Shedur Sanders Make To Round 5? (Poll) - UPDATED x 3

[Thrivefourfive]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Deion literally talked about dictating who his son would play for. 
 

Why would Beane, or any GM, want that?

 

Being a HC/GM and needing to take calls from a helicopter parent every day about his son who isn’t even that good..

I think we agree. But can’t say that teams are sticking it to Deion. I think teams know he’s a terrible top draft prospect. Has nothing to do with dad or the circus, upfront. All that just piles onto the No Thanks column. 

3 minutes ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said:

Collusion delusion…if he was a slam dunk, he would have been drafted by now.

The Browns traded for Mr. Baggage, that is how desperate teams are for a QB.

 

Right. Sanders can’t play. 

[Simon]

19 minutes ago, SCBills said:

but throws well on time, clean pocket, good ability to read defenses

 

This is not even remotely true; he's constantly late because he doesn't read defenses.

If it were even close to true, he'd have been drafted by now.

[muppy]

1 minute ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said:

Collusion delusion…if he was a slam dunk, he would have been drafted by now.

The Browns traded for Mr. Baggage, that is how desperate teams are for a QB.

 

yeah I'm not buying collusion either.  The Sanders will need to suck it up and face reality. Not everything  is  a conspiracy.

 

Learn and  grow from your mistakes  and move forward. Or if you have the  metal to want to prove yourself and shock the world PLEASE do that too.

 

 

[davefan66]

One could think that this would inject a little humility in this young kid. The wait and what’s being said could help lend a little introspection for him.

 

I’d be on board with that. If this kid turned out good and this was the fuel.

 

Problem is, Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.  The overbearing daddy behind you. Just don’t believe humility will be any part of his future.

 

I don’t wish him I’ll will. Just was very tired of deions act when he was a player, and especially his run as his sons coach.

[Thrivefourfive]

Sanders Jr. is “Legendary” 🤣🤣 

 

All the talking heads have to save their jobs today. They’ll blame everyone for everything, and never admit that they can’t evaluate for *****. Sanders wasnt drafted because he has nothing that pops on film, nor measurables. They blame collusion 🤣 race 🤣 RACE! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I know it’s just sports. But it’s how half the country thinks about other things too. It’s a bigger problem in this country. All I’m gonna say. 
 

Edited 11 hours ago by Thrivefourfive

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Good thing Colorado retired his jersey 🤷‍♂️

[SCBills]

Just now, Simon said:

 

This is not even remotely true; he's constantly late because he doesn't read defenses.

If it were even close to true, he'd have been drafted by now.

Field Yates and Daniel Jeremiah have both done segments on his strengths and the fact that (in a clean pocket) he’s on time, in rhythm and sees the field very well in reading coverage and throwing to the open zone.

 

Shadeur’s issue is that he crumbles under any pressure from the opposing defense and is a complete spaz off platform leading to turnovers and 15 yard sacks.

 

Combine that with lack of size, mobility and arm strength and he’s a very average prospect. 
 

But he can operate at a decently high level in rhythm/clean pocket and there’s a ton of tape of him throwing darts down the field by dissecting the coverage scheme under those conditions. 

[Thrivefourfive]

3 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

This is not even remotely true; he's constantly late because he doesn't read defenses.

If it were even close to true, he'd have been drafted by now.

Ya mean you don’t like the ‘pro’ column marker: “but his oline sucked”?! 🤣🤣

 

That’s actually what I’m hearing from real people- That a reason he should have been a top ten pick is because his oline sucked!

 

Delusion

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, Simon said:

 

This is not even remotely true; he's constantly late because he doesn't read defenses.

If it were even close to true, he'd have been drafted by now.

Since I live in Colorado, I saw a lot of Buffs football in the Coach Prime era (a whole 2 years). This is the point. He has athletic talent, at least a pretty good arm, and can succeed in the right offense. But inability to read defenses led directly to the inordinate number of sacks he took. It’s hard to imagine that a guy with his  athleticism would take so many sacks, but that’s where it is. 
The social aspect of this is that once NFL GMs decided that he wasn’t a Game 1 starter, they had to address whether he could fit as a backup. And he obviously failed that test for, well, obvious reasons. 

[NeverOutNick]

I did bet $3 on Sanders to Jacksonville before round 2. It’s +10000 so $300 here we come 

[Thrivefourfive]

Just now, SCBills said:

Field Yates and Daniel Jeremiah have both done segments on his strengths and the fact that (in a clean pocket) he’s on time, in rhythm and sees the field very well in reading coverage and throwing to the open zone.

 

Shadeur’s issue is that he crumbles under any pressure from the opposing defense and is a complete spaz off platform leading to turnovers and 15 yard sacks.

 

Combine that with lack of size, mobility and arm strength and he’s a very average prospect. 
 

But he can operate at a decently high level in rhythm/clean pocket and there’s a ton of tape of him throwing darts down the field by dissecting the coverage scheme under those conditions. 

Had to explain to wife that I COULD COMPLETE A PASS TO TRAVIS HUNTER.

 

If I could gather my nerves to take a shotgun snap in front of thousands at the Buffalo Stadium place to grip the ball and throw it in Travis Hunter’s direction, no matter the coverage, Hunter could steal the ball from the defender(s). 

Throwing from a clean pocket?! A high school starter can do that. Can’t put that in a ‘pro’ column for drafting an NFL QB. Just cannot. No team takes that take seriously. Obviously. 

3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Since I live in Colorado, I saw a lot of Buffs football in the Coach Prime era (a whole 2 years). This is the point. He has athletic talent, at least a pretty good arm, and can succeed in the right offense. But inability to read defenses led directly to the inordinate number of sacks he took. It’s hard to imagine that a guy with his  athleticism would take so many sacks, but that’s where it is. 
The social aspect of this is that once NFL GMs decided that he wasn’t a Game 1 starter, they had to address whether he could fit as a backup. And he obviously failed that test for, well, obvious reasons. 

No. Not pretty good. Average. Thank you. 
 

[RichRiderBills]

I just tuned in and they are still tooting the horn that he'd be a great fit in La with McVay. I just don't understand this doesn't McVeigh like strong arm quarterbacks.... cerebral? 

 

Didn't they get rid of goff because his arm wasn't strong enough?

 

Again, this just seems like wishful thinking. I don't know why there is such a Sanders bias in the media. I think they all just want access to Dion so they're kissing his butt

[Albany,n.y.]

29 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

They already have their story: NFL collusion to keep him out of the early rounds. The internet is currently teeming with commentary of this being a race issue. That’s  gotta make Cam Ward feel a certain way. 

Very similar to the 1978 NFL draft. People have bought into Warren Moon's story for decades that nobody in the NFL would play him at QB because of his race, somehow forgetting the facts that Moon signed with the CFL BEFORE the NFL draft (the real reason he went undrafted) & that Doug Williams, the 1st QB selected in the 1978 draft, was a 1st round pick the same year.  

[Thrivefourfive]

13 minutes ago, davefan66 said:

One could think that this would inject a little humility in this young kid. The wait and what’s being said could help lend a little introspection for him.

 

I’d be on board with that. If this kid turned out good and this was the fuel.

 

Problem is, Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.  The overbearing daddy behind you. Just don’t believe humility will be any part of his future.

 

I don’t wish him I’ll will. Just was very tired of deions act when he was a player, and especially his run as his sons coach.

I believe the problem is people are saying it’s RACE, COLLUSION, etc. He wont ever get it. He’ll never see that he’s not good enough. He’ll never be a good starter. And he’ll jive with the group that demands HE GIT SCREWED by the league, by teams, by GMs, by coaches. 
 

4 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Very similar to the 1978 NFL draft. People have bought into Warren Moon's story for decades that nobody in the NFL would play him at QB because of his race, somehow forgetting the facts that Moon signed with the CFL BEFORE the NFL draft (the real reason he went undrafted) & that Doug Williams, the 1st QB selected in the 1978 draft, was a 1st round pick the same year.  

Both STUDS. What’s Sanders do that even remotely close to those special special talents 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Thrivefourfive

[HappyDays]

46 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

That’s  gotta make Cam Ward feel a certain way. 

 

You know I've been thinking Ward and the Titans are the biggest beneficiaries of this whole fiasco. Has there ever been less buzz over a #1 overall QB? They get to dodge all the usual scrutiny that comes with such a selection because the media is too busy paying attention to the circus.

[Thrivefourfive]

50 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said:

 

So it sounds like that problem isn't unique to Shedeur then no? Nfl offices can deal with the outside noise, the problem is how the player himself dealt with the process

OBJ had hall of fame talent 🤣🤣🤣 This Sanders thing is just so laughable on so many levels 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

13 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Sanders Jr. is “Legendary” 🤣🤣 

 

All the talking heads have to save their jobs today. They’ll blame everyone for everything, and never admit that they can’t evaluate for *****. Sanders wasnt drafted because he has nothing that pops on film, nor measurables. They blame collusion 🤣 race 🤣 RACE! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I know it’s just sports. But it’s how half the country thinks about other things too. It’s a bigger problem in this country. All I’m gonna say. 
 

Your post is literally the first time I have heard this about race (also the people who complain about everything being so race driven love bringing up race).

 

As someone who felt Sanders could develop into a nfl starter, race has never once entered my mind. It’s about his attitude and his family. I will never believe purely football wise, Gabriel and the 40 year old the Saints drafted are better prospects than Sanders.  I also completely not wanting to deal with Sanders and him really needing to mature into be a leader. 
 

I think this could be the best thing for him. He gets humbled and can learn without the pressure of being a franchise guy. But that Colorado team besides him and Hunter pretty much sucked. And those two guys almost single handedly made them into a respectable program. He also did the same at SCSU. 

[Thrivefourfive]

56 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

The TV people are just pissed that they are not going to get that easy narrative to push all summer. It would have been a constant story, carrying the sports talk universe through the doldrums of June and July. Now they have to come up with actual content. They don't like that.

He’ll be around on some team. They’ll have their stories. This is a win for media. PLENTY to talk about with this. They’re delusional. It’s a negative in a big fat way

[YoloinOhio]

This is getting out of hand 🤣💀

https://www.si.com/nfl/shedeur-sanders-got-pranked-caller-pretending-gm-nfl-draft?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR68Ox6zqIQ3W2oPtL63c111vjpBggWvBueZGhuqAMbnzgPXqHtL281R36pE0Q_aem_dYW2pFnrGp78pCxAZG8q2w

[Buffalo Junction]

12 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:

I just tuned in and they are still tooting the horn that he'd be a great fit in La with McVay. I just don't understand this doesn't McVeigh like strong arm quarterbacks.... cerebral? 

 

Didn't they get rid of goff because his arm wasn't strong enough?

 

Again, this just seems like wishful thinking. I don't know why there is such a Sanders bias in the media. I think they all just want access to Dion so they're kissing his butt

Goff has plenty of arm. They got rid of him because when he’s pressured and goes off platform he turns the ball over or takes bad sacks. It’s the reason why he has a Peterson like turnover game every season.