2025 NFL Draft Thread : Rounds 4-7

[LyndonvilleBill]

2 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Yes we did. Thanks to an all time season from Josh. Now two of his receivers left and the running back that helped him is at an impasse with the organization. I’m very happy we added some defense, but we couldn’t have have used a pick before the 7th on someone who will catch a pass? Hawes is basically a blocker

I loved Hollins,  but he wasn't a speed guy that we all want or need. As far as Cooper, his production, do you think we can't get it replaced? Who is the WR we lost that we can't live without or get the same production from elsewhere? 

[Bigvinny]

 

[Niagara Bill]

1 minute ago, Bigvinny said:

 

And this guy's view is important?

 

[LEBills]

7 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

I certainly wanted a WR in this draft but I'm not going to act like a rookie in the 3rd or 4th is the difference between us scoring 20ppg or 30.

Yes it likely doesn’t make a difference in one year. But when you keep drafting receivers each year, you eventually develop a more talented room and may actually draft a difference maker. We have not even really tried except for Coleman last year.

 

6 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

I loved Hollins,  but he wasn't a speed guy that we all want or need. As far as Cooper, his production, do you think we can't get it replaced? Who is the WR we lost that we can't live without or get the same production from elsewhere? 

 

What I’m saying is that you can’t expect that just because last year was great, that this year will be. I’d say that neither Hollins or Cooper has been replaced as underhelming as they were. At some point you need real talent rather than Jags like Shenault and Shavers who are our WR5 and 6. The reason we are at this place of people begging for WRs is because we barely ever draft them. The Chiefs keep drafting guys, the Eagles WR is stacked, the Lions have a star and former first rounder Williams and just drafted a guy in the third, the Ravens have two first round WRs even if Bateman isn’t great. Talented WRs are still important. And not having them makes things hard on Josh just like having a defense that gives up 31. 

[Maine-iac]

Just now, LEBills said:

Yes it likely doesn’t make a difference in one year. But when you keep drafting receivers each year, you eventually develop a more talented room and may actually draft a difference maker. We have not even really tried except for Coleman last year.

 

 

What I’m saying is that you can’t expect that just because last year was great, that this year will be. I’d say that neither Hollins or Cooper has been replaced as underhelming as they were. At some point you need real talent rather than Jags like Shenault and Shavers who are our WR5 and 6. The reason we are at this place of people begging for WRs is because we barely ever draft them. The Chiefs keep drafting guys, the Eagles WR is stacked, the Lions have a star and former first rounder Williams and just drafted a guy in the third, the Ravens have two first round WRs even if Bateman isn’t great. Talented WRs are still important. And not having them makes things hard on Josh just like having a defense that gives up 31. 

They took a swing on Cooper last year.  There might still be something up their sleeves.

[mikemac2001]

8 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

And this guy's view is important?

 

No it’s not 

[LyndonvilleBill]

4 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Yes it likely doesn’t make a difference in one year. But when you keep drafting receivers each year, you eventually develop a more talented room and may actually draft a difference maker. We have not even really tried except for Coleman last year.

 

 

What I’m saying is that you can’t expect that just because last year was great, that this year will be. I’d say that neither Hollins or Cooper has been replaced as underhelming as they were. At some point you need real talent rather than Jags like Shenault and Shavers who are our WR5 and 6. The reason we are at this place of people begging for WRs is because we barely ever draft them. The Chiefs keep drafting guys, the Eagles WR is stacked, the Lions have a star and former first rounder Williams and just drafted a guy in the third, the Ravens have two first round WRs even if Bateman isn’t great. Talented WRs are still important. And not having them makes things hard on Josh just like having a defense that gives up 31. 

We obviously have different views. I'm a defense guy and your an offense guy. Here's the thing. You're right. We haven't really done much for the WR room. BUT, you talk about KC and Detroit. Detroit lost in the championship game, same as us. KC lost to the Eagles because the Eagles defense. As the old saying goes, Defense wins Championships.😉😇😁

[Mike in Horseheads]

11 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

And this guy's view is important?

 

as important as any of the so called experts

[Aussie Joe]

15 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

And this guy's view is important?

 

I’m sure if he is wrong, he will come back and own it 

[Sojourner]

10 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

They took a swing on Cooper last year.  There might still be something up their sleeves.

You think they inquire about Pickens or Jameson Williams if indeed they are up for trade?

 

I know they come with some potentially huge baggage/issues but both are legit and proved so in this league. 
 

one just can’t do it consistently because of his attitude. the other because of health. 

[LEBills]

19 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

They took a swing on Cooper last year.  There might still be something up their sleeves.

Yes I applauded that, but still need them to try harder. Hopefully they have something in the works

 

13 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

We obviously have different views. I'm a defense guy and your an offense guy. Here's the thing. You're right. We haven't really done much for the WR room. BUT, you talk about KC and Detroit. Detroit lost in the championship game, same as us. KC lost to the Eagles because the Eagles defense. As the old saying goes, Defense wins Championships.😉😇😁

Yes all but one team lost lol yes the Eagles defense was good but all of Phillys offensive weapons helped against a good KC defense. I like both sides just feels like offense hasn’t been addressed as much

[LyndonvilleBill]

2 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Yes I applauded that, but still need them to try harder. Hopefully they have something in the works

 

Yes all but one team lost lol yes the Eagles defense was good but all of Phillys offensive weapons helped against a good KC defense. I like both sides just feels like offense hasn’t been addressed as much

Personally,  I think Diggs may have turned them off from a lot of receivers. No more Divas and just want team players without the hassle. They need a break from it.😉 JMO.

[LLCoolCy]

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

8 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

Personally,  I think Diggs may have turned them off from a lot of receivers. No more Divas and just want team players without the hassle. They need a break from it.😉 JMO.

I agree, but you still gotta take a swing sometime.

[LyndonvilleBill]

3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I agree, but you still gotta take a swing sometime.

I agree. I honestly think the team has something up their sleeve. Just a gut feeling, but, something more to come on the WR front.😉😇😁

[SoTier]

3 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Yes it likely doesn’t make a difference in one year. But when you keep drafting receivers each year, you eventually develop a more talented room and may actually draft a difference maker. We have not even really tried except for Coleman last year.

 

 

What I’m saying is that you can’t expect that just because last year was great, that this year will be. I’d say that neither Hollins or Cooper has been replaced as underhelming as they were. At some point you need real talent rather than Jags like Shenault and Shavers who are our WR5 and 6. The reason we are at this place of people begging for WRs is because we barely ever draft them. The Chiefs keep drafting guys, the Eagles WR is stacked, the Lions have a star and former first rounder Williams and just drafted a guy in the third, the Ravens have two first round WRs even if Bateman isn’t great. Talented WRs are still important. And not having them makes things hard on Josh just like having a defense that gives up 31. 

 

The Bills offense needed to be great last year because the defense wasn't.  The Bills felt that the DL and the defensive backfield needed serious attention.  I'm not going to argue with that.  Defense wins championships.   Moreover, the Bills did take an OL prospect and a blocking TE prospect to protect Allen.  A QB needs targets, but he needs protection more.   I'm among those who believe that KC would have 5 SB rings if they had protected Mahomes better against the Bucs and Eagles.

 

It's also possible that both Kincaid and Coleman, who both did not play particularly well after they came back from injury, improve considerably this coming season since they're both young players, and that would more than make up for the loss of Cooper and Hollins.

[Dr. Who]

9 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

I agree. I honestly think the team has something up their sleeve. Just a gut feeling, but, something more to come on the WR front.😉😇😁

Praying hands emoji.

[LEBills]

1 minute ago, SoTier said:

 

The Bills offense needed to be great last year because the defense wasn't.  The Bills felt that the DL and the defensive backfield needed serious attention.  I'm not going to argue with that.  Defense wins championships.   Moreover, the Bills did take an OL prospect and a blocking TE prospect to protect Allen.  A QB needs targets, but he needs protection more.   I'm among those who believe that KC would have 5 SB rings if they had protected Mahomes better against the Bucs and Eagles.

 

It's also possible that both Kincaid and Coleman, who both did not play particularly well after they came back from injury, improve considerably this coming season since they're both young players, and that would more than make up for the loss of Cooper and Hollins.

Yes protecting our franchise QB is good, I’m glad we finally figured that out. I hope Kincaid and Coleman do better too, but in case they don’t it would be nice to have a few talented players in the pipeline. I trust Josh to get much more out of resources than I do McDermott. I was very happy with day 1 and 2, just wanted something more for Josh today.

[DapperCam]

1 hour ago, Bigvinny said:

 

Well if this guy says so…my neighbor’s uncle’s nephew says we had a mid draft.

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

And this guy's view is important?

 

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