ago, SoTier said:

One of the best OTs who ever played for the Bills was an UDFA TE named Jason Peters.  Back in the days of the OJ Simpson's Electric Company, a converted TE named Paul Costa anchored one side of the OL that helped OJ run for 2003 yards ... in 14 games.   Maybe Hawes is the next Bills TE to move to OT.

 

2 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

Paul Seymour is who you are thinking of, I suspect. Drafted 7th overall by the Bills, he actually played OT at Michigan and converted to TE in the pros.  But he was basically an elite blocking TE. He started 68 games for the Bills and had only 62 career receptions.

 

In 1978, the Bills traded Seymour to the Steelers for Frank Lewis, who became an excellent player for the Bills. Seymour failed his physical (foot injury), was shipped back to the Bills, and never played another down.

 

I think Jason Peters is a different caliber of athlete but Paul Costa and Paul Seymour are both excellent comparables, having been drafted as tackles and then moved to tight end during their careers. Hawes is a good athlete though. His explosive measurables (vertical, broad, and 10 yard split) are all excellent.

 

10 hours ago, NewEra said:

I still have some hope for Davidson, but I’m really rooting for Hawes. Edit:  watched a little tape. He’s our version of Alan Ricard…. Just a lot smaller.  He’s not just a good blocking TE.  He’s an extremely good blocker.  Maybe he can play the Mack Hollins role on some of those screens 🤣  I’d bet he’ll be in the league for 5+ years as a designated blocker.  

 

Right on. Davidson is a move tight end. Hawes is an inline tight end with some athleticism. It would be really cool having someone like Patrick Ricard or James Develin (or Sam Gash for those who remember) just blowing people up as a fullback. I could see Hawes having an impact on the roster but it's hard to know exactly where... any of Alec Anderson, Reggie Gilliam, and/or Dawson Knox could eventually be impacted as Hawes' role clarifies.

 

[Dunkirk Donski]

21 hours ago, Turk71 said:

He runs a 4.82 40...so he's got that going for him

Still faster than Keon 

 

[Doc Brown]

5 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

Different regime.  Different motivation.  Beane/McDermott would NEVER have traded away Peters for a late first rounder (it was Philly's second first rounder) because they never would have put themselves in the situation that Russ Brandon got himself into because they're intent on winning football games rather than maximizing profits.

 

The Bills were never going to draft Xavier Worthy, so get over it.  They were looking for a big boundary WR, and Worthy at 5'11" and 165 lbs wasn't that. 

I completely understand that and I just found it humorous that one of our worst trades in our history was to Andy Reid.  I didn't want the Bills to draft Worthy.  I said leading up to the draft that if BTJ was within striking distance Beane should pull the trigger to get him.  My 2nd choice was Mitchell.  I was glad he moved back a couple of spots to get a 3rd round pick back though.

[Warriorspikes51]

Has he lined up at FB? 

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Has he lined up at FB? 

🤷🏻‍♂️ but he will