What do we do in Rd 2?

[DapperCam]

45 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

My hot take: If Amos is there when we pick we pick him. Or Johnson CB.

I would not be opposed to another CB. We need depth. It’s a serious weakness right now.

[BillsShredder83]

8 hours ago, SCBills said:

I’d love to find a way to get Mike Green, but his off the field red flags must be of a different tenor than Hairston’s, because there’s no other way to explain a legit pass rusher dropping like he has. 

Firstly, I hadnt heard of Hairston's until late last night.  Sounded flimsy as hell.  It didnt get any coverage in Kentucky where college ball is king, and a tik-tok rumor.  If McBeane werent sweating it, i feel confident its a nothing burger

 

Secondly, Green's is other worldly. Two seperate SA's at two different colleges.  On top of that a locker room malcontent.  For 32 teams to pass on countries top sack leader. Yikes, I cant imagine him on our board

[OldTimer1960]

15 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I also want Burden III. But there's a number of issues there:

 

1.) He's not a speedy WR and I think they want speed.

 

2.) If he falls to a spot where we can pick him, that probably means that the concerns with his practice/work ethic and his inner circle (reportedly his mom is "a problem" and his girlfriend is his manager) are real. In which case, they'd probably pass.

 

3.) Those things aren't real concerns, in which case they'd have to trade up quite a bit in Round 2 for him and I don't see them doing that for a WR. 

 

Though, like my thoughts on Collins' fit, I'd love to be wrong here too.

I don’t especially want Burden either, but he most definitely is fast.

[nosejob]

7 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Genuinely asking, whats your plan with the extra picks?  I think thats what makes it hard to evaluate a move like this... then on top of this, youre telegraphing your plan to move up multiple times, bc what the heck is a team like ours going to do with 11 draft picks. Im not against it, 3 picks in 2nd round would be awesome, 5 in the top 100.  Concentrating your picks in the sweet spot of this draft.

 

If it were to happen id take the highest upside WR on the outside.... then some combo of DT/DE with the next two.  Im intrigued, just seems hard to generate a plan that justifies it

With this deal those 5ths and 6ths can do a lot of things. Move from 62 to 57. and move up from 82 in the 3rd.  Dream away.

[jahnyc]

I know we need one or more DTs, but it seems like there is some value with the remaining DEs.  

[BillsFanForever19]

7 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I don’t especially want Burden either, but he most definitely is fast.

 

He's a 4.41 guy. That's definitely not slow. But that's not exactly someone you're Drafting to add a Speed element to your WR core either.

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Trade Cook 

 

Draft Jaydon Blue

 

You're essentially straight up trading James Cook for Jaydon Blue. Maybe not even a straight up trade as it's quite possible Blue goes before the pick you would get for Cook. And asking Blue to be what Cook was for us last season out of the gate is a big ask. I fail to see the logic. Ride Cook out, Draft his replacement next season, and get a comp pick for him in 2027 - that will most likely be more than what you'd get in trade for him this season. Don't worry, with the way you fall in love with prospects and think they're all sure things, there will be a RB in next years Draft that you like as much as Blue and likely even more so.

Edited 10 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[BillsShredder83]

8 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

Some guys I'd be happy with :

Edge- Mike Green- Marshall

Edge- Landon Jackson- Arkansas

Edge- Nic Scourton- Texas A&M

1 tech DT- Deone Walker- Kentucky

1 tech DT- Alfred Collins- Texas

1 tech DT- Joshua Farmer- Florida State

WR- Jalen Royals- Utah State

WR- Luther Burden- Missouri

WR- Isiah Bond- Texas

S- Nick Emmanwori- South Carolina

Im an amateur, and a moron, but this would be the least inspiring pick we could make today IMO. He's a 3T ,might be able to take the occasional 1T snap, but def is a 3T from everything I've seen.  Strikes me as a poor man's Carter, so yikes.  From his scout report:

 

"Pad level is wildly inconsistent - will flash perfect leverage one snap then stand straight up the next, negating his natural power"

 

"Pass rush plan comes and goes - too many wasted rushes where he's just pushing forward without purpose or counter moves"

 

His combine numbers are a larger framed/ significantly less explosive Carter.  Its just a scouting report and Lord knows they can be wildly inaccurate, but im fully out on him.  Hate that so many DT's went off board yesterday.  Seems our value in the 2nd is going to heavily favor DE

[OldTimer1960]

7 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

He's a 4.41 guy. That's definitely not slow. But that's not exactly someone you're Drafting to add a Speed element to your WR core either.

How much faster do you need/want?  A WR does not need to run 4.3 to be a dangerous downfield threat.

[Kirby Jackson]

53 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

I like the prospect but is he a good fit next to Oliver? Fairly undersized at 295.  Im kinda in the boat of BPA between DT/DE with our earlier 2nd rder, open to the right WR too, as I think those are going to be where are biggest difference makers will come from

I don’t care about fit anymore. I care about talent. If we think Sanders is a better football player than Collins, I want Sanders.
 

I’m with you on BPA at those few positions  and I’ll add S. Just get quality players.

[NeverOutNick]

Watched a lot more WR film today and if we get one of these 3 WRs today I’d be happy:

 

1. Luther Burden 

2. Kyle Williams

3. Tre Harris

 

Side Note: Isaiah Bond is a stud but bills won’t take him because of the off the field stuff 

 

Id also love to get Tez Johnson and/or Restrepo tomorrow

[Brandon]

18 minutes ago, jahnyc said:

I know we need one or more DTs, but it seems like there is some value with the remaining DEs.  

 

They could certainly use an elite pass rusher,  but my concern with taking a DE on day 2 this year is that he would just get buried on the depth chart behind the four veterans already on the roster this year.  IMO,  its a better allocation of resources to take on in the 4th or 5th to compete with Solomon as a developmental guy and then reevaluate the position at the end of the year. 

[MikePJ76]

Im all in on ezieraku and Oluwafemi Oladejo

 

 

brugler's write up

 

BACKGROUND: Oluwafemi (o-loo-WAH-feh-me) "Femi" Oladejo (ole-uh-DAY-jo), one of four children, was born in the Sacramento, Calif., area. His parents were born and raised in Nigeria and immigrated to the United States shortly before Femi was born (his two older siblings were both born in Nigeria). After his parents separated, he spent time in the Houston area with his father before returning to the Sacramento area and settling in Elk Grove with his mother (Victoria Gbodi). Oladejo started playing football at age 9 and "instantly" fell in love with the sport. He played defensive end, nose tackle and linebacker throughout Pop Warner. He was also an avid basketball player growing up, including for the Predators in an AAU league (coached by his uncle). Oladejo's first name means "God loves me" in Yoruba language.

 

Oladejo attended Cosumnes Oaks High (south of Sacramento), where he was a three-year letterman. After starting out on the freshman and JV teams, he moved up to varsity as a sophomore and played both ways as a linebacker, defensive end and tight end. Oladejo accounted for 40 tackles and four tackles for loss as a sophomore, adding five catches for 74 yards. As a junior, he led Cosumnes Oaks to an 8-4 finish and the semifinals of the 2019 state playofs. Oladejo posted 84 tackles, 14 tackles for loss, five sacks and four forced fumbles, along with nine catches for 177 yards (19.7 average) and three touchdowns. He was poised for a big senior year, but the 2020 season was canceled because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

A three-star recruit, Oladejo was the 84th-ranked linebacker in the 2021 recruiting class and the No. 68 recruit in California. His productive junior season put him on the radar of several West Coast schools, including San Jose, which gave him his first ofer in December 2019. Oladejo added ofers the following spring from Colorado State, Fresno State, Nevada, San Diego State, Utah State and Wyoming. He added his first then-Power 5 ofer from Kansas (April 20202) followed by ofers from Arizona, Cal and Colorado. Before the pandemic shut down recruiting visits, Oladejo had visited Cal, which ultimately helped him feel comfortable committing to the Bears in July 2019. He was the 10th-ranked recruit in head coach Justin Wilcox's 2021 class.

 

After two seasons, Oladejo entered the transfer portal and signed with UCLA. He graduated with a degree from UCLA, with a 3.3 GPA (June 2024). Oladejo accepted his invitation to the Senior Bowl and was named the defensive MVP of the game.

 

STRENGTHS: ● Straight out of central casting with his physique and body type

● Plays with power in his hands to separate from blocks

● Uses length and forward lean to attack the chest and put blockers on their heels

● Flashes developing spin and cross-chop moves that got sharper with each game

● Former of-ball linebacker; plays with range-reaction quickness to slip blocks in the run game

● Plays smart and physical as a contain player and doesn't get pushed around

● Slams into pullers and creates congestion on the edges in the run game

● Mug blitzer — comfortable rushing from diferent angles

● Teammates rave about his efort and energy, and both show on tape

 

WEAKNESSES:

● Doesn't have deep bag of rush/counter moves

● Can dip the corner but doesn't consistently flatten and will be pushed past the pocket

● Needs to develop more of a pass-rush plan to keep blockers guessing

● Too easily kneecapped and needs to better protect himself against cut blocks

● Needs to calm momentum as a break-down player to avoid missed tackles

● Peel/drop player in coverage but late to react to running back routes

● Too many undisciplined moments on tape, including a roughing penalty vs. Washington and a taunting penalty on fourth down vs. Nebraska, which gave the Cornhuskers a fresh set of downs and led to a touchdown

 

SUMMARY: A two-year starter at UCLA, Oladejo moved to a stand-up edge rusher role in defensive coordinator Ikaika Malloe's hybrid front seven, mostly in a two-point stance. After playing Mike linebacker for two seasons at Cal and his first year at UCLA (at 255 pounds), he transitioned to his new position three games into the 2024 season (initially, just for one game, but it turned into a permanent move). Losing the green dot allowed him to "do less thinking and more attacking," and he led the Bruins in tackles for loss (13.5) and sacks (4.5) in 2024.

 

As a run defender, Oladejo is both physical and rangy, with the violence in his hands to shed and the closing speed to chase down the football from the backside. His pass rush is more basic than advanced right now, but he isn't shy about using speed to power and creating leverage with upward strikes.

 

Overall, Oladejo ofers pass-rush upside as he continues to evolve his attack plan and arsenal of moves, but he has the disruptive qualities — his power and efort — to see immediate NFL snaps. He has three-down potential, although convincing NFL teams that he is coachable enough to reach his ceiling will be key for him throughout the draft process. GRADE: 2nd-3rd round (No. 64 overall)

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

8 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Im an amateur, and a moron, but this would be the least inspiring pick we could make today IMO. He's a 3T ,might be able to take the occasional 1T snap, but def is a 3T from everything I've seen.  Strikes me as a poor man's Carter, so yikes.  From his scout report:

 

"Pad level is wildly inconsistent - will flash perfect leverage one snap then stand straight up the next, negating his natural power"

 

"Pass rush plan comes and goes - too many wasted rushes where he's just pushing forward without purpose or counter moves"

 

His combine numbers are a larger framed/ significantly less explosive Carter.  Its just a scouting report and Lord knows they can be wildly inaccurate, but im fully out on him.  Hate that so many DT's went off board yesterday.  Seems our value in the 2nd is going to heavily favor DE

 

I'm a mormon also, ask any of my wives 😁 

 

It's all good man, it doesn't have to be moronic if you have your own thoughts about a prospect. His weight makes him less ideal to play the 1 tech but his power and anchor at least imo makes him a 1 tech and I'd assume he'd have to add on some weight, Just send him to a few chicken wing competitions and we're golden.

[HOUSE]

I want a trade for some cheap 3 time ALL Pro Defensive lineman. 

[OldTimer1960]

1 minute ago, Brandon said:

 

They could certainly use an elite pass rusher,  but my concern with taking a DE on day 2 this year is that he would just get buried on the depth chart behind the four veterans already on the roster this year.  IMO,  its a better allocation of resources to take on in the 4th or 5th to compete with Solomon as a developmental guy and then reevaluate the position at the end of the year. 

I understand your concern, but a good DE prospect should be able to find reps behind Rousseau, Bosa and Epenesa.  I would not think that the presence of Hoecht or Javon Solomon should deter them from taking a DE if there is one they like.  Heck, if they are lucky enough to find a good DE prospect in round 2 he might take snaps away from Epenesa.  The problem is that there may not be any good DE prospects left at 56.  Scourton and Ezeiruauku will likely be gone, Green will be off their board.  If they are lucky Landon Jackson or JT Tuimoloau might still be there.  I don’t think Jack Sawyer should go that high, but it won’t surprise me if someone takes him in round 2.

[Billsfed1]

Keep going defense.  DT, DE

[OldTimer1960]

7 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Im all in on ezieraku and Oluwafemi Oladejo

 

 

brugler's write up

 

BACKGROUND: Oluwafemi (o-loo-WAH-feh-me) "Femi" Oladejo (ole-uh-DAY-jo), one of four children, was born in the Sacramento, Calif., area. His parents were born and raised in Nigeria and immigrated to the United States shortly before Femi was born (his two older siblings were both born in Nigeria). After his parents separated, he spent time in the Houston area with his father before returning to the Sacramento area and settling in Elk Grove with his mother (Victoria Gbodi). Oladejo started playing football at age 9 and "instantly" fell in love with the sport. He played defensive end, nose tackle and linebacker throughout Pop Warner. He was also an avid basketball player growing up, including for the Predators in an AAU league (coached by his uncle). Oladejo's first name means "God loves me" in Yoruba language.

 

Oladejo attended Cosumnes Oaks High (south of Sacramento), where he was a three-year letterman. After starting out on the freshman and JV teams, he moved up to varsity as a sophomore and played both ways as a linebacker, defensive end and tight end. Oladejo accounted for 40 tackles and four tackles for loss as a sophomore, adding five catches for 74 yards. As a junior, he led Cosumnes Oaks to an 8-4 finish and the semifinals of the 2019 state playofs. Oladejo posted 84 tackles, 14 tackles for loss, five sacks and four forced fumbles, along with nine catches for 177 yards (19.7 average) and three touchdowns. He was poised for a big senior year, but the 2020 season was canceled because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

A three-star recruit, Oladejo was the 84th-ranked linebacker in the 2021 recruiting class and the No. 68 recruit in California. His productive junior season put him on the radar of several West Coast schools, including San Jose, which gave him his first ofer in December 2019. Oladejo added ofers the following spring from Colorado State, Fresno State, Nevada, San Diego State, Utah State and Wyoming. He added his first then-Power 5 ofer from Kansas (April 20202) followed by ofers from Arizona, Cal and Colorado. Before the pandemic shut down recruiting visits, Oladejo had visited Cal, which ultimately helped him feel comfortable committing to the Bears in July 2019. He was the 10th-ranked recruit in head coach Justin Wilcox's 2021 class.

 

After two seasons, Oladejo entered the transfer portal and signed with UCLA. He graduated with a degree from UCLA, with a 3.3 GPA (June 2024). Oladejo accepted his invitation to the Senior Bowl and was named the defensive MVP of the game.

 

STRENGTHS: ● Straight out of central casting with his physique and body type

● Plays with power in his hands to separate from blocks

● Uses length and forward lean to attack the chest and put blockers on their heels

● Flashes developing spin and cross-chop moves that got sharper with each game

● Former of-ball linebacker; plays with range-reaction quickness to slip blocks in the run game

● Plays smart and physical as a contain player and doesn't get pushed around

● Slams into pullers and creates congestion on the edges in the run game

● Mug blitzer — comfortable rushing from diferent angles

● Teammates rave about his efort and energy, and both show on tape

 

WEAKNESSES:

● Doesn't have deep bag of rush/counter moves

● Can dip the corner but doesn't consistently flatten and will be pushed past the pocket

● Needs to develop more of a pass-rush plan to keep blockers guessing

● Too easily kneecapped and needs to better protect himself against cut blocks

● Needs to calm momentum as a break-down player to avoid missed tackles

● Peel/drop player in coverage but late to react to running back routes

● Too many undisciplined moments on tape, including a roughing penalty vs. Washington and a taunting penalty on fourth down vs. Nebraska, which gave the Cornhuskers a fresh set of downs and led to a touchdown

 

SUMMARY: A two-year starter at UCLA, Oladejo moved to a stand-up edge rusher role in defensive coordinator Ikaika Malloe's hybrid front seven, mostly in a two-point stance. After playing Mike linebacker for two seasons at Cal and his first year at UCLA (at 255 pounds), he transitioned to his new position three games into the 2024 season (initially, just for one game, but it turned into a permanent move). Losing the green dot allowed him to "do less thinking and more attacking," and he led the Bruins in tackles for loss (13.5) and sacks (4.5) in 2024.

 

As a run defender, Oladejo is both physical and rangy, with the violence in his hands to shed and the closing speed to chase down the football from the backside. His pass rush is more basic than advanced right now, but he isn't shy about using speed to power and creating leverage with upward strikes.

 

Overall, Oladejo ofers pass-rush upside as he continues to evolve his attack plan and arsenal of moves, but he has the disruptive qualities — his power and efort — to see immediate NFL snaps. He has three-down potential, although convincing NFL teams that he is coachable enough to reach his ceiling will be key for him throughout the draft process. GRADE: 2nd-3rd round (No. 64 overall)

I see the athletic ability in Oledejo, but I think he is very raw.  Definitely a lottery ticket pick - if he hits he could be very good, but he could end up just bouncing around the league.  Just my opinion, of course, and I know he has gotten some buzz lately.

[BillsFanForever19]

18 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

How much faster do you need/want?  A WR does not need to run 4.3 to be a dangerous downfield threat.

 

Considering Khalil Shakir runs 4.43 and Curtis Samuel ran a 4.31 (probably has declined a bit due to age, but probably still in the range of 4.41) and the feeling is we don't have someone that's going to win with speed - I don't think 4.41 really meets the mark of a "Speed WR". Again, not slow. But not exactly a speed demon.

[BillsShredder83]

7 hours ago, stlbills13 said:

Defensive lineman and then I can accept basically any other position but priorities are DL/CB (double dip), safety, WR, or LB

To double dip with any meaningful pick at CB would be a mistake.  Who are we taking in the 2nd thats going to be an upgrade on Dane/Tre, coming back to a defense they understand inside and out. Firstly, your best case scenario is a guy who won't start and is depth only.  Secondly, anything you gain in athleticism basically gets washed out by the fact theyre not mentally going to perform like White/Dane.  I just cant see how depth, at a position we have good depth at, moves the needle.