James Cook absent from OTA's

[WideNine]

2 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Could have a great year as a Bill playing for the market as you say.  Beane and Bills fans alike would love that.

 

But Cook might do the "hold-in" to week 11 believing that his 2024 stats did enough for some team to pay him the coveted $15M.  

 

That's a big risk Beane is dealing with and the basis for my belief that there is a great chance Cook is moved during the draft.  Trading Cook now eliminates the potential problem of Cook's not playing and allows the Bills to use a 3 to 4th round pick on reloading the RB room. 

 

Moving him during the draft is a possibility; although I have heard that there is a decent crop of RBs available in the draft and that may limit deals, but who knows.

 

Could be a team misses on their guy at RB and are looking for the traits that Cook brings to the field.

 

We will see how this plays out, but hoping it does not become a distraction

 

 

 

 

[twist_to_open]

PFT had a story with Jerry Jones hinting how he has a couple of "major moves" in the works possibly even before Thurday. I'm starting the rumor now Cook is shipped off to Dallas for Parsons.

[Returntoglory]

20 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Liar

Yo Mama!

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:30 PM by Returntoglory

[BuffaloRebound]

3 minutes ago, twist_to_open said:

PFT had a story with Jerry Jones hinting how he has a couple of "major moves" in the works possibly even before Thurday. I'm starting the rumor now Cook is shipped off to Dallas for Parsons.

they’re not trading parsons but cook to dallas makes a lot of sense.  i’d do it for a 2nd next year and a swap of 62 for 44

[MikePJ76]

I can’t believe this is being turned into a thing.

 

I am embarrassed for the local Buffalo media today.  They all ran to social media as fast as they could to insinuate exactly what beane said not to.

 

ridiculous.

21 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

they’re not trading parsons but cook to dallas makes a lot of sense.  i’d do it for a 2nd next year and a swap of 62 for 44

Less than a zero percent chance Dallas would want anything to do with a running back looking for a contract 24 Hours from the draft which they have ten picks in.

 

who started this cook to Dallas rumor?  Do they know anything about how Dallas operates?

[longtimebillsfan]

Where does cook think this $15 mil going to come from?

 

Who do we cut.

 

Just say "so long" after this season and draft the next one.

[Einstein's Dog]

11 minutes ago, WideNine said:

 

Moving him during the draft is a possibility; although I have heard that there is a decent crop of RBs available in the draft and that may limit deals, but who knows.

 

Could be a team misses on their guy at RB and are looking for the traits that Cook brings to the field.

 

We will see how this plays out, but hoping it does not become a distraction

 

J Cook is a top ten-ish back, teams missing out on Jeanty and maybe Hampton then Cook would be a clearly superior back IMO.  Teams like Dallas, Pitt, and NYG could be interested.

 

Hoping it doesn't become a distraction is risky (and that is if Beane doesn't think it is already a distraction).  Moving Cook during the draft gives the Bills the opportunity to replenish the RB room.

[Mister Defense]

4 hours ago, JP51 said:

I honestly dont want to over think this... but not gonna lie, all too often when players who are disgruntled with their contract do this it tends to be a thing... when he starts skipping mandatory stuff then I think its at another level...  I will say this to James Cook... be careful dude... lots of 2 down backs under 200lbs out there lookin for work and they dont want 15mm...  Diva running backs tend to have an issue.. talk to Dalvin he will tell you.  May wanna ring Ezekiel and Le'veon too...  

 

Come now, with those super weak comparisons to Cook. And tell us who the comparable running backs out there are right now, 'lookin for work'?

 

He is not a diva at all, does not seek attention, the limelight, is a  quiet, reserved guy. He just wants to get payed what he should be payed, probably knows, like most of us, that he is the most skilled, talented man on the roster after Josh Allen.  One of the only elite players on the team, the best running back in the conference, and one of the best in the league. You don't have to be a diva to see your abilities for what they are.

 

Dalvin is not one either, but a running back who ran a gazillion times in college and then ditto in the NFL and broke down way too young. 

 

And Ezekeiel was washed up several years ago and was cut by the girls at the right time.  He did nothing after that, is clearly done, should not have embarrassed himself and played last year.  What is the comparison to James Cook?? I see no similarities except that they're both NFL running backs.

 

And Leveon, well okay, he foolishly held out, and that was the end of him. Cook will not hold out, but if he does, he will not lose almost all of his skills as a result.

 

 

[Thrivefourfive]

Why would either of the two rumored RB draft teams—Raiders and Cowboys—choose to pay an RB, Cook, who’s not as good as the cheap guy they’re about to draft 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Why???

[Doc Brown]

39 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Why would either of the two rumored RB draft teams—Raiders and Cowboys—choose to pay an RB, Cook, who’s not as good as the cheap guy they’re about to draft 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Why???

If the Raiders draft Jeanty at #6 it would be $6.5m/season.  It would cost the Cowboys $4.1m per season at #12.  Would you rather sign Cook for maybe double or triple that, save the pick, and give up say a 3rd?  I wouldn't do it but they know they have a sure thing in Cook.  Plus, to answer your questions it's the Raiders and the Cowboys.

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, twist_to_open said:

PFT had a story with Jerry Jones hinting how he has a couple of "major moves" in the works possibly even before Thurday. I'm starting the rumor now Cook is shipped off to Dallas for Parsons.

I'm sticking with my prediction I have had for awhile now.  Cook + #30 for #12 if the guy the Bills really want is there. Might have to toss in a 5th or so,but I think it might happen.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

We are not used to these types of shenanigans! The bills do a great job of signing their own at very good rates. 
 

We just need to be prepared for him to hold out for a while, but he will have to report and play before the season starts, otherwise he loses all his leverage.

[Doc Brown]

53 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Come now, with those super weak comparisons to Cook. And tell us who the comparable running backs out there are right now, 'lookin for work'?

 

He is not a diva at all, does not seek attention, the limelight, is a  quiet, reserved guy. He just wants to get payed what he should be payed, probably knows, like most of us, that he is the most skilled, talented man on the roster after Josh Allen.  One of the only elite players on the team, the best running back in the conference, and one of the best in the league. You don't have to be a diva to see your abilities for what they are.

 

Dalvin is not one either, but a running back who ran a gazillion times in college and then ditto in the NFL and broke down way too young. 

 

And Ezekeiel was washed up several years ago and was cut by the girls at the right time.  He did nothing after that, is clearly done, should not have embarrassed himself and played last year.  What is the comparison to James Cook?? I see no similarities except that they're both NFL running backs.

 

And Leveon, well okay, he foolishly held out, and that was the end of him. Cook will not hold out, but if he does, he will not lose almost all of his skills as a result.

 

 

You have other examples of like Todd Gurley, Chris Johnson, Nick Chubb, David Johnson, etc..  It's just the most injury prone position.  Plus, a RB is so dependent and useless without a good offensive line.  Barkley only averaged 3.9ypc in 2023 with the Giants because they're line was awful.  I'd rather re-sign McGovern for $15m a year than Cook.  

14 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I'm sticking with my prediction I have had for awhile now.  Cook + #30 for #12 if the guy the Bills really want is there. Might have to toss in a 5th or so,but I think it might happen.

Then Jerry Jones would have to be shipped to a mental institution for evaluation.

[Returntoglory]

Psssst-- People! It already has become a distraction!

[JP51]

5 hours ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Don’t lump in dumpster diving pedestrian journeyman in comparison to Cook. He had over a thousand yards in 200 carries and scored 16 touchdowns. With one of the premier 3rd down backs in Johnson and the fact that Brady may have killed us against KC by not playing Cook the last two series, be careful what you wish for. Josh should be actively pushing for Beane to negotiate with this guy. Remember RBs have 6 year careers if they’re great. By signing Rousseau,who stinks in the postseason and dishing out big money to PED guys for 11 game seasons, what should arguably the best back in the AFC do at 25 years old.

Not sure i would label Dalvin Cook, Ez Elliot and Le Veon Bell dumpster diving pedestrian journeyman... I am not wishing for cook to go either not sure where you got that from my post.  But I do stand by my thought regarding Cook not at OTAs is concerning and that if he takes the path of the 3 I mentioned he could very well end up like them. He is a 2 down smallish back that wants Barkley money and isn't gonna get it from us and almost certainly no one if he sits out becomes a distraction etc... his best bet is to go out there an produce 

[JP51]

1 hour ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Come now, with those super weak comparisons to Cook. And tell us who the comparable running backs out there are right now, 'lookin for work'?

 

He is not a diva at all, does not seek attention, the limelight, is a  quiet, reserved guy. He just wants to get payed what he should be payed, probably knows, like most of us, that he is the most skilled, talented man on the roster after Josh Allen.  One of the only elite players on the team, the best running back in the conference, and one of the best in the league. You don't have to be a diva to see your abilities for what they are.

 

Dalvin is not one either, but a running back who ran a gazillion times in college and then ditto in the NFL and broke down way too young. 

 

And Ezekeiel was washed up several years ago and was cut by the girls at the right time.  He did nothing after that, is clearly done, should not have embarrassed himself and played last year.  What is the comparison to James Cook?? I see no similarities except that they're both NFL running backs.

 

And Leveon, well okay, he foolishly held out, and that was the end of him. Cook will not hold out, but if he does, he will not lose almost all of his skills as a result.

 

 

Not looking to compare running styles just positions... Just grabbed three high performing RBs who got huffy about not getting the money they wanted and chose to hold out or become a distraction one of them was his brother... to illustrate that it didn't end well for them. You disagree that's fine... but to say to James Cook look at what happened to your brother who seems to be advising you and say comparing him to his own brother is a weak comparison ... I guess we can just agree to disagree. Lastly... I never called him a diva nor at this point do I think he is I am sounding an alarm should he choose that path that others in his position who chose that path ended up irrelevant... he isn't a QB, WR, or game wrecking Edge rusher

... fact of the matter is that his position doesn't carry the tolerance for that stuff then others do... I hope he gets a fair deal I hope he stays and I hope he doesn't choose to become a distraction like the 3 I mentioned... that simple

Edited yesterday at 02:00 AM by JP51

[Thrivefourfive]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

If the Raiders draft Jeanty at #6 it would be $6.5m/season.  It would cost the Cowboys $4.1m per season at #12.  Would you rather sign Cook for maybe double or triple that, save the pick, and give up say a 3rd?  I wouldn't do it but they know they have a sure thing in Cook.  Plus, to answer your questions it's the Raiders and the Cowboys.

Those guys are supposed to be workhorses. If it’s Cook compared to those two RBs, I can’t believe an NFL team would choose Cook, not taking into account the money. These are top picks we’re talking here. Hypothetically if Cook were in this draft, and teams already knew of Cook’s NFL success ((and limitations and the inside story to all those TDs)) not a team takes Cook over the other two players. They’re a tier above and are being drafted like it. Then the money.. age.. wear. 
 

If tables were turned, would we want the Bills to acquire Cook instead of (probably stupidly) drafting Jeanty and Hampton? If my GM was dead set on drafting one of those two guys, I wouldn’t want to trade for a more expensive Cook as a “better deal”.

[Mango]

21 hours ago, The Cincinnati Kid said:

Dalvin played 6 good seasons. James going into year 3…”get yourself paid now James. NFL stands for Not For Long.”

 

I hope this whole thing works out. But the last 10 years RB's have been paid peanuts compared to other skill positions. 

 

The stuff with Cook bothers me waaaay less than a WR holding out over $25 v $28M. Cook likely only gets one big contract.

 

That said, unless he becomes a 3 down back I wouldn't get near $15M.

Edited yesterday at 05:22 PM by Mango

[Doc Brown]

33 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said:

Those guys are supposed to be workhorses. If it’s Cook compared to those two RBs, I can’t believe an NFL team would choose Cook, not taking into account the money. These are top picks we’re talking here. Hypothetically if Cook were in this draft, and teams already knew of Cook’s NFL success ((and limitations and the inside story to all those TDs)) not a team takes Cook over the other two players. They’re a tier above and are being drafted like it. Then the money.. age.. wear. 
 

If tables were turned, would we want the Bills to acquire Cook instead of (probably stupidly) drafting Jeanty and Hampton? If my GM was dead set on drafting one of those two guys, I wouldn’t want to trade for a more expensive Cook as a “better deal”.

If a team thinks Cook has the potential to be a workhouse back than I guess it would make sense to use your first round pick at a premium position and then give up a 3rd or 4th for Cook.  The one positive with Cook is the lack of wear and tear on his body going all the way back to college as he's never been a high volume RB.  It's doubtful any GM would do that though but it only takes one.

[Big Turk]

5 hours ago, Einstein said:

Because its voluntary in name only. You are expected to be there.

To quote Vrabel: “I write a letter voluntarily to the players to make sure that they voluntarily read it and voluntarily show up.”

 

Plenty of players skip these.

 

Far more important for trash teams like the one Vrabel is coaching to have players show up than perennial powerhouses 

Edited yesterday at 03:23 AM by Big Turk