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7 minutes ago, Einstein said:


Thats two seconds.

FYI.

We entered the round with two 2nd rounders.

We now have 0 2nd rounders left.

Taking TJ Sanders cost 2 second rounders.

TJ Sanders and the 72 pick cost pick 56 and pick 62.

 

Every trade can sound bad if you don’t count everything you get back.  

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5 minutes ago, JimBob2232 said:

 

Farmer or Collins.

I’d take sanders over Farmer every day.  Collin’s is fine- to plug the run and sit on the sideline every 3rd down.  
 

I get it- I would’ve been happy with Collins too, but I’ll take an elite athlete pass rusher over a run plugger that can’t rush the passer every day.  I’m glad we did.  

 

We drafted 2 guys that can really help our D get off the field on 3rd down.  Can’t say enough about it

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Reading the national boards we 100% moved up because San Francisco was going to pick TJ

 

Makes perfect sense to me.

 

Pass rushing DT's are the coin of the realm nowadays.

 

 

Good move Beane.

 

 

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1 minute ago, The Wiz said:

We gave them 2 2nds and got a 2nd.  

 

2-1=1

 

We gave them the chance to draft 2 players and we got 1 player back in this round.  How is that a net -2 players?

With the 4 big picks we moved up 15 in the second and moved down only 10 to the top of the third. And we guaranteed getting the player Beane wants. That's fair. If you don't like the pick that's a separate issue.

 

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Just now, The Wiz said:

We gave them 2 2nds and got a 2nd.  

 

2-1=1

 

We gave them the chance to draft 2 players and we got 1 player back in this round.  How is that a net -2?

We got a 3rd...which we didn't have.  So instead of 2 second rounders.  We get a 2nd and 3rd.  And it's an early 3rd.  

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2 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

We gave them 2 2nds and got a 2nd.  

 

2-1=1

 

We gave them the chance to draft 2 players and we got 1 player back in this round.  How is that a net -2 players?

 

Why are you isolating the 2nds only? That's so arbitrary.

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7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

That's why we did it. Not to jump the Jets. To jump the 49ers. Sanders is a MUCH better scheme fit for Saleh than Alfred Collins. 

People who say "he probably would have been there if we didn't trade down" don't understand that usually the team moving has reason to believe that player is targeted by another team in front 

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5 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I would preferred a pass rushing edge with AJE and Bosa not under contract next year.

Will be our perpetual round 1 or round 2 picks on DL next year.

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10 minutes ago, Einstein said:


Thats two seconds.

FYI.

We entered the round with two 2nd rounders.

We now have 0 2nd rounders left.

Taking TJ Sanders cost 2 second rounders.

Lol what.

 

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4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I would preferred a pass rushing edge with AJE and Bosa not under contract next year.

Mike Green was the BPA DE available?  And yes AJE and Bosa will likely be gone.  Will Oladejo be there at 72?

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7 minutes ago, mannc said:

Here's the thing...we should have given up nothing because there was never any reason to believe this guy wasn't going to be available at 56.  No one had him going this high.

 

Disagree strongly. I said last night I didn't think he'd reach #56. He went right in the range where his talent belongs IMO.

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1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

Guys its not that confusing its essentially two pick swaps and a 4th for a 7th. ,


more fun to catastrophize and complain

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1 minute ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Why are you isolating the 2nds only? That's so arbitrary.

 

Because that’s all we were talking about. We know there is more to it, but we were talking about a specific aspect.

 

People just have a reallyyyy hard time with reading comprehension online. I’m no exception. I have at times too.

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Posted
1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said:

A guy named Einstein and a guy named The Wiz are arguing on the side that makes zero sense. Fascinating.

I was thinking the same thing.   Comical

Posted
Just now, Nephilim17 said:

With the 4 big picks we moved up 15 in the second and moved down only 10 to the top of the third. And we guaranteed getting the player Beane wants. That's fair. If you don't like the pick that's a separate issue.

 

I'm more focus on people saying we gave away 2nds when we didn't.  We gave them 1 2nd and got a 2nd to move up 14 spots.

Just now, jkeerie said:

We got a 3rd...which we didn't have.  So instead of 2 second rounders.  We get a 2nd and 3rd.  And it's an early 3rd.  

I like getting the 3rd for sure.  Again, it's about how everyone thinks we gave them 2 picks and got nothing back in the 2nd round.

Just now, Richard Noggin said:

 

Why are you isolating the 2nds only? That's so arbitrary.

because of the Watkin trade basically.  Everyone said we gave up 2 1sts for him which wasn't true since we still had the pick and drafted him with that pick.

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Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Disagree strongly. I said last night I didn't think he'd reach #56. He went right in the range where his talent belongs IMO.

I'll take your word for it.  I have not seen him projected that high.  What do you think about the fit for the Bills?

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