Slack_in_MA Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I got COMPLETELY the opposite. It was never a DT at #30 in my book. I saw zero evidence if interest in it. So, if one of the top DTs had magically fallen to us at 30, you believe Beane would have taken Hairston anyway? I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m interested in your learned opinion on something I don’t research one iota. OK, maybe ONE iota, but definitely not two. 😉 Quote
GunnerBill Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Just now, Slack_in_MA said: So, if one of the top DTs had magically fallen to us at 30, you believe Beane would have taken Hairston anyway? I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m interested in your learned opinion on something I don’t research one iota. OK, maybe ONE iota, but definitely not two. 😉 Yea I do. The Bills have specific profiles of player that they draft in round one and with the exception of Kincaid (where IMO they panicked when the receivers got wiped out) every first round pick from this regime has been in on a top 30 visit. They did have Williams (in fairness) but none of the others and Williams is the definition of a two down player and Beane said in his pre-draft presser that he sees two down players as less valuable in round one. 1 Quote
Watkins90 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago We took the wrong DT. We should have taken Collins. Quote
Joe Marino Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I see us trading up for DT tonight. TJ Sanders! 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Joe Marino said: TJ Sanders! What do you know,I called one lol 1 Quote
Joe Marino Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 33 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: What do you know,I called one lol You might have just become… Infamous? 😂 1 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 4 hours ago, ICanSleepWhenI'mDead said: Shortly after the Bills pick was announced, the telecast cut to a view of the Bills "war room." Nobody was smiling, and the body language was not upbeat. No way to be sure, but I think the Bills might have been unhappy when Williams, the last highly rated, run stuffing, 1T DT got selected by Baltimore at pick # 28. Of course Beane publicly said that he was happy that the Bills selected Hairston. It may well be true that they had a 1st round grade on him, and we certainly needed a CB. But my guess is they were actually hoping for Williams after DTs Grant, Harmon and Nolen were gone. Had only the Bills lost to the Ravens .. they get Williams!!! What were they thinking 🤔.. I kid would have loved Williams 👍 Quote
jahnyc Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago (edited) The Bills don't seem like the type of organization that would tell multiple players that they will select them if they are there in the first round, so I do mostly believe Williams. Would have been an interesting draft if it had worked out this way because a bunch of the CB prospects were available in the second round (and generally drafted later than expected). Maybe would not have needed to trade up. Edited 8 hours ago by jahnyc Quote
Beck Water Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This was just mentioned on WGR It’s of course possible that the Bills tell a handful of guys the same thing & we may not have expected Maxwell to make it to 30 Wasn't he drafted by Detroit at Pick 28? Quote
YoloinOhio Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 hours ago, VW82 said: I don't think that's it. More like, fans are trying to get excited about the Hairston pick which looks like a legitimately solid pick, but for some it's harder to get as excited if they know Williams was actually our first choice and we just missed out. Dude it’s Tyleik Williams. At no point was he considered a difference maker at Ohio state. He was an asset but positional value exists. First round?! Quote
Thurman#1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 13 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This was just mentioned on WGR It’s of course possible that the Bills tell a handful of guys the same thing & we may not have expected Maxwell to make it to 30 If there's one thing we do know about this regime, it's when they can't tell the truth, instead they just don't answer the question. They wouldn't lie to a handful of guys. I doubt they lie to anyone about anything this momentous in a kid's life, and if they did, we'd have heard about it before. I don't doubt for a second, though, that people hear things that aren't said sometimes. Could the Bills have said something like, "We're really interested in you and we think you're a first round value. If you're available, we'd think about it awfully hard," and the guy perceives that as a promise? IMO, yeah, that absolutely happens and could have happened here. OTOH maybe they really did say it. Who knows, beyond Beane or whoever Williams was listening to? Edited 2 hours ago by Thurman#1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Totally misleading thread title (and thread). Here's the exact quote from Williams himself: “Yeah, it’s kind of the same conversations I was having with the Lions," said Williams, when asked by Lions about his pre-draft meeting with the AFC East squad. "They kind of told me if I was there, they wanted me. I had talks with the head coach, d-line coach. They said they loved my game and how I played. It definitely was a possibility." Ahhhhh. That makes much more sense. Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 12 hours ago, Malazan said: Also, so their agents will then tell other teams. Exactly... Smokescreen to cover the guy they really want. Quote
Dukestreetking Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago 14 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I see us trading up for DT tonight. Prophetic. Nice call Sooner. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted 20 minutes ago Posted 20 minutes ago 15 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: This was just mentioned on WGR It’s of course possible that the Bills tell a handful of guys the same thing & we may not have expected Maxwell to make it to 30 My kid told me I told him we were having ice cream for dinner Quote
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