Bills 2nd Rnd pick in 2025 Draft : TJ Sanders - DT South Carolina

[FireChans]

13 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Except we have only lost one game by 7 or more points in that entire sample. It’s not like teams are just running to run out the clock. They’re running to keep the ball away from our offense and to control the game. This isn’t a result of correlation at all. It’s how teams attack us and have been doing so for years. It just doesn’t matter that much when we have a 20 point lead.

Huh?

 

Just bar napkin remembering, we got blown out in Ravens1 last season. We were also down double digits for what feels like the entire Bengals 2022 divisional round

 

We only lost one game by 7+ is just completely wrong lol.

 

Not to mention a couple of those games the Bills were down two scores, scored at the end to make it seem a bit closer and lost anyway.

 

Listen, I don’t want to say “run defense means nothing,”

 

but some of our worst offensive performances are at the top of that list. That contributed to losing too. ESPECIALLY on the turnover side of things, which is also super strongly correlated to losses.

 

Baltimore is in the top 10 of that chart like 3 times and has a 1-2 record vs the Bills. Do we think that has anything to do with the fact they are constantly one of the top rushing teams in the NFL?

Edited Saturday at 04:59 PM by FireChans

[3rdand12]

48 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

We've spent how many picks on DE's and DT's?  I can think of one time a player drafted by Beane led the team in sacks.  They draft DE's for their run stopping ability and DT's for their pass rushing ability.  We end up with DE's who get 7 or 8 sacks and DT's who get 5 sacks and we hold our breath against teams that run the ball well.  It's the system we run.  Oliver is a great 3 tech.  Sanders looks like he'll be a good 3 tech.  Same with the other DT's.  Problem is habitually our "plan" for stopping the run is perfect execution on every play and keeping Zion Logue on the practice squad and calling him up a few times a year.  If Sanders turns out to be a great pass rusher it will be a win over Carter and if he can sure up the run that will be a bonus.

I think more than a few of Us sit on the side of the fence that says tweaking the Defense up front with big dudes who don't get moved would free up our speedy read and react LBs. Allow CBs to play more press off the snap

 I don't feel McBeanes sees it my way  lol

Draft aint over nor FA and players shaking free later to fill some needs left though.

[JoeF]

Put on 8 lbs between the combine on Pro Day (297 to 305) - Still ran a 4.95 40 at 305 lbs.  He was a talented hoop kid averaging 18 PPG and 12 RPG as a junior - did not play HS Football until his junior year.  

[3rdand12]

25 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Well yeah. Rushing yards are correlated with winning. There’s lots of reasons for that. Like teams with big leads run the football a lot.

 

Correlation doesn’t equal causation.

 

Every team is going to have a similar chart. Because a lot of teams losses will also be games they get run on a lot. 

Those stats are all context. Like so much of statistics.

[billieve420]

Coming around on the pick. Him and Oliver rushing from the inside on obvious passing downs could wreck havoc together.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

17 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

It could be worse…we could have been like the Fins, and traded up for a guard- giving up their 3rd and 4th rounder picks…😂😂

 

Have you guys learned nothing over the last 7 years???

 

You know you can’t trust Beane for an entire draft- and especially when it comes to D line…😉

 

 

 

Ive come around on this pick but Deon walker was THE NUMBER ONE pick that Joe Marino didnt want 🙈🙈🙉🙉🙊🙊

 

 

[TPS]

22 hours ago, Bag of Milk said:

During the Bills  phone call with Sanders after they selected him, I found it interesting that Pegula told him that the Bills had been " trying to trade up for him for like the last 20 picks"

Don't know if I'd call that interesting, it was very odd.  I mean, their first pick was at 30 and they took Hairston, so they were trying to get him before they got Hairston. Just a weird comment.

[PrimeTime101]

23 hours ago, Bag of Milk said:

During the Bills  phone call with Sanders after they selected him, I found it interesting that Pegula told him that the Bills had been " trying to trade up for him for like the last 20 picks"

I listened to the phone calls online.. got a link to him saying that? cause I can not find it anywhere. 

[Joe Marino]

4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

I listened to the phone calls online.. got a link to him saying that? cause I can not find it anywhere. 

 

[Mat68]

8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Ive come around on this pick but Deon walker was THE NUMBER ONE pick that Joe Marino didnt want 🙈🙈🙉🙉🙊🙊

 

 

I think the back injury adds context on his play his senior year.   Big SOB.  15 to 20 snaps can he be a problem?  Will be able to learn from Jones.  I like what Buffalo did up front. 

[PrimeTime101]

31 minutes ago, Joe Marino said:

 

thanks

[Warriorspikes51]

4 hours ago, Mat68 said:

I think the back injury adds context on his play his senior year.   Big SOB.  15 to 20 snaps can he be a problem?  Will be able to learn from Jones.  I like what Buffalo did up front. 

Jones is done IMO

[Mike R]

On 4/25/2025 at 8:27 PM, BuffaloBillies said:

297 is 3 away from 300. If he was listed as 300 would posters still say "undersized"? He can gain 3 at lunch tomorrow. They can get him 10-20 lbs heavier if they want. It's all good

He could’ve taken a 3 lb dump just before weigh for all we know.

[Doc]

4 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Jones is done IMO

Yep. They are probably waiting for June 1st to release him after which point he will save $5.5 million against the cap.

[Doc]

Same for Logue, who will save $1M.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

11 hours ago, Mat68 said:

I think the back injury adds context on his play his senior year.   Big SOB.  15 to 20 snaps can he be a problem?  Will be able to learn from Jones.  I like what Buffalo did up front. 

 

i hope so, im tired of the busts we've drafted at DT , Harrison Phillips is the best DT we've drafted and we let go . Oliver is also subpar

 

 

[billsfan89]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

i hope so, im tired of the busts we've drafted at DT , Harrison Phillips is the best DT we've drafted and we let go . Oliver is also subpar

 

 

Oliver is a very good player, you could argue has he been good enough for a top 10 pick but let’s not pretend Oliver isn’t a good player. The Lions had a top 2 Offensive line last season and Oliver took over that game. Yeah Ed’s had some bad or subpar games too but that’s dam near every single defensive player 

[TBBills Fan]

On 4/26/2025 at 11:32 AM, Simon said:

 

He's already up over 300 and that is likely to keep going up by the time the season starts, imo.

Hes a grower not a show'er as it relates to combine weight?

[VW82]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

Yep. They are probably waiting for June 1st to release him after which point he will save $5.5 million against the cap.

 

Why would we do that without seeing what everyone looks like in camp? TJ and Deone (coming off a back injury) are rookies, and Carter is a projection until we see it.  

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, VW82 said:

Why would we do that without seeing what everyone looks like in camp? TJ and Deone (coming off a back injury) are rookies, and Carter is a projection until we see it.  

 

Because Jones is washed and saves a good amount of money.