LEBills Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) Man I’m excited for this pick Beane went to the South Carolina pro day and then they hosted Sanders for a 30 visit. They have been interested for a long time. Not only is he a good pass rusher, but compared to other upper tier pass rushers in this draft, his run defense is good enough to be a three down player. Alfred Collins I liked for his athleticism and run stopping, but his pass rush is limited and there were rumors teams were concerned with this injuries. He is also going to be 24 in October. Darius Alexander was another option with many fans and is a closer comp to Sanders. But Alexander did not become a starter at Toledo until 2023 and will be 25 this year. Besides them you have Omar Norman Lott who is a very good pass rusher, but even Tennessee tried to keep him off the field on run downs. Shemar Turner is a converted DE and is much smaller than Sanders. In addition, athletically he ran a sub 5.0 40 with a sub 1.7 10 yard split at over 295 pounds. That is the athletic profile you want from a DT as it is similar to many of the best DTs of the last 10 years. You draft pass rush early in the draft, especially if they can somewhat stop the run. Sanders gives us that. If we want a 320 plus run stopper - Cam Horsely, Cam Jackson, Nazir Stackhouse, Eric Gregory - are all still available and probably will be until round 5 or 6. Edited 11 hours ago by LEBills 5 1 Quote
Prospector Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Deone Walker is still available for a 1 tech 1 Quote
Maine-iac Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Prospector said: Deone Walker is still available for a 1 tech Deone Walker is a 1tech like Jordan Phillips (who played for us) is a 1tech. Quote
MPT Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 9 hours ago, Low Positive said: The reason the Eagles got to Mahomes is that they have a great secondary that forced him to hold the ball for another second. No defensive line, no matter how great, gets home in less than 2 seconds. It's obviously both. But the key is that the Eagles get pressure with 4 linemen (yes, in two seconds) and they can keep all of their back 7 in coverage and force him to make a throw before he can think or before his receivers get open. We had a great secondary last year. It didn't matter against good QBs because they stood in the pocket for 6 seconds while our defensive line was out to lunch. Quote
HappyDays Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 12 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: I don’t understand a lot hate on this thread You can predict the fanbase's reaction to a pick by how often that player was mocked to the Bills. Seriously. A CB was a common 1st round pick in mocks but not usually Hairston so the reaction was somewhat mixed. No one mocked Sanders or any 3T to the Bills high so fans mostly hated that pick. Jackson was mocked to us by just about everybody so fans universally loved the pick. 4 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 15 minutes ago, BillsFooteball said: I don’t understand a lot hate on this thread. Sanders fits a need and can get to the QB. You add in Jackson and hell of a night last night. So only complaint is not big run stuffer? We didn’t give up to much trade value, all charts price this. We will draft a 1T today Notice the Bills went for very productive players in the SEC all 3 rounds. I don't think that was by accident. 2 2 Quote
Draconator Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Is that a new strain of weed? I'm out of the loop these days Commercial that's been playing during the draft on NFL Network Quote
MarlinTheMagician Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I think those names are a reminder that to this point, Beane/McDermott have done one thing, and one thing only, that previous regimes didn't. That's to find a franchise QB. A league MVP player. But we're already 1/2 way through his career with no championships to show for it yet. 8 years later with the same issues and problems since day one. Can't stop the run against physical offenses and can't hold a lead in criticsl spots. Let's hope this season is different with the group of free agent signings and draft picks. Done one thing only: Two championship games, five division titles and players like Milano, Dawkins, Tre White, Shakir, Kincaid, Bernard, Micah Hyde, Benford, Spencer Brown, Torrence, Poyer, Cook, Oliver, Rousseau, Taron Johnson, John Brown, Cole Beasley, Diggs, among others, are decent players they have brought here, and they all say hello. 3 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: You can predict the fanbase's reaction to a pick by how often that player was mocked to the Bills. Seriously. A CB was a common 1st round pick in mocks but not usually Hairston so the reaction was somewhat mixed. No one mocked Sanders or any 3T to the Bills high so fans mostly hated that pick. Jackson was mocked to us by just about everybody so fans universally loved the pick. We don’t have minimum age here. You need only be able to work a keyboard. 1 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 9 hours ago, MPT said: The Eagles have a 340 pound monster at DT. That's why they can wreck Mahomes without blitzing and we can't even get within spitting distance if we send the entire front 7. Many here just don't get it. Although I read on this board that Jordan Davis had a disappointing career. But he was a MANster in the Superbowl so maybe not so disappointing Quote
MarlinTheMagician Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 21 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: Deone Walker is a 1tech like Jordan Phillips (who played for us) is a 1tech. Stackhouse, Cam Jackson, Zeek Biggers - there are run stuffers out there. Walker - sounds like he has a quick 1st step but can't destruct double teams because he plays too high. Can be coached some, but some analysts say he will always play high given his height and lack of bend. Not a crazy shot at this point in the draft though. We could even take two of those guys and let them fight it out for a spot. Edited 10 hours ago by MarlinTheMagician typo Quote
SCBills Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 11 minutes ago, HappyDays said: You can predict the fanbase's reaction to a pick by how often that player was mocked to the Bills. Seriously. A CB was a common 1st round pick in mocks but not usually Hairston so the reaction was somewhat mixed. No one mocked Sanders or any 3T to the Bills high so fans mostly hated that pick. Jackson was mocked to us by just about everybody so fans universally loved the pick. Yup. Fans would’ve loved Trey Amos at 30 because Cover 1 is obsessed with him. The dude almost fell to RD3. Quote
MPT Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Jordan Davis played 14 snaps in the super bowl, and is a 2 down run defender. Who also had a sack and multiple pressures. The Chiefs only had 17 snaps by halftime and the game was over. Imagine a team having a run stuffer who can also collapse the pocket? What a nightmare! Quote
Maine-iac Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Stackhouse, Cam Jackson, Zeek Biggers - there are run stuffers out there. Walker - sounds like he has a quick 1st step but can't destruct double teams because he plays too high. Can be coached some, but some analysts say he will always play high given his height and lack of bend. Not a crazy shot at this point in the draft though. We could even take two of those guys and let them fight it out for a spot. I actually think Biggers isn't a bad late late round pick but my guess is they'll just keep Logue on the practice squad and call him up now and then. We'll continue have anxiety about stopping the run on a week to week basis. That said we should be a nightmare on passing downs. Quote
Simon Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Many here just don't get it. Although I read on this board that Jordan Davis had a disappointing career. But he was a MANster in the Superbowl so maybe not so disappointing He played 14 snaps in the Super Bowl 1 1 Quote
Nihilarian Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago This team needed big-time defensive help in both the defensive line and secondary. Looks good so far, and I like that Jackson kid as he looks like a monster! 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 52 minutes ago, Simon said: He played 14 snaps in the Super Bowl You can’t let facts dictate rational though homie. Edited 9 hours ago by nedboy7 1 Quote
White Linen Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said: Not surprised Ever how much you should be. 1 Quote
Maine-iac Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, MPT said: Who also had a sack and multiple pressures. The Chiefs only had 17 snaps by halftime and the game was over. Imagine a team having a run stuffer who can also collapse the pocket? What a nightmare! Imagine your pass rush not having to stop on the way to the QB because your DT's are getting thrown out of the club. 2 minutes ago, Simon said: He played 14 snaps in the Super Bowl Eagles took a 24 to nothing lead at the half and the Chiefs only ran 17 plays so if Jordan Davis only played 14 plays I'm not surprised. Chiefs RB's only had 7 carries all game. Wonder why they don't run the ball vs the Eagles but have 35 carries (24 by RB's) vs us? 1 1 Quote
Simon Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago Just now, Maine-iac said: Wonder why they don't run the ball vs the Eagles Just now, Maine-iac said: Eagles took a 24 to nothing lead at the half I think you answered your own question. 2 Quote
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