Bills 3rd Rnd pick in 2025 Draft : Landon Jackson - DE - Arkansas

[Shaw66]

26 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

The proof is always in the play but the Bills are better on paper. If this D-line comes together the Bills have the opportunity to be a shutdown d that ballhawks. Benford is a top 5 CB and Hairston has the ingredients to also be special. I suspect safety play will also improve for the Bills this year.  Let’s hope this comes together.

We can imagine a truly dominant defense, but I don't think that's likely.  I don't think a defense can be really dominant when the dline is built for speed and versatility.  However, I think last season the defense was good enough to get the Bills where they went, and this season it's the same guys with some improvements:

 

1. Cornerback should be better, and possibly much better.

2. Bosa, Ogunjobi, and the two draft picks yesterday should improve the d line. 

3. Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin all have another season under their belts. 

 

We should see a tougher defense all around. And if one or two of the rookies is really good early, it could be really good. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

The dude can’t run a shuttle drill get rid of him 😂

[finn]

11 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

Really like what we are doing on defense in this draft.  Big upgrades in athleticism.

I always wonder about that term. His RAS score is elite (speed, jumps, etc.), but he's universally described as "stiff," with little ability to bend or dip around the corner. To me, an athlete is someone who is fast and quick but also able to move effortlessly, like Bruce Smith or Von Miller. This guy reminds me more Phil Hansen. That's no insult, either. A nice player, but "athletic"? We need a term for "fast and quick but not particularly supple." 

Edited 8 hours ago by finn

[LEBills]

Jackson is a guy I would have accepted as our first rounder with all the smoke between him and the Bills pre-draft

 

Would have been very happy with him in the second. That we got him in the third is like we didn’t trade down at all, and with how quickly the Bills made the pick I think they agreed

 

I really like LJ. Dude is dedicated. Transformed his body. Really smart with how he handles every snap run or pass. Has one of the best surf techniques in the draft when defending the RPO. He is not an explosive rusher but he has good bend for his size, and he compresses the pocket which is what you want with all these running QBs. That he is landing with Rousseau and Bosa, some of the best run defenders and power rushers in the NFL, will help him grow even further. I have really high expectations for LJ. 

[Shaw66]

11 minutes ago, finn said:

I always wonder about that term. His RAS score is elite (speed, jumps, etc.), but he's universally described as "stiff," with little ability to bend or dip around the corner. To me, an athlete is someone who is fast and quick but also able to move effortlessly, like Bruce Smith or Von Miller. This guy reminds me more Phil Hansen. That's no insult, either. A nice player, but "athletic"? We need a term for "fast and quick but not particularly supple." 

I hear you, but in another sense, it just is very difficult to quantify great athleticism. I was in a discussion a couple of years ago about what it means to be "smooth" and it's not easy to describe. On top of that, we're all familiar with the notion that players playing speed is often different from their time to speed in the combine or other similar environments. The reality is that at the end of the day some players play beyond their statistical measures, and other players don't play up to them. In every case, it's necessary just to wait and see what they do when they get on the field.

[The Jokeman]

59 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

We can imagine a truly dominant defense, but I don't think that's likely.  I don't think a defense can be really dominant when the dline is built for speed and versatility.  However, I think last season the defense was good enough to get the Bills where they went, and this season it's the same guys with some improvements:

 

1. Cornerback should be better, and possibly much better.

2. Bosa, Ogunjobi, and the two draft picks yesterday should improve the d line. 

3. Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin all have another season under their belts. 

 

We should see a tougher defense all around. And if one or two of the rookies is really good early, it could be really good. 

You forgot we signed  Hoecht too in the Dline.

[BillsFooteball]

Love this pick and didn’t think he would be on board. Bills are doing a great job addressing the position of needs. 

[zow2]

Hearing this guy’s draft phone call with Beane and McDermott was epic.  He was crying real tears. This guy has some kind of “IT factor”….. I don’t think failure is an option. He might be a legendary Bills player when we look back 10 years from now.

[Chandler#81]

Here’s more real input from one who knows for all the uninformed newbs who joined my ignore list this morning.

 

[finn]

25 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I hear you, but in another sense, it just is very difficult to quantify great athleticism. I was in a discussion a couple of years ago about what it means to be "smooth" and it's not easy to describe. On top of that, we're all familiar with the notion that players playing speed is often different from their time to speed in the combine or other similar environments. The reality is that at the end of the day some players play beyond their statistical measures, and other players don't play up to them. In every case, it's necessary just to wait and see what they do when they get on the field.

Right. Trying to define athleticism is like defining pornography (according to Lewis Powell): You know it when you see it. 

[LyndonvilleBill]

3 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Here’s more real input from one who knows for all the uninformed newbs who joined my ignore list this morning.

 

He's my new favorite player. Just waiting for a Jersey.😁

[Chandler#81]

1 minute ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

He's my new favorite player. Just waiting for a Jersey.😁

Then you’ll love this!

 

[Gigs]

12 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Or McDermotts love child with a WMBA tall chick 🤣

With the new Jurassic World coming out, he's a tie in to the movie as the McD-Rex hybrid

[Amorgus]

2 hours ago, SoMAn said:

Good eye mate:

Apart from being Midnight Oil’s voice, he was once Australia’s Minister of Environment, or something like that. Their version of Secretary of Agriculture or EPA chair. 
Apparently, he couldn’t sleep. 

 

I thought this was one of the bands I'd never get to see live. As soon as I saw he retired from politics and got the band back together I flipped out and raced down to visit my best friend who lives about 40 minutes north of Philly and went to see them in Glenside.

 

The best part was I was checking their previous set lists and was a little sad I didn't see their epic "Jimmy Sharman's Boxers", a song about an indentured group of indigenous men that this jerk would take around the country and auction off for boxing matches against the highest bidder. I figured it was too deep a cut. Then halfway through the show I heard the beginning of it and got chills. Fantastic smaller venue show with a band that would've been on my bucket list forever if they hadn't broken up.

Edited 7 hours ago by Amorgus

[finn]

17 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Hearing this guy’s draft phone call with Beane and McDermott was epic.  He was crying real tears. This guy has some kind of “IT factor”….. I don’t think failure is an option. He might be a legendary Bills player when we look back 10 years from now.

I'm surprised all of them don't break down like Jackson. Think of the pressure on these young guys. National TV is watching as the picks go by, your family, friends, everyone you know in the world watching to see how worthy you are in the eyes of the professionals. How do you stay stoic? (And why should you?)

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:

We can imagine a truly dominant defense, but I don't think that's likely.  I don't think a defense can be really dominant when the dline is built for speed and versatility.  However, I think last season the defense was good enough to get the Bills where they went, and this season it's the same guys with some improvements:

 

1. Cornerback should be better, and possibly much better.

2. Bosa, Ogunjobi, and the two draft picks yesterday should improve the d line. 

3. Rapp, Bishop, Hamlin all have another season under their belts. 

 

We should see a tougher defense all around. And if one or two of the rookies is really good early, it could be really good. 

My expectations are way higher..

 

We have a Defensive HC, brought in some really respected defensive coaches and the guys we let walk/cut/traded were all pretty much liabilities for us last season.  
 

Turnovers aside, last years defense was gross. 
 

We’ve not brought in:

 

Joey Bosa

Landon Jackson

Michael Hoecht

 

TJ Sanders

Larry Ogunjobi

 

Max Hairston

Tre White

Dane Jackson

 

Cole Bishop and DeWayne Carter entering Year 2, for whatever they may or may not become.. if it’s gonna happen, we’ll see if this year for them.

 

Im expecting a Super Bowl caliber Defense, and it better be when we’re entering Day 3 of the Draft and Allen’s WR’s are Shakir, Coleman, Palmer and Samuel due to the need to allocate so much offseason resource to the Defense. 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Jackson was my 10th best available when we turned the card in and at least Revel (injury) and Bond (character) ranked above him were there because of not football reasons. So far Beane has taken my 8th BPA (Hairston); 7th BPA (Sanders); and 10th BPA (Jackson) and in each case there were 2 or 3 guys above them who were sliding because of injury or character issues. So at least from my perspective so far the Bills have been in the ballpark in terms of following the board.  

 

You do know Hairston also had character concerns which Beane addressed at the conference? Hairston also had a sexual assualt allegation on him.

[YoloinOhio]

Beane sure loves his RAS score guys

[Jauronimo]

13 hours ago, bigduke6 said:

dahell was that.  didnt look great.

That was him coming out of highschool I believe.  

 

 

[Shaw66]

1 hour ago, The Jokeman said:

You forgot we signed  Hoecht too in the Dline.

Right.  I knew there was someone else. 

 

As much as many of us, including me, say we want the Bills to take a classic one-tech monster of a man, it's completely clear that that is not how McBeane intend for the this team to play. It's all about tough-minded athletic guys.  They 8 or 10 of them to rotate, mix and match.  

 

If that's the model, well, we have to live with it.  And if that's the model, it looks like this year they've loaded up, better than ever, with guys who fit the mold. 

58 minutes ago, finn said:

Right. Trying to define athleticism is like defining pornography (according to Lewis Powell): You know it when you see it. 

I'm not so good evaluating football talent. I'm pretty good at pornography.