Bills 4th Round Pick : Deone Walker - DT - Kentucky

[Buffalo Barbarian]

9 minutes ago, bills_fan said:

No. I want that 450lb kid from Florida in the 7th. Seriously. 

 

That dude is very fat needs to lose a hundred pounds

 

 

[TheWeatherMan]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

That dude is very fat needs to lose a hundred pounds

 

 

Imagine losing 200lbs and still weighing over 200lbs? 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

2 hours ago, Virgil said:

There's your 1T.  Everyone can rest easy now.

 

Interesting to me that they took him over Farmer, considering the visits they had with Farmer.  Also, surprised they felt they needed to trade up for him, since the ratings I saw for Walker had him going lower.  ESPN has Walker 10 rating points less than Farmer, for whatever that is worth.  

 

no ! Guy is weak with chicken legs, very tall for DT and gets pushed around easily

 

 

1 minute ago, TheWeatherMan said:

Imagine losing 200lbs and still weighing over 200lbs? 

 

it happens but 200 would be too much 

 

 

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I hope I’m wrong

Me too

2 hours ago, dreadlox said:

Joe Marino is gonna lose his mind! He wanted nothing to do with this guy.

 

i trust Joe over the Bills scouts. Do they not now how to scout DT ???

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

 

And skinny 

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Weird how so many people hate him! He seems perfect. What’s the knock?

 

very tall , very weak lower body gets pushed around

 

 

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Is this one fat enough for all of you or do we need to go 4bills with the next one?

 

hes not big enough for his size looks skinny and sloppy, this guy needs and strength and conditioning overhaul and dietitian.

 

 

[BullBuchanan]

12 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

The Bills need to only pick high ceiling guys today, and I think he fufills that requirement. He likely is cut and then practice squad but in two years could be a monster 

No chance he's cut. He's a 4th round pick, not a 7th.

[LABILLBACKER]

Mission accomplished...another fantastic value pick in the 4th.  CBS had Walker ranked at 47 and TJ Sanders at 51.  He can now be groomed as our huge 1T.  We'll done BB.

[Krakensabres]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

And skinny 

 

very tall , very weak lower body gets pushed around

 

 

 

hes not big enough for his size looks skinny and sloppy, this guy needs and strength and conditioning overhaul and dietitian.

 

 

Dude had a major back issue last year and year before was in 1st round discussion - maybe that could limit his ability to lift and get stronger last year you think plus effect his bend/leverage 

[Turk71]

Did they really need to move up again? Or is that just something Beane likes to do?

 Top heavy blob who stands up tall to get pushed around better. Lacks lower body strength to play with better leverage at point of attack. 

  Every single year they are rebuilding the d line while the NFL MVP once again has a below average wr group to throw to. A lot of people saying this wasn't the year for wrs, would it have even mattered if this was a great year for wrs? The best year for wrs the Bills took a big slow can't get open guy at the end of the first round....I guess that means they're good for a few more years. Once again we can talk about how great the d line is gonna be...until we find out they're not and then draft some more next year.

  This is groundhog day all over again...and once again the Bills wr corp is a bottom 3rd of the league group.   Go Bills!

[Krakensabres]

2 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

Did they really need to move up again? Or is that just something Beane likes to do?

 Top heavy blob who stands up tall to get pushed around better. Lacks lower body strength to play with better leverage at point of attack. 

  Every single year they are rebuilding the d line while the NFL MVP once again has a below average wr group to throw to. A lot of people saying this wasn't the year for wrs, would it have even mattered if this was a great year for wrs? The best year for wrs the Bills took a big slow can't get open guy at the end of the first round....I guess that means they're good for a few more years. Once again we can talk about how great the d line is gonna be...until we find out they're not and then draft some more next year.

  This is groundhog day all over again...and once again the Bills wr corp is a bottom 3rd of the league group.   Go Bills!

Did you watch our team last year - most people have been screaming for a start like this. The D is why we lost … they still have 5 freakin picks left too!! Meanwhile our offense was top 5…

Edited yesterday at 07:11 PM by Krakensabres

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, Krakensabres said:

Dude had a major back issue last year and year before was in 1st round discussion - maybe that could limit his ability to lift and get stronger last year you think plus effect his bend/leverage 

 

We could have gotten a better guy than this latter and passing over Ty Robinson is unbelievable , who went to the eagles who know what good DTs look like.

 

 

[Krakensabres]

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

We could have gotten a better guy than this latter and passing over Ty Robinson is unbelievable , who went to the eagles who know what good DTs look like.

 

 

The guy who weighed 290? We have like 4 of those guys….

[BigDingus]

I've been of the mindset that you can upgrade D talent everywhere, yet they'll still perform the same in the playoffs as long as McDermott is calling the shots.

 

This draft is a good chance to prove me wrong. It'll also give McDermott & Beane a chance to redeem themselves by showing they can identify defensive stars in the early rounds if things pan out.

[kitchen sink]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

That dude is very fat needs to lose a hundred pounds

 

 

I see the Deone Walker selection as a statement by the Bills that they believe in their coaching and strength/conditioning process. 

 

Deone has unteachable size, but needs to trade about 50 lbs. of upper body fat for 30 lbs. of lower body muscle mass and related strength (not that you can really trade one for the other, but you get the point).  

 

The 450lb kid from Florida would be about two times that challenge. 

Edited 22 hours ago by kitchen sink

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, kitchen sink said:

I see the Deone Walker selection as a statement by the Bills that they believe in their coaching and strength/conditioning process. 

 

Deone has unteachable size, but needs to trade about 50 lbs. of upper body fat for 30 lbs. of lower body muscle mass and related strength (not that you can really trade one for the other, but you get the point).  

 

The 450lb kid from Florida would about two times that challenge. 

 

I was talking about the 450 kid in that post

 

 

2 minutes ago, Krakensabres said:

The guy who weighed 290? We have like 4 of those guys….

 

Ty is a baller id take 10 of those guys over this bum, getting big 1 techs isnt hard too do unless your the bills

 

 

[Niagara Dude]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

 

 

The last 2 picks may have been Beane best draft choices since Allen,  I was not real happy with first 2 picks,  but I'm amazed at what he did with 3rd and 4th ruounders.  This gamecocks HC talking about walker just before playing Kentucky. Our D-LINE may be the best we have had in years

 

 

The Gamecocks are set to play one of the nation's best interior defensive lineman in Kentucky's Deone Walker. A player so good that South Carolina head coach Shane Beamer labeled Walker as a "Game Wrecker" in Tuesday's press conference.

Walker is a junior and projected first round pick for the Wildcats' defense. He routinely blows up plays and changes offensive schemes with an ideal blend of size, power, and athleticism. Coach Beamer talked about Walker's rare blend of traits and how that makes him special. 

"There's a reason people say he's going to be a top ten pick in the NFL draft. He's so big. Most big guys are big and just big, this guy is big and twitchy and big and athletic. He's got the twitch and wiggle to defeat double teams, make himself small if that's possible and split double teams. He's good at pass rush there's no question about it, but where he really scares people and scares us is in the run game. He's got our respect," Coach Beamer describes the Wildcats' defensive leader. 

 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Overly tall, underdeveloped lower body, back issues AND Joe Marino hates him … enough to make me skeptical 

[BillsPride12]

3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Can’t wait to hear this DT is too big.  We’re re-enacting the three little bears on here haha 

Best comment I've read on here in a long time 😄

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, bills_fan said:

No. I want that 450lb kid from Florida in the 7th. Seriously. 

 

The good news is our staff is already experienced at dealing with cardiac arrest on the field

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, Turk71 said:

Did they really need to move up again? Or is that just something Beane likes to do?

 Top heavy blob who stands up tall to get pushed around better. Lacks lower body strength to play with better leverage at point of attack. 

  Every single year they are rebuilding the d line while the NFL MVP once again has a below average wr group to throw to. A lot of people saying this wasn't the year for wrs, would it have even mattered if this was a great year for wrs? The best year for wrs the Bills took a big slow can't get open guy at the end of the first round....I guess that means they're good for a few more years. Once again we can talk about how great the d line is gonna be...until we find out they're not and then draft some more next year.

  This is groundhog day all over again...and once again the Bills wr corp is a bottom 3rd of the league group.   Go Bills!

sad we missed on Thornton but but perhaps Palmer will be a fine addition

[blacklabel]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

no ! Guy is weak with chicken legs, very tall for DT and gets pushed around easily

 

 

 

it happens but 200 would be too much 

 

 

Me too

 

i trust Joe over the Bills scouts. Do they not now how to scout DT ???

 

 

 

This Joe dude must be so wise. Nothing against him but I made the point earlier that none of these armchair analysts have access to these prospects the way pro teams do. Sure, they can tell a lot from the tape and the testing, but none of them are sitting there breaking down film with a position coach who might say, "We can fix that with coaching" nor have any of them sat down and been able to interview them and assess their personality, their intelligence, their passion for football, etc etc. They aren't able to sit there with the player and put a play up on the screen and ask, "Okay so walk us thru what happened here" but teams and pro scouting departments do. There are just too many extra variables these outside draft guys don't know to say "I think this guy is better at scouting than a guy who actually gets paid by a pro franchise" at least for me anyway. 

 

Again, Joe seems like a nice guy but his info is limited to game film.