Bills 2nd Rnd pick in 2025 Draft : TJ Sanders - DT South Carolina

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

We wasn’t good enough to demand a 2nd contract?  lol @ the things that you lean on.  
 

He was good enough that another team paid him 26M per season.    
 

carry on.  
 

Get us off the field on 3rd down in the playoffs and it’ll be worth the trade up.  No one has been able to do that for Josh Allen.  Inside pass rush.  Beane wanted it and he got it with the best one remaining.  That had a cost because staying where we were, I doubt he’d have been there. 
 

You hate it.  I get it.  It’s all very predictable 
 

 

Yeah they didn’t pay him.

 

I mean sure. If we win the Super Bowl, there’s nothing to complain about. 
 

On its face, I still think it’s bad strategy. I think it’s bad strategy to pay Saquon $20M but I guess the Eagles won the Super Bowl so hey

[Taro Nimbus]

Boy!   It’s shocking that so many people here don’t have a job as a GM, seeing they know more than the Bills front office.  🤷🏻‍♂️

[NewEra]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

It was a hypothetical 80%.

 

The point was, given three options:

 

Taking player X at our original position who may be able to be a full time starter

 

Taking player Y at our original position who will likely be more of a rotational piece 

 

Trading EXTRA CAPITAL to move up to take player Z who will likely be more of a rotational piece

 

the option I like least as a draft strategy is option 3.

Trading extra capital to draft a player that you’ll eventually call a bad pick.  Then we’d listen to you tell us how we should’ve traded up to get a difference maker.  Because that’s what this team is missing.  Impact players.  But it seems that only players that play 80% of the snaps can be an impact player.  

[Shaw66]

5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Fair, and Beane literally said that in his last interview before the draft...alluding to having a higher priority on secondary help than DL for those reasons heading into the draft essentially.  But DT was def still a need, we need to get off the field on 3rd downs...near last in the league was a massive issue.  Getting more guys on the DL to just get us off the field one or two more times a game puts us literally in the SB this year and past KC in our last 3 losses.  

 

So if TJ can just impact 3rd downs and help our front guys affect the play and get us off the field more, thats a pretty important aspect we have literally been devoid of.  

 

I get what you are saying...but its not 80% of the snaps we are struggling the most - its those 3rd down plays where we give up 3rd and long because our corners failed and our front guys got no pressure.  First 2 picks literally were to change those very things, which is what helped Philly dominate KC a game after we got embarrassed nearly every 3rd down by KC.  

 

Will it work?  We will see, but I get the intent here.  

I think that if we could ask Beane, he would say that the Bills' objective is to have eight or ten defensive linemen, ALL of whom would start on most other teams.  I think they really think they have eight or ten starters who share the job. That's what their objective is. They want to come at the offensive line with waves of talent. 

 

I can't explain it other than that.  

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

It was a hypothetical 80%.

 

 

 

Oh, so you have no real answer, you're just making up any number that helps you complain? Dang, I was hoping for a real answer because sometimes you have good ones.

 

Ok, proceed with your complaining over hypotheticals. Enjoy!

[SoonerBillsFan]

Pass rush from the other DT spot.  Good pick

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Yeah they didn’t pay him.

 

I mean sure. If we win the Super Bowl, there’s nothing to complain about. 
 

On its face, I still think it’s bad strategy. I think it’s bad strategy to pay Saquon $20M but I guess the Eagles won the Super Bowl so hey

Yeah, sorry, he only helped them win a Super Bowl. 
 

that’s fine- we all knew you’d find this to be a bad strategy 

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Trading extra capital to draft a player that you’ll eventually call a bad pick.  Then we’d listen to you tell us how we should’ve traded up to get a difference maker.  Because that’s what this team is missing.  Impact players.  But it seems that only players that play 80% of the snaps can be an impact player.  

I feel like you’re not really reading my posts. This feels axe-grindy. Best of luck to you and go Bills!

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Oh, so you have no real answer, you're just making up any number that helps you complain? Dang, I was hoping for a real answer because sometimes you have good ones.

 

Ok, proceed with your complaining over hypotheticals. Enjoy!

Okay fine 60-70% lol. Is this really that hard to follow?

 

Over under on TJ’s snap count % is set at 39%. Place your bets.

Edited 10 hours ago by FireChans

[K D]

3 minutes ago, Taro Nimbus said:

Boy!   It’s shocking that so many people here don’t have a job as a GM, seeing they know more than the Bills front office.  🤷🏻‍♂️

Autodraft knows more than the Bills front office. Eagles have their draft sent to pick bpa and look at them vs our draft picks. Beane just isn't good at the top of the draft

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Okay fine 60% lol. Is this really that hard to follow?

 

Over under on TJ’s snap count % is set at 39%. Place your bets.

 

Which position plays at least 60% of the snaps that you wanted us to draft? And which player?

 

This just feels axe-grindy against Beane.

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by DrDawkinstein

[C.Biscuit97]

Just now, Taro Nimbus said:

Boy!   It’s shocking that so many people here don’t have a job as a GM, seeing they know more than the Bills front office.  🤷🏻‍♂️

As someone used to say these things, I think it gets overstated and nfl front offices aren’t infallible. We have one of the best ones in the nfl but there have been plenty of mistakes as well.

 

im not speaking on Sanders because I genuinely don’t know much about him. So hopefully he turns out to be a stud. Don’t really understand the trade up. Also, I think the Bills’ hands were for ex because they signed two guys with PED suspensions.  
 

the bills make far more good than bad moves. But while I’ll blindly trust them on D backs, there are plenty of reasons to doubt them on d linemen. It hasn’t been a great track record. Hopefully Sanders turns into a stud. 

[Joe Marino]

23 minutes ago, die hard bills fan said:

Where's the beef.

It all went to the Dolphins. 2 rounds in a row.

[LEBills]

 

[Rock-A-Bye Beasley]

Shemar Turner taken by the Bears. Could be better than Sanders. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Trey Amos, who plenty of this board wanted at #30 overall and who TBD picked at #30 overall in our first mock, just went #61 overall.

 

So lets all pump our genius brakes.

[Stenbar]

50 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Amazing - this kid has been a Bill for all of 10 minutes and already has a false fan myth - "He is too small"

 

I don't know who needs to hear this (although it seems to be most of you) - but he is not undersized or small...not to mention he just said he is comfortable playing at 310 without losing any of his explosiveness.  

 

That is neither undersized or small.

 

 

The last Bills draft pick where I said " he is huge, gonna be our starter at his position for 10 plus years." was Mike Williams..LOL.. I am more disappointed in the position as I really wanted the Bills to trade up for Emanwori, I thought he would do so much more for our defense than any other player out there and even with our 30th pick.

[JaCrispy]

That chiefs fan reminds me of Sid from Toy Story…🤣🤣🤣

[In Summary]

So now that this pick is done, let's draft our next actual 1-tech. 

[Matt_In_NH]

10 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

I said mastered?  It's almost exactly what you said.  

 

K, ready?  Oliver is a good player.

See how that works?

[FireChans]

2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Which position plays at least 60% of the snaps that you wanted us to draft? And which player?

 

This just feels axe-grindy against Beane.

 

 

Would have been fine with a more significant trade up for Luther Burden 3. Or a smaller trade up for Harris.

 

Would have been fine with standing pat at 56 for Shemar Turner.

 

Waiting for the very poor attempt at a “gotcha”