4merper4mer Posted Friday at 10:54 PM Posted Friday at 10:54 PM 3 hours ago, FireChans said: Sure but also Tre’s bad tape out there from 2024 hurt his market, right? I don’t mind taking the risk because it’s pennies, but the reason it’s pennies is likely because there’s no bidding war for Tre’s services. dont tell @4merper4mer but it’s the same reason Von isn’t on a team right now. Hope he can regain form here. Would be a huge boost. Why aren’t you whining about Darrick Forrest? He’s cheap and coming off an injury. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted Friday at 10:58 PM Posted Friday at 10:58 PM (edited) 20 minutes ago, Joe Marino said: Well, the cupboard isn’t bare at all now. It’s got up to $6.8 million piece. So there you go. All ready to draft. However else could we proceed!? Right. Because we signed Dane and Tre. You were saying that wasn't what a "GM worth their salt" would do... 24 minutes ago, BananaB said: If the board didn’t fall right Tre could easily been signed after. You are talking like he had teams knocking on his door since FA started and Beane jumped in and snagged him for insurance. Some of this could also be to make the hole less glaring. With what they've done as far as pre-Draft work and visits with CB's - it's pretty obvious to teams what we're going to do. This makes it a little more ambiguous when we're on the clock. Case in point, half of the posters on here seem to think CB is off the table now. Edited Friday at 10:59 PM by BillsFanForever19 2 Quote
3rdand12 Posted Friday at 11:13 PM Posted Friday at 11:13 PM 11 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Right. Because we signed Dane and Tre. You were saying that wasn't what a "GM worth their salt" would do... Some of this could also be to make the hole less glaring. With what they've done as far as pre-Draft work and visits with CB's - it's pretty obvious to teams what we're going to do. This makes it a little more ambiguous when we're on the clock. Case in point, half of the posters on here seem to think CB is off the table now. Looks to me they are ready for a project to develop under the veterans White and Jackson I may not like drafting in the 1st round a CB project. It's still a need to win football games this season. They are drafting one. Where !? WHEN ? Quote
PrimeTime101 Posted Friday at 11:31 PM Posted Friday at 11:31 PM 1 hour ago, Joe Marino said: That’s crap. If you’re any GM worth your salt. You don’t need a $6.8 million security blanket to go get what your team actually needs. this reply is crap period. You have any clue how much of that is guaranteed money? Doubt it. Every draft pick 30+ is a COIN FLIP. You want to risk the next season with another Elam 2.0? Doubt it.. Would you be happy if Dane Jackson started 6 games? Doubt it. Get over the $$$ 1 Quote
Toyo321 Posted Friday at 11:47 PM Posted Friday at 11:47 PM Absolute waste of money at this point. Our team needs to get better you don't do this by signing a Vet that was released from the team due to major injuries and has been on the decline since he was let go.. Unreal what they are smoking in their pipes at One Bills Drive. Yeah bad move by Buffalo and for wasting money on an non impactful player... 1 2 1 1 2 Quote
jcamm1966 Posted Saturday at 12:17 AM Posted Saturday at 12:17 AM 29 minutes ago, Toyo321 said: Absolute waste of money at this point. Our team needs to get better you don't do this by signing a Vet that was released from the team due to major injuries and has been on the decline since he was let go.. Unreal what they are smoking in their pipes at One Bills Drive. Yeah bad move by Buffalo and for wasting money on an non impactful player... Elam vs Tre I'll take Tre 3 1 Quote
without a drought Posted Saturday at 01:10 AM Posted Saturday at 01:10 AM I think they should have made it up to $31mil with incentives. 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted Saturday at 01:18 AM Posted Saturday at 01:18 AM On 4/17/2025 at 6:32 PM, Virgil said: Hopefully he’s healed up. He got smoked a lot last year. If the Ravens didn’t want him back, that’s saying something perhaps he is a better fit in this D scheme. I have no clue what Rams do. So it’s me hoping. Quote
FireChans Posted Saturday at 01:44 AM Author Posted Saturday at 01:44 AM 2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: Why aren’t you whining about Darrick Forrest? He’s cheap and coming off an injury. You’re arguing with the voices in your head again 1 Quote
Jimmy Harris 69 Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM Posted Saturday at 01:47 AM I’m surprised frankly. I wonder if he will even be around by the end of camp. He was a liability on the field last year. This strikes me as McDermott again valuing an old head over an athlete. ( Klein over Williams) (Hyde over Cine) His reliance on slow veteran players against the best talent has not been very successful. He took Tre’s injury pretty hard a few years ago. This, while a nice story, seems like an expensive solution for cornerback depth. How is White better than Douglas, a less damaged FA, or a righteous draft pick? I know, I’m a downer. 4 1 Quote
Perk71 Posted Saturday at 01:59 AM Posted Saturday at 01:59 AM 2 hours ago, Toyo321 said: Absolute waste of money at this point. Our team needs to get better you don't do this by signing a Vet that was released from the team due to major injuries and has been on the decline since he was let go.. Unreal what they are smoking in their pipes at One Bills Drive. Yeah bad move by Buffalo and for wasting money on an non impactful player... I always laugh when I hear waste of money. It's not our money 🤙🏼 Go Bills!! 1 Quote
Shaw66 Posted Saturday at 02:24 AM Posted Saturday at 02:24 AM 5 hours ago, BananaB said: 🤷🏼♂️ I’m sick of the same results from doing the same thing year after year. They win but don’t achieve the ultimate goal. I feel your pain. Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted Saturday at 02:32 AM Posted Saturday at 02:32 AM (edited) 47 minutes ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said: This, while a nice story, seems like an expensive solution for cornerback depth. How is White better than Douglas, a less damaged FA, or a righteous draft pick? I know, I’m a downer. 6.8m isn't all that expensive to begin with for a CB. And anytime you hear "up to" - that's code for "not even close to what they're really being paid". As for concern over who they're choosing to replacing Douglas - did you watch Rasul Douglas last season? He was truly dreadful. There's a reason we let him walk and he's still out there. He gave up a 73% completion percentage when targeted. If it's Douglas or a competition between a Draft Pick, White, and Jackson - I'll take the latter all day. Douglas looked truly toast and I don't think he's going to bounce back at 31. Edited Saturday at 02:35 AM by BillsFanForever19 Quote
Turbo44 Posted Saturday at 02:41 AM Posted Saturday at 02:41 AM 2 hours ago, Toyo321 said: Absolute waste of money at this point. Our team needs to get better you don't do this by signing a Vet that was released from the team due to major injuries and has been on the decline since he was let go.. Unreal what they are smoking in their pipes at One Bills Drive. Yeah bad move by Buffalo and for wasting money on an non impactful player... Your money? And exactly what’s the cap hit? Yeah we don’t know so why the angst? Quote
BananaB Posted Saturday at 02:49 AM Posted Saturday at 02:49 AM (edited) 2 hours ago, jcamm1966 said: Elam vs Tre I'll take Tre This signing has nothing to do with Elam. Anyone complaining knows It’s about McD bringing back washed up vets because the know his system. Edited Saturday at 02:49 AM by BananaB 1 Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted Saturday at 03:01 AM Posted Saturday at 03:01 AM 3 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Looks to me they are ready for a project to develop under the veterans White and Jackson I may not like drafting in the 1st round a CB project. It's still a need to win football games this season. They are drafting one. Where !? WHEN ? Or maybe it's insurance so they can take a stud DLineman at 30 then a project like Darien Porter in the 2nd plus a CB double dip on day 3. I wouldn't mind Tre mentoring in a situation like that, not one bit 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted Saturday at 03:14 AM Posted Saturday at 03:14 AM 22 minutes ago, BananaB said: This signing has nothing to do with Elam. Anyone complaining knows It’s about McD bringing back washed up vets because the know his system. 22 minutes ago, BananaB said: This signing has nothing to do with Elam. Anyone complaining knows It’s about McD bringing back washed up vets because the know his system. And there it is. The people who are complaining KNOW. It’s not their opinion, it’s their knowledge and expertise. The people who aren’t complaining are just ignorant dupes who will never measure up to the true genius of the complainers. 1 3 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted Saturday at 04:37 AM Posted Saturday at 04:37 AM Funny stuff in here with the knee jerk doomers who don't see any room for nuance or uncertainty. A Tre White/Dane Jackson platoon at CB2 DOES unfortunately sound very McBeaney. Think Levi Wallace, Josh Norman, Kevin Johnson, EJ Gaines, Vontae Davis LOL, Dane Jackson et al. But there is ZERO indication that the Bills still won't add one or more prospects to the position group. They might even still spend a top-100 pick on the position. We don't even know the actual guaranteed money in Tre's deal. Maybe it's just an educated gamble, knowing the floor is a Micah Hyde-like presence in the room and on the sidelines, and the ceiling is a steady CB2 who's only 30 and now entering his 2nd year removed from major injury. Would be a bit of an overpay if he just can't play anymore, but could be a nice value if he CAN. Still need at least one more viable CB2 candidate, no doubt. And that will come from the draft and post-draft process. Benford was drafted when? Johnson was drafted when? Good fits are there to be found in his draft. Rounds 2-4 appear to be loaded with potential starters. 2 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted Saturday at 05:16 AM Posted Saturday at 05:16 AM 11 hours ago, Dr. K said: Does this suggest that the Bills consider Tre White better than Rasul Douglas at this point? There is no way for them to know. What they know is that White was a two-time pro bowler. He is a couple years removed from a devastating injury. It's reasonable to assume that the injury was a major factor in his struggle with the Rams. He was somewhat improved in Baltimore. It's not outrageous to think that another season removed from the injury could bring further improvement. Given that CB is the most obvious need heading into the draft, the very modest risk he presents is easily worth it. Better than Rasul Douglas? We can't be sure, but the pre-injury Tre White was. Tre White is not young, but he's younger than Douglas, and Douglas looked like he was pretty much spent last season. It wasn't due to injury. He just looked old. He's not going to be any better this season, but Tre White might be. 2 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted Saturday at 08:22 AM Posted Saturday at 08:22 AM 16 hours ago, YattaOkasan said: PFR is great https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WhitTr01.htm Penalties not included but the Balt play looks significantly better Thanks very much for posting this. It's a small sample size but the difference between Tre's performance with the Rams vs with the Ravens is like night and day. And yes, not only is Pro Football Reference great, it's also free. 1 1 Quote
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