Top 5 Players Bills Draft

[Richard Noggin]

11 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

That’s why I didn’t put specific pick numbers. Yes there will need to be movement. Potentially move out of round 1, and move all around rd 2.

I don’t see anything coming from the Bond accusations. He was quick to flip it on his accusers which convinces me there is actual witnesses that deny allegations and it’s all just a potential money grab.

 

Commenting on the veracity of Bond's charges like this is dicey, as we don't KNOW much from our limited perspectives. Slandering female accusers is a go-to move for high profile defendants with well paid legal teams, independent of the truth. 

 

I agree with the others assuming Bond is off the Bills board all together at this point, or at the very least out of consideration on the first two nights. They're not going to pull the trigger before KC does, for example. 

 

Pearce Jr is another guy who might not be considered draftable by McBeane, unless they decide the locker room is ready to absorb such a risk. To my understanding he has off-field chatter, and moreover there's noise about his character "in the building." So football character concerns, if the couple reports I've heard/read are to be believed. Or maybe those "on-field" flags are more addressable with a strong culture. I don't know. Some pundit last week compared Pearce to Javon Kearse ffs. 

Edited Sunday at 04:08 AM by Richard Noggin

[GASabresIUFan]

10 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

So we will go into the season with the worst WR corps in the league? Shakir is the only proven legitimate NFL WR on our roster. Superman Josh again, why not

What?  Palmer is a proven NFL receiver.  Samuel is a proven NFL receiver.  They aren't stars and Brady needs to rethink how he utilized (or didn't utilize) Samuel, but they are proven NFL players.  Just FYI: Samuel has 4 seasons in his career with over 600 yards receiving, including one with 800+ yards.  Palmer has 3 of 580+ in his 4 NFL season including one over 750 yards.  Palmer has averaged over 15 yards per catch in the last 2 seasons.  

 

Beane is investing up to $12 mill a season in Palmer.  He is going to play the Amari Cooper role this coming season with probably just as good or better results.  That said, I agree on wanting more vertical threat(s) down the field and guys like Felton, Kyle Williams, Arian Smith and Thornton can deliver that ability.  

[NeverOutNick]

9 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

What?  Palmer is a proven NFL receiver.  Samuel is a proven NFL receiver.  They aren't stars and Brady needs to rethink how he utilized (or didn't utilize) Samuel, but they are proven NFL players.  Just FYI: Samuel has 4 seasons in his career with over 600 yards receiving, including one with 800+ yards.  Palmer has 3 of 580+ in his 4 NFL season including one over 750 yards.  Palmer has averaged over 15 yards per catch in the last 2 seasons.  

 

Beane is investing up to $12 mill a season in Palmer.  He is going to play the Amari Cooper role this coming season with probably just as good or better results.  That said, I agree on wanting more vertical threat(s) down the field and guys like Felton, Kyle Williams, Arian Smith and Thornton can deliver that ability.  

Samuel and Palmer are both overpaid. Samuel is a gadget player, a better version of Isaiah McKenzie. Palmer was a part time player behind one of the worst starters in the league in Q Johnston.
 

I do think Palmer will beat man coverage and bring a needed element but he’s not worth $36 mil imo when Hopkins went for $6 mil and has proven to be clutch over and over. Hope I’m wrong and Palmer is amazing. 
 

All in all I just want to go after long term cheap options (draft, draft, draft) for Josh to develop with instead of overpaying for jags 

[GASabresIUFan]

14 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

Samuel and Palmer are both overpaid. Samuel is a gadget player, a better version of Isaiah McKenzie. Palmer was a part time player behind one of the worst starters in the league in Q Johnston.

No question both are overpaid.  I wouldn't have signed either player, but I'm not the GM.  However, they are here and Brady, Josh, Beane and McD need to find away to get value out of them.  I do think Palmer has the chance to have a breakout year here.  

 

My opinion as to why WR is unlikely to be the priority on days 1 & 2 of the draft simply comes down to why did the Bills lose in the playoffs the last 2 years?  The answer was defensive mistakes much brought on by lack of adequate D depth.  With White, D Jones and Bosa as current projected starters, given their ages, injury histories and 1 year contracts, it's imperative that Beane get long-term replacements for them in the draft, especially in a drafted loaded with Edge and DT early with a decent amount of talented CBs.  It's simply a matter of demand meeting supply.  Add that the WR crop is not the greatest (especially compared to last season) early in the draft and our signing of Palmer, leads me to believe that WR isn't an early priority.

 

The biggest caveat for me at WR is somehow Egbuka falls to 30.  If I were Beane and Egbuka was sitting there at 30, I'd throw away my draft script and take him and then let the chips fall where they may.  He is the one WR who might be available at 30 who would change our offense for the better for the next 5-7 years.

 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 04:39 AM by GASabresIUFan

[BillsFanForever19]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

What?  Palmer is a proven NFL receiver.  Samuel is a proven NFL receiver.  They aren't stars and Brady needs to rethink how he utilized (or didn't utilize) Samuel, but they are proven NFL players.  Just FYI: Samuel has 4 seasons in his career with over 600 yards receiving, including one with 800+ yards.  Palmer has 3 of 580+ in his 4 NFL season including one over 750 yards.  Palmer has averaged over 15 yards per catch in the last 2 seasons.  

 

Beane is investing up to $12 mill a season in Palmer.  He is going to play the Amari Cooper role this coming season with probably just as good or better results.  That said, I agree on wanting more vertical threat(s) down the field and guys like Felton, Kyle Williams, Arian Smith and Thornton can deliver that ability.  

 

Palmer is a proven career yearly average of 572 yards, a WR2/3 guy. Samuel is a proven Slot that we hoped could be an Outside guy, but still used 50% on the Inside. 

 

Palmer might be taking the role Cooper was supposed to provide us, but he hasn't proven that he's anything more than what he's done as of yet. And even if he fills Cooper's role on paper - we still don't have a hole where Mack Hollins was.

 

Given that when it mattered against the Championship caliber teams of Baltimore and Kansas City, our core wasn't enough, it was my hope that we would seriously upgrade WR this offseason. Palmer is another hope and projection that he can be more than what he's been (like Hollins and Samuel last season).

 

So i'd hope the board falls right and we get a WR worthy of a 1st or 2nd Round Pick to provide the most talented guy we can for that last spot. Because relying on Palmer, Coleman, and Samuel to be more than what they were last year is a hope and not something we should be 100% relying on.

Edited Sunday at 06:14 AM by BillsFanForever19

[NeverOutNick]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFan said:

No question both are overpaid.  I wouldn't have signed either player, but I'm not the GM.  However, they are here and Brady, Josh, Beane and McD need to find away to get value out of them.  I do think Palmer has the chance to have a breakout year here.  

 

My opinion as to why WR is unlikely to be the priority on days 1 & 2 of the draft simply comes down to why did the Bills lose in the playoffs the last 2 years?  The answer was defensive mistakes much brought on by lack of adequate D depth.  With White, D Jones and Bosa as current projected starters, given their ages, injury histories and 1 year contracts, it's imperative that Beane get long-term replacements for them in the draft, especially in a drafted loaded with Edge and DT early with a decent amount of talented CBs.  It's simply a matter of demand meeting supply.  Add that the WR crop is not the greatest (especially compared to last season) early in the draft and our signing of Palmer, leads me to believe that WR isn't an early priority.

 

The biggest caveat for me at WR is somehow Egbuka falls to 30.  If I were Beane and Egbuka was sitting there at 30, I'd throw away my draft script and take him and then let the chips fall where they may.  He is the one WR who might be available at 30 who would change our offense for the better for the next 5-7 years.

 

 

 

I want to agree with you because you make good points BUT I have zero faith if we drafted all defense it would make a difference come playoff time. Every year we invest in the defense and McD and company do nothing to stop KCs offense. Josh is the only reason we are going to get past the chiefs and he needs more reliable weapons, and weapons that can actually get open. Beane is awful at drafting top end talent early (he’s great at finding late round gems). I really wanted us to go after one of the top 4 WRs last year or at least go to the WR well multiple times in such a stacked draft class. I hope this year Beane finally figures out that with McD coaching this team we need to invest everything around Josh if he wants Buffalo to finally hoist the Lombardi 

[Pete]

6 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Commenting on the veracity of Bond's charges like this is dicey, as we don't KNOW much from our limited perspectives. Slandering female accusers is a go-to move for high profile defendants with well paid legal teams, independent of the truth. 

 

I agree with the others assuming Bond is off the Bills board all together at this point, or at the very least out of consideration on the first two nights. They're not going to pull the trigger before KC does, for example. 

 

Pearce Jr is another guy who might not be considered draftable by McBeane, unless they decide the locker room is ready to absorb such a risk. To my understanding he has off-field chatter, and moreover there's noise about his character "in the building." So football character concerns, if the couple reports I've heard/read are to be believed. Or maybe those "on-field" flags are more addressable with a strong culture. I don't know. Some pundit last week compared Pearce to Javon Kearse ffs. 

Jermaine Burton comparisons.  Joe Marino said he’s heard some of Bond warnings, and it’s not good.  No way do Bills poison their locker room with Boyd

[SoonerBillsFan]

8 hours ago, NeverOutNick said:

So we will go into the season with the worst WR corps in the league? Shakir is the only proven legitimate NFL WR on our roster. Superman Josh again, why not

I definitely hope you’re right because this is the worst WR corps we’ve ever had. Outside of Shakir we have part time, rotational players at best

Coleman needs to step up. Palmer who we just signed, has outstanding separation ability which we need.

 

That said I feel Shakir. Coleman and Palmer are all we have as Samuel did nothing.

 

We must draft a WR and I hope it's in round 2.

[Kaenon]

14 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

After all THE WR wetalked to, after McDermott specifically saying we must be able to attack vertically,you don't see in the first 3 - 4 picks at latest?

 

We are going to take a WR sooner in the draft than people think.

Obviously Josh is a huge part of it, but offense was not our problem last year, or any year in the playoffs against KC 

Every season we've lost in the playoffs because of our Defense (CIN game and the extra-curriculars that season and the night before that game notwithstanding).

 

Now I get that Josh being Josh won't preclude us from taking a WR or even an early WR, but this years class is a far cry from last season's draft class.

 

Maybe Jalen Royals end of Rd. 2 or Tory Horton in the 4th (or trade back into the 3rd) for me.

I don't think the earlier guys are worth it, and we're not giving up the farm for Hunter or McMillan.

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Kaenon said:

Obviously Josh is a huge part of it, but offense was not our problem last year, or any year in the playoffs against KC 

Every season we've lost in the playoffs because of our Defense (CIN game and the extra-curriculars that season and the night before that game notwithstanding).

 

Now I get that Josh being Josh won't preclude us from taking a WR or even an early WR, but this years class is a far cry from last season's draft class.

 

Maybe Jalen Royals end of Rd. 2 or Tory Horton in the 4th (or trade back into the 3rd) for me.

I don't think the earlier guys are worth it, and we're not giving up the farm for Hunter or McMillan.

I get it. I want DT,CB in that order with our 1st 2 picks.  But teams are going to gameplan on what we did last year and it's going to be damn hard to replicate it.

 

Even McDermott said we MUST be able to stretch the field vertically.   I like the Palmer signing,but we are lacking at WR and it must be a priority in this draft.  

 

If we don't go DT, CB AND WR, with our first 3 picks, I'll be disappointed. 

Edited Sunday at 01:37 PM by SoonerBillsFan

[chris heff]

I think it’s a toss up between CB and DT in the first. I don’t know what it would take to move up in the second to end up with Amos and Grant, but I would try. After the first and second round it becomes exponentially more difficult to predict.

Edited Sunday at 02:44 PM by chris heff

[gonzo1105]

My top 5 players that are great fits for the Bills are: 

 

Trey Amos CB Miss

Ty Robinson DT Nebraska

Teddye Buchanan LB Cal

Jaydon Blue/Brashard Smith RB 

Jalen Royals WR Utah State 

[OldTimer1960]

10 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

What?  Palmer is a proven NFL receiver.  Samuel is a proven NFL receiver.  They aren't stars and Brady needs to rethink how he utilized (or didn't utilize) Samuel, but they are proven NFL players.  Just FYI: Samuel has 4 seasons in his career with over 600 yards receiving, including one with 800+ yards.  Palmer has 3 of 580+ in his 4 NFL season including one over 750 yards.  Palmer has averaged over 15 yards per catch in the last 2 seasons.  

 

Beane is investing up to $12 mill a season in Palmer.  He is going to play the Amari Cooper role this coming season with probably just as good or better results.  That said, I agree on wanting more vertical threat(s) down the field and guys like Felton, Kyle Williams, Arian Smith and Thornton can deliver that ability.  

I’m not intending to dump on Palmer, but on paper I think the Bills’ WR are bottom 1/3 of the league at best.  Palmer has proven to be a good backup WR, but never became a consistent starter even on a Chargers team with little at the WR position.  Keon Coleman showed some ability last year before his injury, but was basically a zero after returning and we know he wasn’t good at getting open to begin with.  Will he become a better route runner and tougher at the catch point?  I hope so, but who know what they will get from him.  I agree on Curtis Samuel - I think they will get a lot more from him this year if he stays healthy.  
 

My opinion, fwiw, is that they need legitimate talent at WR but I don’t see much of that available in this draft class and the needs at DT, CB and even DE are more important (and probably line up better with this draft class) than WR.

[GASabresIUFan]

1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said:

I’m not intending to dump on Palmer, but on paper I think the Bills’ WR are bottom 1/3 of the league at best.  Palmer has proven to be a good backup WR, but never became a consistent starter even on a Chargers team with little at the WR position.  Keon Coleman showed some ability last year before his injury, but was basically a zero after returning and we know he wasn’t good at getting open to begin with.  Will he become a better route runner and tougher at the catch point?  I hope so, but who know what they will get from him.  I agree on Curtis Samuel - I think they will get a lot more from him this year if he stays healthy.  
 

My opinion, fwiw, is that they need legitimate talent at WR but I don’t see much of that available in this draft class and the needs at DT, CB and even DE are more important (and probably line up better with this draft class) than WR.

No one thinks this is anywhere near the best WR room in the NFL.  Everyone wants it to be better, including Beane and Josh.  However, our passing attack isn't predicated on WRs as much as WRs, TEs and RBs.  We may have the best group of pass catching RBs in the NFL with 3 guys who can catch, break tackles and out run defenders.  Kincaid, when healthy, is as dangerous as most WRs and brings size.   The truth is what is truly missing is someone who can take the top off the defense. Coleman, who should improve in year 2, isn't that guy. Samuel has the speed, but no one has every utilized him in that manner.  Palmer can get down field, but isn't a HR threat.  

 

In this draft there are guys with that HR ability and the good news for the Bills is that most of those guys are actually Rd 4-5 players.  

[CookieG]

2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I get it. I want DT,CB in that order with our 1st 2 picks.  But teams are going to gameplan on what we did last year and it's going to be damn hard to replicate it.

 

Even McDermott said we MUST be able to stretch the field vertically.   I like the Palmer signing, but we are lacking at WR and it must be a priority in this draft.  

 

If we don't go DT, CB AND WR, with our first 3 picks, I'll be disappointed. 

Yeah, it depends who is there at 30...and its a classic case of how the board falls. 

 

Example, in my latest mock, Amos and Hairston were both off the board.  So Im not sure there was going to be a Round 1 CB available. I can see something like that happening, because the CB group seems to drop off pretty quick after them.

 

But as a door was shut, a window was open. Nolen was available at 30, so it wasn't a difficult decision.  

 

I missed out on CB (maybe), but I like the way the rest of the positions came out:

 

30 Walter Nolen DL | Mississippi

A+

Again, not a difficult choice in a position of need.

 

56 Jayden Higgins WR | Iowa State

A+

Everyone is looking for a pure speed burner at WR and I agree for the most part.  Higgins is big at 6'4" 215 but he's not slow.  He did a 4.47 at the Combine.  More importantly, the one word that comes to describe him is ....smooth.  About 1200 yards last year and that was sharing targets with Jaylin Noel. A favorite of Greg Cosell.  If you watch him run routes, he glides in and out.  

 

What really sold me was watching Steve Smith discuss him.  But right before that, I saw that he did an e v a l on Coleman's rookie season and he kind of slammed him.  (Nah, he did slam him).  he talked about wasted movement, wasted steps.  There were enough "WTF is he doing?" comments.  

Then when I watched him break down Higgins, it was the opposite.  Footwork, spatial awareness, smoothness.  

He has what Coleman doesn't.  

 

He can get open at the 2nd and 3rd levels.  Steve Sith gives a comp of Mike Evans.  Im thinking Jordy Nelson.

 

62 Xavier Watts S | Notre Dame

A+

 

SAfety position still needs work.  And Im less confident that Cole Bishop gets it, but part of that was waiting for Kair Elam to get it. 

So Mr. Instincts was available, not a difficult choice.

 

109 Ashton Gillotte  EDGE | Louisville

B+

 

In the ever elusive search for an edge rusher, Mr. Lower Body comes off the board.  Really strong in the lower body, you can see it.  And some bend to him.  Not sure why his numbers fell off a bit last year, but he had an outstanding 2023.   Well worth taking a shot at him. 

 

132

 

Zah Frazier

CB | UTSA

B+

 

Finally a CB .  All American JUCO, all conference at a small school UTSA.  Tall  (6'3")  with excellent speed.  4.35 at the Combine.  6 ints and 9 PBU last year.  

 

 

169 David Walker EDGE | Central Arkansas

B+

 

Double dipping on the edge rusher pool.  Mr. Backfield resident.  Had over 60 TFL's and 30 sacks over the past 3 years in a small school.

 

Shorter at 6'1", shorter arms at 32", but at 265, packs a punch and knows how to get there. 

 

The small school thing is a bit of a concern, but then, he was doing the same thing during Senior Bowl week, he was doing the same thing.

 

 

170 Jaydon Blue RB | Texas

A+

 

picked for speed out of the backfield.  Nothing else. End of convo.

 

173 Bilhal Kone CB | Western Michigan

D

 

Its late in day 3, best CB left at 173.  Size and  speed is good.  17 PBUs in the past 2 years.  Worth a shot. 

 

177 J.J. Pegues DL | Mississippi

B+

 

Nolen gets his teammate to line up next to.  Equally important, the Tush Push is gone.  he was used in short yardage situations. 7 tds and 18  first downs isn't bad for a DT.   He's big enough, strong enough and gets in the backfield enough.

  

206 Isaac TeSlaa WR | Arkansas

B+

 

Eh, good speed, really good ypc average.  Over 19 yards...not a bad way to end the draft. 

 

 

Not happy with the CB position, here's hoping Tre shows something more in his road to recovery.  Personally, after an Achilles injury, I have always looked at the season they return as a throw away/rehab year.  

 

Its usually year 2 of the return that they actually come back..if they come back at all.

 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

19 minutes ago, CookieG said:

Yeah, it depends who is there at 30...and its a classic case of how the board falls. 

 

Example, in my latest mock, Amos and Hairston were both off the board.  So Im not sure there was going to be a Round 1 CB available. I can see something like that happening, because the CB group seems to drop off pretty quick after them.

 

But as a door was shut, a window was open. Nolen was available at 30, so it wasn't a difficult decision.  

 

I missed out on CB (maybe), but I like the way the rest of the positions came out:

 

30 Walter Nolen DL | Mississippi

A+

Again, not a difficult choice in a position of need.

 

56 Jayden Higgins WR | Iowa State

A+

Everyone is looking for a pure speed burner at WR and I agree for the most part.  Higgins is big at 6'4" 215 but he's not slow.  He did a 4.47 at the Combine.  More importantly, the one word that comes to describe him is ....smooth.  About 1200 yards last year and that was sharing targets with Jaylin Noel. A favorite of Greg Cosell.  If you watch him run routes, he glides in and out.  

 

What really sold me was watching Steve Smith discuss him.  But right before that, I saw that he did an e v a l on Coleman's rookie season and he kind of slammed him.  (Nah, he did slam him).  he talked about wasted movement, wasted steps.  There were enough "WTF is he doing?" comments.  

Then when I watched him break down Higgins, it was the opposite.  Footwork, spatial awareness, smoothness.  

He has what Coleman doesn't.  

 

He can get open at the 2nd and 3rd levels.  Steve Sith gives a comp of Mike Evans.  Im thinking Jordy Nelson.

 

62 Xavier Watts S | Notre Dame

A+

 

SAfety position still needs work.  And Im less confident that Cole Bishop gets it, but part of that was waiting for Kair Elam to get it. 

So Mr. Instincts was available, not a difficult choice.

 

109 Ashton Gillotte  EDGE | Louisville

B+

 

In the ever elusive search for an edge rusher, Mr. Lower Body comes off the board.  Really strong in the lower body, you can see it.  And some bend to him.  Not sure why his numbers fell off a bit last year, but he had an outstanding 2023.   Well worth taking a shot at him. 

 

132

 

Zah Frazier

CB | UTSA

B+

 

Finally a CB .  All American JUCO, all conference at a small school UTSA.  Tall  (6'3")  with excellent speed.  4.35 at the Combine.  6 ints and 9 PBU last year.  

 

 

169 David Walker EDGE | Central Arkansas

B+

 

Double dipping on the edge rusher pool.  Mr. Backfield resident.  Had over 60 TFL's and 30 sacks over the past 3 years in a small school.

 

Shorter at 6'1", shorter arms at 32", but at 265, packs a punch and knows how to get there. 

 

The small school thing is a bit of a concern, but then, he was doing the same thing during Senior Bowl week, he was doing the same thing.

 

 

170 Jaydon Blue RB | Texas

A+

 

picked for speed out of the backfield.  Nothing else. End of convo.

 

173 Bilhal Kone CB | Western Michigan

D

 

Its late in day 3, best CB left at 173.  Size and  speed is good.  17 PBUs in the past 2 years.  Worth a shot. 

 

177 J.J. Pegues DL | Mississippi

B+

 

Nolen gets his teammate to line up next to.  Equally important, the Tush Push is gone.  he was used in short yardage situations. 7 tds and 18  first downs isn't bad for a DT.   He's big enough, strong enough and gets in the backfield enough.

  

206 Isaac TeSlaa WR | Arkansas

B+

 

Eh, good speed, really good ypc average.  Over 19 yards...not a bad way to end the draft. 

 

 

Not happy with the CB position, here's hoping Tre shows something more in his road to recovery.  Personally, after an Achilles injury, I have always looked at the season they return as a throw away/rehab year.  

 

Its usually year 2 of the return that they actually come back..if they come back at all.

 

 

Personally I love that draft.

[OldTimer1960]

21 minutes ago, CookieG said:

Yeah, it depends who is there at 30...and its a classic case of how the board falls. 

 

Example, in my latest mock, Amos and Hairston were both off the board.  So Im not sure there was going to be a Round 1 CB available. I can see something like that happening, because the CB group seems to drop off pretty quick after them.

 

But as a door was shut, a window was open. Nolen was available at 30, so it wasn't a difficult decision.  

 

I missed out on CB (maybe), but I like the way the rest of the positions came out:

 

30 Walter Nolen DL | Mississippi

A+

Again, not a difficult choice in a position of need.

 

56 Jayden Higgins WR | Iowa State

A+

Everyone is looking for a pure speed burner at WR and I agree for the most part.  Higgins is big at 6'4" 215 but he's not slow.  He did a 4.47 at the Combine.  More importantly, the one word that comes to describe him is ....smooth.  About 1200 yards last year and that was sharing targets with Jaylin Noel. A favorite of Greg Cosell.  If you watch him run routes, he glides in and out.  

 

What really sold me was watching Steve Smith discuss him.  But right before that, I saw that he did an e v a l on Coleman's rookie season and he kind of slammed him.  (Nah, he did slam him).  he talked about wasted movement, wasted steps.  There were enough "WTF is he doing?" comments.  

Then when I watched him break down Higgins, it was the opposite.  Footwork, spatial awareness, smoothness.  

He has what Coleman doesn't.  

 

He can get open at the 2nd and 3rd levels.  Steve Sith gives a comp of Mike Evans.  Im thinking Jordy Nelson.

 

62 Xavier Watts S | Notre Dame

A+

 

SAfety position still needs work.  And Im less confident that Cole Bishop gets it, but part of that was waiting for Kair Elam to get it. 

So Mr. Instincts was available, not a difficult choice.

 

109 Ashton Gillotte  EDGE | Louisville

B+

 

In the ever elusive search for an edge rusher, Mr. Lower Body comes off the board.  Really strong in the lower body, you can see it.  And some bend to him.  Not sure why his numbers fell off a bit last year, but he had an outstanding 2023.   Well worth taking a shot at him. 

 

132

 

Zah Frazier

CB | UTSA

B+

 

Finally a CB .  All American JUCO, all conference at a small school UTSA.  Tall  (6'3")  with excellent speed.  4.35 at the Combine.  6 ints and 9 PBU last year.  

 

 

169 David Walker EDGE | Central Arkansas

B+

 

Double dipping on the edge rusher pool.  Mr. Backfield resident.  Had over 60 TFL's and 30 sacks over the past 3 years in a small school.

 

Shorter at 6'1", shorter arms at 32", but at 265, packs a punch and knows how to get there. 

 

The small school thing is a bit of a concern, but then, he was doing the same thing during Senior Bowl week, he was doing the same thing.

 

 

170 Jaydon Blue RB | Texas

A+

 

picked for speed out of the backfield.  Nothing else. End of convo.

 

173 Bilhal Kone CB | Western Michigan

D

 

Its late in day 3, best CB left at 173.  Size and  speed is good.  17 PBUs in the past 2 years.  Worth a shot. 

 

177 J.J. Pegues DL | Mississippi

B+

 

Nolen gets his teammate to line up next to.  Equally important, the Tush Push is gone.  he was used in short yardage situations. 7 tds and 18  first downs isn't bad for a DT.   He's big enough, strong enough and gets in the backfield enough.

  

206 Isaac TeSlaa WR | Arkansas

B+

 

Eh, good speed, really good ypc average.  Over 19 yards...not a bad way to end the draft. 

 

 

Not happy with the CB position, here's hoping Tre shows something more in his road to recovery.  Personally, after an Achilles injury, I have always looked at the season they return as a throw away/rehab year.  

 

Its usually year 2 of the return that they actually come back..if they come back at all.

 

 

No knock on the picks, but if they get to 62 and don't like the CBs, I think they have to either trade back to a spot where they are comfortable with a CB or just reach about 1/2 round for one.  Every year, round 2 seems to produce some CB picks that seem to be pretty good sized reaches based on speed/athletic upside.

 

I don't think they can contemplate having a multi-time seriously injured Tre White and Dane Jackson as their plan for CB2 for the full year.  I do think White and Jackson give them room to wait for an injured Revel Jr or Morrison or an inexperienced Darien Porter to get up to speed by mid-late season.  

 

I'm not knocking who you picked, but I can't see going into day 3 without a CB having been selected.

[chris heff]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

No one thinks this is anywhere near the best WR room in the NFL.  Everyone wants it to be better, including Beane and Josh.  However, our passing attack isn't predicated on WRs as much as WRs, TEs and RBs.  We may have the best group of pass catching RBs in the NFL with 3 guys who can catch, break tackles and out run defenders.  Kincaid, when healthy, is as dangerous as most WRs and brings size.   The truth is what is truly missing is someone who can take the top off the defense. Coleman, who should improve in year 2, isn't that guy. Samuel has the speed, but no one has every utilized him in that manner.  Palmer can get down field, but isn't a HR threat.  

 

In this draft there are guys with that HR ability and the good news for the Bills is that most of those guys are actually Rd 4-5 players.  

Draft one of them, or two and Josh will make them a star.

[BillsShredder83]

On 4/19/2025 at 12:39 PM, gonzo1105 said:

There is talk about Schlesinger going in round 1 and will most likely go top 40. Bond is probably off the board especially after Araiza situation. Alexander prob goes before the Bills pick as well 

Yeah, theres another thread on Bond.  Highly unlikely dude gets drafted, PR nightmare to the highest degree.  Were not talking SA allegation, we're talking about a SA arrest.  He essentially admitted it in text form and tried to bribe her with $1k.  Her response was what???? You want to give me a grand to shut up?  His answer "ok 2 grand". yyyyiiiiiikkkkkeeeessss.

 

as much as i like the idea of getting a 1st rd talent on a damaged goods price, that Araiza situation was absolute helllllllll here for what 3 days?  Even  as a fan i cant imagine trying to weather that storm, it'd be a spicy one for rest of off-season,  regular season, playoffs, and only quiet down year 2.

 

This is me just as a fan, talking about the smallest of the problems here^^^ and that alone is enough to count me out.  

[gonzo1105]

5 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Yeah, theres another thread on Bond.  Highly unlikely dude gets drafted, PR nightmare to the highest degree.  Were not talking SA allegation, we're talking about a SA arrest.  He essentially admitted it in text form and tried to bribe her with $1k.  Her response was what???? You want to give me a grand to shut up?  His answer "ok 2 grand". yyyyiiiiiikkkkkeeeessss.

 

as much as i like the idea of getting a 1st rd talent on a damaged goods price, that Araiza situation was absolute helllllllll here for what 3 days?  Even  as a fan i cant imagine trying to weather that storm, it'd be a spicy one for rest of off-season,  regular season, playoffs, and only quiet down year 2.

 

This is me just as a fan, talking about the smallest of the problems here^^^ and that alone is enough to count me out.  

Yea I get it I’m in round 6 and I don’t have him drafted of my 7 rounder so far debating if someone would take a chance but I doubt it he prob goes undrafted. The Bills won’t even consider it