Biggest 1st Round surprises

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Edge rushers under 245 is givin me Aaron Maybin flashbacks 🤣

The 'Kaiir Elam' school of player development...make them ride the pine for a couple of years, then trade them away.

[transient]

7 minutes ago, chris heff said:

I agree that this is more like “EJ Manuel draft”, but as it turned out the “Lamar” draft really only had 3 legitimate 1st round talents.

Hindsight being what it is, it would have been better phrased "first round prospects." I think based on college production and measureables, it was not wrong to draft Darnold and Rosen in the 1st.

[Mr. WEO]

12 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Josh was looked at as being worse than Darnold, Rosen, & Baker too but then there's that ...

 

remember when Tenn drafted "the next Josh Allen" with Malik Willis?  And then, amazingly, also drafted the next "next Josh Allen" in Wil Levis?

 

Dart could easily be more Chad Kelly than Josh Allen...

 

 

[davefan66]

56 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

I was surprised nobody moved to 30ish to grab Sanders. It’s a QB league. Feels like a different flavor of the Lamar draft.

Who knows, may have been in play. Depends on what draft capital or assets were needed to jump back in. Remember, draft trades for QB’s can expect greater return for the team giving up that pick.

 

 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The price paid was shocking (Jags/Browns price too). It wasn’t a shock to see them take another rusher. It was shocking to see a 1st next year and 2nd this year. It is a giant price.

 

Thats fair - but i think Fontenot gets the axe if he doesn't make the playoffs this year anyway so... if it doesn't work out it really isn't his problem anymore.  

[Kirby Jackson]

6 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

Thats fair - but i think Fontenot gets the axe if he doesn't make the playoffs this year anyway so... if it doesn't work out it really isn't his problem anymore.  

Blank (and Khan) signing off on crazy overpays is something. If the Falcons are 9-8 or whatever they’ll be picking 18 next year or something like that. They trade that and a 2nd for 26 and a 4th. That’s wild.

[The Jokeman]

Outside the trades I was mildly shocked the Lions took Tyleik Williams as felt that they already had a good NT in Alim McNeill, who ironically WIlliams compares to. 

[mannc]

8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Blank (and Khan) signing off on crazy overpays is something. If the Falcons are 9-8 or whatever they’ll be picking 18 next year or something like that. They trade that and a 2nd for 26 and a 4th. That’s wild.

The Falcons remain one of the more perplexing teams in the league, but if Penix lives up to his potential, they could be really good... 

[BBMB Poster]

I thought it was Carolina taking a WR when they have needs at literally every level and position on defense.

[hondo in seattle]

I went with Sanders.  He probably wasn't the biggest surprise but, for me, he was the most interesting. 

 

Kiper compared it to the fall of Aaron Rodgers and thinks Sanders is a first round talent.  

 

On the other hand, an anonymous NFL coach said Sanders gave "the worst formal interview I've ever been in in my life," citing entitlement, poor body language, and a tendency to blame teammates. 

[Mister Defense]

Ken Grant going that early: thought the Bills had a shot at him by moving up to 20 or so.  And to the Dolphins!!

 

And Sanders not getting picket at all, though that scathing report of his interview just before the draft had me wondering if he would fall out the first round.  It likely meant other teams had similar experience.  Deon pumped his son up with so much hot air, and all of his life, it is almost unavoidable now, is part of his DNA. This may humble both of the them a bit, but may not.

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Mister Defense

[Ennjay]

Maybe not the biggest after the Jax/Cle trade or Grant at 13 or Dallas drafting a guard or etc., etc., etc., but I was surprised Philadelphia gave up a 6th to move up ONE spot for the Alabama LB.  It only makes sense (to me) if Philly was absolutely salivating over the LB and was sure KC would take him without the trade.  Like the Bills, 10 rookies or however many picks Philly had are not going to make the team anyway so burning a 6th is probably not a big deal, but still . . . to move up ONE spot?

[Special K]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

remember when Tenn drafted "the next Josh Allen" with Malik Willis?  And then, amazingly, also drafted the next "next Josh Allen" in Wil Levis?

 

Dart could easily be more Chad Kelly than Josh Allen...

 

 

Plus, Trey Lance wad the next Josh Allen, then Anthony Richardson was the next Josh Allen......

 

Often imitated, never duplicated....Josh Allen!

[zow2]

Tyler Warren is such a lock to be an excellent NFL tight end, I was surprised to see he was the 2nd one off the board.  I think the Bears were overthinking that pick.

[Logic]

For me it's the Browns-Jags trade.

On the one hand, I understand it for the Browns. They get to add a blue chip type DL talent this year and then position themselves for a QB next year in what should be a pretty good QB draft.

On the other hand, I sort of DON'T understand it for the Browns. Your fans need hope. You need to sell tickets. You have a generational guy sitting there for the taking (that word is thrown around too much, but Hunter really IS generational)...and you decide to pass on him. If I was a Browns fan this morning, I'd feel very mixed. I'd understand what they're up to and be maybe more hopeful for the future, but I'd also be wondering "did I just trade away the rights to a first ballot Hall of Famer?"

As for the Jags...it's rare to see a team give up a future 1st to move up for a non-QB. That said, their GM called Hunter "a player that could change the sport", and I can't really disagree with him. Hunter is the type of talent worth gambling on. Furthermore, the single biggest factor in whether the Jags will turn the corner is the success of Trevor Lawrence. Giving him a BTJ/Hunter duo is the best thing they POSSIBLY could've done to set him up for success.

Wild trade. Fun trade. Can't wait to see Hunter on an NFL field.

[Southern Bills Fan]

QB is the leader and face of the franchise and I don't think teams wanted the headache of a guy who built his own draft room with "legendary" and $$ signs all over it. When he struggles at all, the Deion press conferences blaming the coaching and the GM for not surrounding him with the right players would be too much for most teams. 

[Cash]

28 minutes ago, Logic said:

For me it's the Browns-Jags trade.

On the one hand, I understand it for the Browns. They get to add a blue chip type DL talent this year and then position themselves for a QB next year in what should be a pretty good QB draft.

On the other hand, I sort of DON'T understand it for the Browns. Your fans need hope. You need to sell tickets. You have a generational guy sitting there for the taking (that word is thrown around too much, but Hunter really IS generational)...and you decide to pass on him. If I was a Browns fan this morning, I'd feel very mixed. I'd understand what they're up to and be maybe more hopeful for the future, but I'd also be wondering "did I just trade away the rights to a first ballot Hall of Famer?"

As for the Jags...it's rare to see a team give up a future 1st to move up for a non-QB. That said, their GM called Hunter "a player that could change the sport", and I can't really disagree with him. Hunter is the type of talent worth gambling on. Furthermore, the single biggest factor in whether the Jags will turn the corner is the success of Trevor Lawrence. Giving him a BTJ/Hunter duo is the best thing they POSSIBLY could've done to set him up for success.

Wild trade. Fun trade. Can't wait to see Hunter on an NFL field.

 

Yeah, even though I'm usually on the side of "trade down, especially if you can get next year's #1", I find myself liking this trade for the Jaguars.  Let's face it: they've been pretty irrelevant for a while now.  Hunter gives them a legitimate star who is incredibly cool, and he's happy to be there!  At a minimum, he's going to sell a lot of jerseys, get the Jaguars mentioned in national media, and inspire a medium number of kids to become Jags fans.  (Only a medium number because kids tend to like winners first, then cool players on 8-9 teams second.)

 

I totally get the arguments that you should never pay up that kind of price for a non-QB, but no rule is going to be right 100% of the time in something as complex as the draft.  Hunter looks like a special player, and by definition there aren't a lot of those floating around.

[bmur66]

That the Browns haven’t screwed up yet

[Mango]

I like Shilo. He's the exact opposite of everything I see from Shedeur.

 

I know it's a short clip, but man, just speaks volumes to their different characters. "You can't disrespect him, he the reason you got it like this. Everything we got is because of this man".

 

There's another clip out there where he's giving Deion a hard time about his 4.2 40 not being on tape. It's all a joke that ends with him asking Prime "what do I have to do to run a 4.2?"

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19F3nvQB23/

 

I would steer clear of Shaduer (obviously we have Josh) but I'd consider taking a 6th/7th round flyer or UDFA on Shilo. It is crazy how different those two are.

Edited 16 hours ago by Mango

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 hour ago, Southern Bills Fan said:

QB is the leader and face of the franchise and I don't think teams wanted the headache of a guy who built his own draft room with "legendary" and $$ signs all over it. When he struggles at all, the Deion press conferences blaming the coaching and the GM for not surrounding him with the right players would be too much for most teams. 

Only one logical solution.  Dispersal draft, and a new franchise granted to (fill in city here), with Deion as HC, Shaduer as QB. 🤔😁