2025 NFL Draft Thread : Rounds 4-7

[TFBillsfan]

10 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

This draft is actually really really solid if you can handle the face that we have drafted solely defense and I'm not sure we're done. We might need to hit up a LB with these last two picks.

Don’t disagree but outside of Hairston, everyone is defensive depth. Does that really improve our D much in 2025 when our goal is Super Bowl? Will Hairston as a rookie really be a significant upgrade over Rasul? For all the resources dedicated on the DL, McDermott loves his rotation so it’s difficult for anyone to really dominate. If an injury happens at LB, our backups outside of Williams are a significant liability and the tandem of Rapp and Bishop leave a lot to be desired. 
 

Really hope I’m wrong and the Bills truly crushed this draft but at this point it’s very much wait and see and hoping vs. expecting.

Edited Saturday at 08:08 PM by TFBillsfan

[OldTimer1960]

1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

Its called Cover 6 and yes I know about it. It was mostly a joke to you. The guys they drafted with the exception of Hairston probably aren't going to be on the field this year but hopefully next year. Still their depth is going to be impeccable compared to last year in the secondary. It was clear when Benford went down they were sunk last year.

They desperately needed a talent upgrade at corner.  Hairston should play a lot and Strong will compete for a backup spot with Dane Jackson and Jamarcus Ingram.  I think Dane might not make the roster.

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

Last thing I will say on Bond, just don’t want to have controversial convos…

 

Bills are one of the handful of teams who had him in for a top 30 before everything went crazy for him. We are also one of the only teams who did not draft a WR. Perhaps they have some sort of UDFA deal worked out. But outside of Bond I don’t think there are any difference makers left at that position. JMO

 

I think what makes it harder for us is prominent female owner in Kim and the way we dealt with Araiza (which was totally understandable and I know the timing of that played in...) which will be thrown at them if they take a different approach here

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Nitro said:

I am laughing because this team's defense got younger, stronger and faster.   Excellent draft so far.

In the first part, yes.  I really like the first 3 picks.  Should have went WR in the 4th. Use lower picks to trade back up in the 4th and take Deone Walker.

[Pete]

Still no WR that can take the top off.  The Bills have faced more man to man coverage than any other team- because no one respects our WRs.  We traded for Amari- because we got curb stomped by the Ravens- because they pressed our slow ass WR, pinched safety’s up, stuffed Cook, and beat up on Josh.  Texans did same and beat us.  Jets did same, and almost beat us.

 

The 2 losses were all due to zero separation.  That’s when we desperately traded for Amari.  Defenses were not as aggressive with Amari.  Space opened up, Cook got cookin.  Josh and offense were awesome for the rest of season.  
 

Amari opened up everything.  Amari is gone.  So is Mack. We added Palmer. Don’t we need 5 WR?   Is this the definition of insanity?  Where have you gone John Brown?

[HappyDays]

11 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

it has been the Bills Defense that has come up short in the playoffs.    

 

And this year we'll find out once and for all if it's talent or coaching. So there's that at least.

[PayDaBill$]

BB creating cap room with rooks 

[SoonerBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Just take the gamble on Isaiah Bond if he’s there @ 206?

Yes.  Who cares about the loss of the pick as it's so low.  

[FireChans]

Just now, Pete said:

Still no WR that can take the top off.  The Bills have faced more man to man coverage than any other team- because no one respects our WRs.  We traded for Amari- because we got curb stomped by the Ravens- because they pressed our slow ass WR, pinched safety’s up, stuffed Cook, and beat up on Josh.  Texans did same and beat us.  Jets did same, and almost beat us.

 

The 2 losses were all due to zero separation.  That’s when we desperately traded for Amari.  Defenses were not as aggressive with Amari.  Space opened up, Cook got cookin.  Josh and offense were awesome for the rest of season.  
 

Amari opened up everything.  Amari is gone.  So is Mack. We added Palmer. Don’t we need 5 WR?   Is this the definition of insanity?  Where have you gone John Brown?

No one loves this draft more than Smoke Brown. His phone may ring again by week 8.

[BillsFanForever19]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think what makes it harder for us is prominent female owner in Kim and the way we dealt with Araiza (which was totally understandable and I know the timing of that played in...) which will be thrown at them if they take a different approach here

 

And this is worse than Araiza. Araiza was cut and then went over a year without a team sniffing him on the mere possibility that he could still be charged criminally. That's already happened for Bond.

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Pete said:

Still no WR that can take the top off.  The Bills have faced more man to man coverage than any other team- because no one respects our WRs.  We traded for Amari- because we got curb stomped by the Ravens- because they pressed our slow ass WR, pinched safety’s up, stuffed Cook, and beat up on Josh.  Texans did same and beat us.  Jets did same, and almost beat us.

 

The 2 losses were all due to zero separation.  That’s when we desperately traded for Amari.  Defenses were not as aggressive with Amari.  Space opened up, Cook got cookin.  Josh and offense were awesome for the rest of season.  
 

Amari opened up everything.  Amari is gone.  So is Mack. We added Palmer. Don’t we need 5 WR?   Is this the definition of insanity?  Where have you gone John Brown?

This year teams will jam up our slow WR's and blitz. 

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

And this year we'll find out once and for all if it's talent or coaching. So there's that at least.

Well you could argue that last year we were bereft of talent in the secondary.  Very slow.

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said:

Don’t disagree but outside of Hairston, everyone is defensive depth. Does that really improve our D much? Will Hairston as a rookie really be a significant upgrade over Rasul? For all the resources dedicated on the DL, McDermott loves his rotation so it’s difficult for anyone to really dominate. If an injury happens at LB, our backups outside of Williams are a significant liability and the tandem of Rapp and Bishop leave a lot to be desired. 
 

Really hope I’m wrong and the Bills truly crushed this draft but at this point it’s very much wait and see and hoping vs. expecting.

 

I mean Jackson, Sanders, and Walker are probably not going to be starter this year but all 3 of them are going to be a large part of the defensive line rotation which you already talked about. It also allows them to finally put their monetary resources next year into something else. With Bosa, Epenesa, Jones, being free agents those guys no longer will cost us the X amount of dollars it took to fill a spot because they took these 3 guys. The secondary might not play a ton but it protects the Bills if one of their starting CB's goes down which unfortunately has happened two years in a row vs the Chiefs. Benford  both years and Douglas was playing on one leg in 2023.  The Bills are banking on their upgraded Dline and secondary being stout to shut teams down that they haven't typically done in the past.

[LEBills]

Give me some combination of Elijhah Badger, Tez Johnson and Ricky White with our last two picks. All can contribute in special teams and are better WRs than Coddrington is a “CB”

[OldTimer1960]

1 minute ago, TFBillsfan said:

Don’t disagree but outside of Hairston, everyone is defensive depth. Does that really improve our D much? Will Hairston as a rookie really be a significant upgrade over Rasul? For all the resources dedicated on the DL, McDermott loves his rotation so it’s difficult for anyone to really dominate. If an injury happens at LB, our backups outside of Williams are a significant liability and the tandem of Rapp and Bishop leave a lot to be desired. 
 

Really hope I’m wrong and the Bills truly crushed this draft but at this point it’s very much wait and see and hoping vs. expecting.

I think that TJ Sanders will really upgrade the interior pass rush with Oliver.  He likely will come in on obvious passing downs for this year, but those are money downs.  Deone Walker looked pretty bad last year, but was really good in 2023 - all conference first team in the SEC.  Hopefully, 2024 downturn was due to the back injury (hopefully healed).  If they get the 2023 Walker it will be a big win, but it could be a whiff as well.  Boom or bust guy, I think.

[T.E.]

Read the Isaiah Bond affidavit and then ask yourself if you would burn a pick on that guy. Seems there is text message evidence where he admitted to what she is accusing him of. He is probably more likely to be convicted of a serious crime than he is to be drafted.

[Ralonzo]

The model has been faithfully projecting Devin Neal to Buffalo at 206, but he just got drafted. Waiting for the refresh, but still thinking Brashard Smith would be nice.

 

Meanwhile this retired leprechaun brought his pot of black'n'gold to make the Steelers announcement, Will Howard QB

[Sojourner]

Kamara/Miller/Neal, exciting RB room

[chris heff]

Is it still possible to trade for a WR between now and September?

[Billzgobowlin]

8 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said:

We arguably are worse at WR without Cooper and Hollins

Palmer and Shenault are probably about the same talent wise