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4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Apparently he was a better and more willing tackler before his shoulder injury. But anyways I just don't care that much about run support for my CBs. It's like blocking for a WR, a nice plus but not the make or break attribute. Tre White even in his prime also was not great in run support or as a tackler and he was still elite in our scheme. I just want my top CBs to cover and break up passes.

 

So many guys never tackle at that spot. I think Beane put it best: they just have to be willing tacklers. 

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I'm sure this has already been said in this thread, but...

Thinking about Mad Max getting to learn from Tre makes me so happy. I think their personalities will mesh really well, I think Max will be a willing student and Tre a willing teacher, and there are reps where I look at Max at Kentucky and see young Tre White.

For his on-field mentorship contributions alone -- though I do think he'll provide more than that -- the Tre White signing was a good one.

Also, if for whatever reason Hairston isn't immediately ready to start on day one, Tre and Dane can certainly hold down the fort for a quarter of a season until he is.

 

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40 minutes ago, Dunkirk Donski said:

Beebe's offical combine time was 4.42

Does anyone know where the 4.25 time comes from ?  Interweb research is inconclusive...

 

Bo Jackson apparently jumped over a river that could fit a Royal Caribbean.  

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Can I just say how NICE it is to have so many players that I WANT to root for? 

Like genuinely good people, dedicated, hard-working people, funny people, LIKABLE people.

I know, I know...we'd all take a few more turds on the team if it meant winning a Super Bowl. The point is to win championships, not "nice guy" trophies. I get it. Really, I do.

But still...there are plenty of fan bases out there whose teams regularly draft absolute garbage humans. Abusers and rapers and drunks and jerks. But here in Buffalo? All you hear about is this family culture where everyone hangs out together outside of work and helps shovel each other's driveways, and all we get for players are guys like Tre White, Dion Dawkins, Josh Allen, Keon Coleman, Ray Davis, Max Hairston, Micah Hyde, Terrel Bernard, and on and on and on. GOOD PEOPLE.

It's nice. It's nice to root for guys like this. Good humans. It feels good.

Laugh at me all you want. IDGAF.

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4 hours ago, muppy said:

hope springs eternal he is as good on the field as he sounds off of it.

 

That's the bottom line.  I'll be rooting hard for him to succeed. We need him to. 

 

Go Bills

 

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1 hour ago, Dunkirk Donski said:

The supposed tackling issues are a farce and based on two games played post shoulder injury.  

 

Don't recall this, just read it in an article today that apparently one of the knocks on Tre White was also poor tackling.  He turned out pretty well in that area.

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9 minutes ago, Just in Atlanta said:

The lack of hot takes is concerning. 

 

Should I be mad at this pick? 

Am I done with this team? 

 

Superbowl?


Someone tell me how to feel. 


Haha I truly don't ever remember reading a 1st round Bills draft thread like this.

It is SHOCKINGLY devoid of hot takes and anger.

Why is that? Because corner was such a glaring need? Because the guy we picked ran a 4.28? WHAT IS BEHIND THIS MADNESS?!?!

An academic study on the matter needs to be completed, I think.

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1 minute ago, Logic said:


Haha I truly don't ever remember reading a 1st round Bills draft thread like this.

It is SHOCKINGLY devoid of hot takes and anger.

Why is that? Because corner was such a glaring need? Because the guy we picked ran a 4.28? WHAT IS BEHIND THIS MADNESS?!?!

An academic study on the matter needs to be completed, I think.

 

I think it's one thing that is universally agreed upon. The secondary was bad last year. I think Harriston's speed and his ability to score is the kind of flash every fan looks for in a corner. Really a slam dunk pick by Beane and Co. 

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Just now, Luka said:

 

I think it's one thing that is universally agreed upon. The secondary was bad last year. I think Harriston's speed and his ability to score is the kind of flash every fan looks for in a corner. Really a slam dunk pick by Beane and Co. 


Yeah. While some may have preferred other positions, anyone who complains about taking a corner after watching Kaiir Elam get absolutely smoked in the AFCCG last year should probably have his head examined.

The Bills were DREADFUL on 3rd down last year, and it probably cost them a Super Bowl berth. Corner was so clearly a need, and the guy they filled that need with was a "swing for the fences" type pick who has playmaking potential we haven't seen from a Bills corner in years. 

 

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Cant't wait until he gets a pick six and the commentators says, "Turn on those coffee makers as Maxwell takes it to the house!" or something to that effect. 

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7 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Why are some “experts”  calling him a man to man corner and others saying zone

 

which is it? Both?

 

I can understand where the confusion comes in with this.  I have been reading write ups that tell 2 different stories.  Some call him a zone corner.  Some call him a man corner.  

 

What I will say is, based on my tape breakdowns anyway, is that he is a very good zone-match CB with solid man coverage skills.  He did play off a lot matching switch releases reading the QB and then driving on the ball with his great speed.  But, there were plenty of times where they lined him up on an island and he played press man or played off a bit but used great trail technique to stay in the WRs hip pocket.

 

If you are interested to see a little bit of everything he does, including the good and the bad, go watch his game against Texas and watch him go against Golden and Bond.  He wins a bunch, but loses as well in man coverage.  There are also good examples of him in zone coverage where he recognizes the play and drives on the ball to limit RAC or force an incompletion.  You will also see him miss a tackle or 2 that led to bigger plays, but I do think at least one of those was a busted coverage or just a bad call.  Regardless, you will see him play in all types of coverages.  There is one play that really stand out int this game that showcases who he is as a corner.  He's lined up on Bond who looks like he is running a go but Bond sticks his foot in the ground and turns it into a post.  But, after initially getting beat, Max catches up to Bond very quickly (Bond runs in the 4.3s by the way) and high points the ball in the endzone and knocks it away.  It is just a beautiful play.  Maybe the throw could have been a bit better, but that's the way it goes and Max made the play.

 

So, what is he?  I'd call him an excellent zone-match defender with solid man coverage skills that can improve with proper coaching and adding a bit more weight to hold up better against certain types of WRs.  Hope this helps!

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1 minute ago, Logic said:


Yeah. While some may have preferred other positions, anyone who complains about taking a corner after watching Kaiir Elam get absolutely smoked in the AFCCG last year should probably have his head examined.

The Bills were DREADFUL on 3rd down last year, and it probably cost them a Super Bowl berth. Corner was so clearly a need, and the guy they filled that need with was a "swing for the fences" type pick who has playmaking potential we haven't seen from a Bills corner in years. 

 

28th on 3rd down is crazy town

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