Tyleik Williams said Bills told him they’d take him at 30

[Slack_in_MA]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I got COMPLETELY the opposite. 

 

It was never a DT at #30 in my book. I saw zero evidence if interest in it.

So, if one of the top DTs had magically fallen to us at 30, you believe Beane would have taken Hairston anyway? I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m interested in your learned opinion on something I don’t research one iota.

OK, maybe ONE iota, but definitely not two. 😉

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Slack_in_MA said:

So, if one of the top DTs had magically fallen to us at 30, you believe Beane would have taken Hairston anyway? I’m not saying you’re wrong. I’m interested in your learned opinion on something I don’t research one iota.

OK, maybe ONE iota, but definitely not two. 😉

 

Yea I do. The Bills have specific profiles of player that they draft in round one and with the exception of Kincaid (where IMO they panicked when the receivers got wiped out) every first round pick from this regime has been in on a top 30 visit. They did have Williams (in fairness) but none of the others and Williams is the definition of a two down player and Beane said in his pre-draft presser that he sees two down players as less valuable in round one.

[Watkins90]

We took the wrong DT. We should have taken Collins. 

[Joe Marino]

3 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I see us trading up for DT tonight.

TJ Sanders!

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Joe Marino said:

TJ Sanders!

What do you know,I called one lol

[Joe Marino]

33 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

What do you know,I called one lol

You might have just become… Infamous? 😂 

[QLBillsFan]

4 hours ago, ICanSleepWhenI'mDead said:

Shortly after the Bills pick was announced, the telecast cut to a view of the Bills "war room."  Nobody was smiling, and the body language was not upbeat.  No way to be sure, but I think the Bills might have been unhappy when Williams, the last highly rated, run stuffing, 1T DT got selected by Baltimore at pick # 28.

 

Of course Beane publicly said that he was happy that the Bills selected Hairston.  It may well be true that they had a 1st round grade on him, and we certainly needed a CB.  But my guess is they were actually hoping for Williams after DTs Grant, Harmon and Nolen were gone.

Had only the Bills lost to the Ravens .. they get Williams!!! What were they thinking 🤔.. I kid would have loved Williams 👍

[jahnyc]

The Bills don't seem like the type of organization that would tell multiple players that they will select them if they are there in the first round, so I do mostly believe Williams.  Would have been an interesting draft if it had worked out this way because a bunch of the CB prospects were available in the second round (and generally drafted later than expected).  Maybe would not have needed to trade up.

Edited Saturday at 03:43 AM by jahnyc

[Beck Water]

8 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

This was just mentioned on WGR
 

It’s of course possible that the Bills tell a handful of guys the same thing

 

& we may not have expected Maxwell to make it to 30

 

Wasn't he drafted by Detroit at Pick 28?

[YoloinOhio]

5 hours ago, VW82 said:

 

I don't think that's it. More like, fans are trying to get excited about the Hairston pick which looks like a legitimately solid pick, but for some it's harder to get as excited if they know Williams was actually our first choice and we just missed out.

Dude it’s Tyleik Williams. At no point was he considered a difference maker at Ohio state. He was an asset but positional value exists. First round?!

 

 

 

 

[Thurman#1]

13 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

This was just mentioned on WGR
 

It’s of course possible that the Bills tell a handful of guys the same thing

 

& we may not have expected Maxwell to make it to 30

 

 

If there's one thing we do know about this regime, it's when they can't tell the truth, instead they just don't answer the question.

 

They wouldn't lie to a handful of guys.

 

I doubt they lie to anyone about anything this momentous in a kid's life, and if they did, we'd have heard about it before.

 

 

 

I don't doubt for a second, though, that people hear things that aren't said sometimes. Could the Bills have said something like, "We're really interested in you and we think you're a first round value. If you're available, we'd think about it awfully hard," and the guy perceives that as a promise? IMO, yeah, that absolutely happens and could have happened here. OTOH maybe they really did say it. Who knows, beyond Beane or whoever Williams was listening to?

 

 

Edited Saturday at 09:56 AM by Thurman#1

[Thurman#1]

11 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

Totally misleading thread title (and thread).  Here's the exact quote from Williams himself:

 

“Yeah, it’s kind of the same conversations I was having with the Lions," said Williams, when asked by Lions  about his pre-draft meeting with the AFC East squad. "They kind of told me if I was there, they wanted me. I had talks with the head coach, d-line coach. They said they loved my game and how I played. It definitely was a possibility."

 

 

Ahhhhh. That makes much more sense.

[ExiledInIllinois]

12 hours ago, Malazan said:

 

Also, so their agents will then tell other teams.

Exactly... Smokescreen to cover the guy they really want.

[Dukestreetking]

14 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I see us trading up for DT tonight.

Prophetic. Nice call Sooner.

[Captain Hindsight]

15 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

This was just mentioned on WGR
 

It’s of course possible that the Bills tell a handful of guys the same thing

 

& we may not have expected Maxwell to make it to 30

My kid told me I told him we were having ice cream for dinner 

[MJS]

15 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I got COMPLETELY the opposite. 

 

It was never a DT at #30 in my book. I saw zero evidence if interest in it.

I'm sure they were prepared to take a DT if the board fell a certain way, like if there was a run on corner before their pick. But I'm sure they were prepared to pivot depending on any number of scenarios.

[GunnerBill]

14 minutes ago, MJS said:

I'm sure they were prepared to take a DT if the board fell a certain way, like if there was a run on corner before their pick. But I'm sure they were prepared to pivot depending on any number of scenarios.

 

The only circumstances I could really imagine their first pick being a DT was a trade back into round 2 and Tyleik Williams had made it there. We have all the data points we need on this regime. The guys they bring in for visits or hold private workouts with are the guys they like to draft. I suppose a world where Hairston, Amos, Scourton and Williams all went before #30 and Harmon or Nolen or Grant were sitting there.... sure they might have done it - that would have been more analogous to the one exception we have to their rule which was Kincaid in 2023 when I honestly think they misread the board expected certain guys to get them and then were in panic mode. But it wouldn't be plan A, B or C..... we'd be on to plan X, Y and Z by that stage.

[Shaw66]

16 hours ago, Logic said:

I feel like every single year, there are multiple instances of players insinuating that X team told them they'd take them at pick X. 

I'm not sure how much teams just lie, how much is players hearing what they want to hear, and how much is reality. There's really no way TO know.

If I had to doubt these assertions for any reason, it's simply that teams don't have a firm idea who will and won't be on the board when they pick. Why would they tell any player "we WILL take you at pick 30" if they have no idea whether a player they have ranked higher will be available when they pick? Seems weird.

Who knows? 

I think the pros - the GMs and the coaches - have learned over the years to be careful about what they say.  They choose their words carefully. I think a 23-year-old guy who's never been through this process before is likely to hear things he wants to hear and isn't accustomed to listening as carefully to the words as the GM or coach chose them.  

[Luka]

42 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I think the pros - the GMs and the coaches - have learned over the years to be careful about what they say.  They choose their words carefully. I think a 23-year-old guy who's never been through this process before is likely to hear things he wants to hear and isn't accustomed to listening as carefully to the words as the GM or coach chose them.  

 

Yea as you grow older you learn to translate corporate speak. What is said is hardly ever what is meant. 

[PrimeTime101]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/detroit-lions-dt-tyleik-williams-discusses-interest-from-bills/vi-AA1DDdl4?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=ACTS&cvid=fbf0a23a44024340added570e580e1e8&ei=9

 

 

First Video on the page.  I guess this kind of shows Buffalo was never interested in trading up at all for anyone. That being said.. its just another peek look at what was going on in the Bills war room and what they were thinking leading up to their pick. 

 

Seems we were content with how the chips were falling to us. 

 

Thoughts?  Would anyone here of been happier with Tyleik Williams?