What do we do in Rd 2?

[nosejob]

1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:

Look I love Mike Green I’ve said it a lot. He’s not going to be a Bill and either is Isaiah bond. You might as well wipe these two players from existence 

Neither here nor there since our first pick is 24 deep. That list will be much smaller by then. Then we go from 62 to 109.

[K D]

It will be a DT

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

7 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

Look I love Mike Green I’ve said it a lot. He’s not going to be a Bill and either is Isaiah bond. You might as well wipe these two players from existence 

 

Mike Green perhaps but I don't think Bond would be.

[gonzo1105]

2 minutes ago, nosejob said:

Neither here nor there since our first pick is 24 deep. That list will be much smaller by then. Then we go from 62 to 109.

If they stick at 56, I could see them moving down into the the 3rd acquiring another 4th, then start using those 4th and 5th rounders to move around the board. The good thing is Beane has a lot of different options at hand now with two valuable day 2 picks 

Just now, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

Mike Green perhaps but I don't think Bond would be.

The Bills aren’t taking a SA guy even if it’s just allegations especially after the beating they took got Araiza 

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

Use both 2nds to trade up for Edge Nick Scourton…

 

Aquire a 3rd round pick from the trade…

 

Take DT Farmer with the 3rd rounder…

 

Use both 4th rounders to trade back into the 3rd and take WR Tory Horton/ Tae Felton/ Kyle Williams…

 

 

That would be amazing. Emphasis on “would be”.  Too bad that won’t happen

[SCBills]

11 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

Look I love Mike Green I’ve said it a lot. He’s not going to be a Bill and either is Isaiah bond. You might as well wipe these two players from existence 

Saw an article this morning that he’s completely off some teams boards, so whatever is going on with him, it’s not just the Bills being on some choir boy vibes.

 

Would love, just once, to be the team that gets a steal due to character concerns.  And Mike Green in RD2 would be insane value. 
 

That said, I would’ve said this about Burton last year with Cinci, and that went about as poorly as one could have predicted. 
 

Edited 22 hours ago by SCBills

[Brandon]

31 minutes ago, nosejob said:

If they're lucky 2nd tier at best. Their first selection today is what no. 24?

 

I think they're screwed,  barring a trade up.  I can't really fault them.  The board just fell the wrong way.

 

 

[MJS]

Get a DT and an edge rusher.

[Luka]

I'd love to see one of the safeties and a wide receiver. But especially one of the safeties. The back end of that defense was terrible last year.

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, Luka said:

I'd love to see one of the safeties and a wide receiver. But especially one of the safeties. The back end of that defense was terrible last year.

 

The front 7 isn't all that great either. I think DT will be the pick in Rd 2. 

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

Use both 2nds to trade up for Edge Nick Scourton…

 

Aquire a 3rd round pick from the trade…

 

Take DT Farmer with the 3rd rounder…

 

Use both 4th rounders to trade back into the 3rd and take WR Tory Horton/ Tae Felton/ Kyle Williams…

 

 

I can't see us getting all those trade ups without dipping into our 2026 draft pool, so no thanks. 

8 minutes ago, MJS said:

Get a DT and an edge rusher.

Ideally that's the plan. 

[Luka]

Just now, Gregg said:

 

The front 7 isn't all that great either. I think DT will be the pick in Rd 2. 

The drop off in talent is steeper at the skill positions than it is at DT. However, late in the 2nd round, DT might be the only pick that makes sense depending on how the board falls. The front 7 was also pretty poor most of the season, but if we're looking at 1 tech, the 3rd could still produce a starter due to the value of the position.

[Ralonzo]

1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:

WR: Jayden Higgins, Jalen Royals, Jaylin Noel

DE: Nic Scourton, Donovan Ezeiruaku, Landon Jackson, Bradyn Swinson, Femi Oladejo, J.T. Tuimoloau

DT: Darius Alexander, T.J. Sanders, Omarr Norman Lott, Alfred Collins, Josh Farmer

LB: Carson Schwesinger UCLA

S: Nick Emmanwori South Carolina, Xavier Watts Notre Dame. 

 

If it worked out with Sanders and Oladejo I'd be pleased.

 

Thought I heard on Sanders that the Bills project him to be able to swing between 1T and 3T and his pass rush win rate is great. If the Bills think Farmer can be a 3-down guy then that might be the way they go but is the value there mid-2nd round for that gamble. 

 

Oladejo has every trait you'd want and was as good on his Senior Bowl reps on the D-side as Zabel was on offense... but he's been out on the edge for only a year. There's untapped potential there. If they're carving a role for Hoecht as a joker who can play stand-up or hand in dirt on a given down, Oladejo can plug right into that exact role as a rotational disruptor with upside to full-time Edge.

 

Watts doesn't add the speed to the secondary that Hairston does but he just makes plays. He's got the ball skills as a former receiver and his instincts are superb, and he's such a hand-in-glove fit as a deep-half ballhawking complement to Rapp/Bishop that it would be a fine plan C here.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Landon Jackson and Josh Farmer 

[SCBills]

16 minutes ago, Luka said:

I'd love to see one of the safeties and a wide receiver. But especially one of the safeties. The back end of that defense was terrible last year.

I think this is where I am.

 

I just don’t see the value for DT any longer.  We needed a game changer if we were going to invest high and unfortunately that just wasn’t going to happen this year.
 

If we want a 2 down DT like Alfred Collins or tweeners like Farmer, just take someone like Caldwell in the 4th.  In fact, take two of them early Day 3.  

 

EDGE, Xavier Watts, Max Hairston and then 1 or 2 quality DT’s tonight and/or early Day 3 and this Defense is dramatically transformed.  Even without the eventual additions of Hoecht and Ogunjobi. 
 

Edited 21 hours ago by SCBills

[gonzo1105]

3 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

If it worked out with Sanders and Oladejo I'd be pleased.

 

Thought I heard on Sanders that the Bills project him to be able to swing between 1T and 3T and his pass rush win rate is great. If the Bills think Farmer can be a 3-down guy then that might be the way they go but is the value there mid-2nd round for that gamble. 

 

Oladejo has every trait you'd want and was as good on his Senior Bowl reps on the D-side as Zabel was on offense... but he's been out on the edge for only a year. There's untapped potential there. If they're carving a role for Hoecht as a joker who can play stand-up or hand in dirt on a given down, Oladejo can plug right into that exact role as a rotational disruptor with upside to full-time Edge.

 

Watts doesn't add the speed to the secondary that Hairston does but he just makes plays. He's got the ball skills as a former receiver and his instincts are superb, and he's such a hand-in-glove fit as a deep-half ballhawking complement to Rapp/Bishop that it would be a fine plan C here.

I won’t deny that Farmer has met with the Bills a lot and that he fits the Bills profile with his really long arms I just am not a fan of him. He’s, along with Deone Walker are one of the few people that I would hate as a Bills pick. 
 

He doesn’t have a good get off for a 3 tech, he gets walked out of his gap way too much for my liking in the run game. To me he’s just an athletic profile that doesn’t play like his traits would indicate. Your taking him based on measurable that you hope you can coach up and that scares the he’ll out of me 

[GASabresIUFan]

7 minutes ago, MJS said:

Get a DT and an edge rusher.

I have been saying this for weeks.   Running through the mock drafts if the Bills didn’t grab a CB in the first, they’d all be taken by the time the Bills draft again at 56.  This draft is deep at Edge and DT, some one good will fall to us at 56 & 62.  
 

My one caveat is that depending on how things fall, I can see the Bills trading back to recover a 3rd rd pick to grab and WR or Safety with a late 3rd.  
 

The deal would look something like 62 and 132 for 65-67 and a pick in the 90’s.  The Giants were my likely target but their trade in the first sent away their pick at 99.  Maybe now Cleveland is the target with 67 and 94.

[TheWeatherMan]

7 hours ago, Thrivefourfive said:

If the Bills can get a stud S wouldn’t this complete the objective? We have guys all over the defense now. Up to them to make the pro bowl leap (Greggggg!!) we are weak as hell at safety.

There’s not a starting caliber safety on this roster…yet.  My bet is S/DT/WR in that order and think we could still double dip at DT in this draft.  

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Trade for Hendrickson

Draft DT

Try to move up from 4th round to get a safety or another WR

[Augie]

8 hours ago, Virgil said:

I want Collins

 

This is what NFL.COM had to say about Collins. 

 

“He’s a legit specimen. With the right coaching he could end up taking off and becoming the best interior player in this class.” – NFC personnel director

 

I hope some of the new guys we’ve brought in can do for the DLine what Kromer has done for the OLine.