Return of the Tre! (Tre White signs with the Bills)

[ProcessTruster]

have to think he'll eventually be cut as he is either the starter or he's out, bc he does not play special teams

[BananaB]

7 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

 

And there it is.  The people who are complaining KNOW.  It’s not their opinion, it’s their knowledge and expertise.  The people who aren’t complaining are just ignorant dupes who will never measure up to the true genius of the complainers.

That’s part of a message board. You can flip that statement completely and it still be true. If everybody agreed it would probably be pretty ***** boring on here. 

[BlazinBill]

Yeah - this is not the best move made this offseason- oh well potential depth I guess- interested in seeing actual contract numbers but it’s also not my money and I have not studied in the wizardry of GMship- so I guess I’ll wait to see how this all plays out- Go Bills

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

Thanks very much for posting this.

 

It's a small sample size but the difference between Tre's performance with the Rams vs with the Ravens is like night and day.

 

And yes, not only is Pro Football Reference great, it's also free.

 

 

he hardly played in BAL.  not a single PD after thanksgiving.  he was down to 20 +/- snaps for most games, a tackle here and there against teams that hardly pass (Steelers, Philly) or just terrible at it (Giants).

[4merper4mer]

15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

he hardly played in BAL.  not a single PD after thanksgiving.  he was down to 20 +/- snaps for most games, a tackle here and there against teams that hardly pass (Steelers, Philly) or just terrible at it (Giants).

Jokes on you.  Diggs is coming off an ACL and you gave him huge $.  Yet here you are mocking the Bills again..

[GaryPinC]

18 hours ago, FireChans said:

Sure but also Tre’s bad tape out there from 2024 hurt his market, right?

 

I don’t mind taking the risk because it’s pennies, but the reason it’s pennies is likely because there’s no bidding war for Tre’s services. 
 

dont tell @4merper4mer but it’s the same reason Von isn’t on a team right now. 
 

Hope he can regain form here. Would be a huge boost.

Sure, his bad tape is all part of the picture and the gamble.  It wasn't a surprise he struggled last year. 

 

The only potential intriguing aspect is why Baltimore didn't re-sign him,  but it could be as simple as Tre feels better in our defense.  We'll see!

 

[rusty shackleford]

Tre White is one of all time favorite Bills. I love his personality and his level of play at his peak was pretty great. Just not sure if he will ever bounce back from his injuries. Glad he is back with the team, just skeptical on how much he will actually contribute this year.

[Don Otreply]

19 hours ago, ngbills said:

On the flip side, there is also the "with what money" crowd when there is a guy people want to sign or the team misses out on. When you have limited funds, not sure gambling on a guy that has been either hurt or not productive since 2021. We have gone down this road before (Josh Norman) and expect a different result. 

Oh well, it’s not my money it’s not my decision, when the draft is over we will see what the team looks like, 

[MarlinTheMagician]

Tre will surprise.  He is going to be more than solid.  Perfect add to work in our new highly-drafted CB.  And then back up both Benford and the rook when the rookie takes over.  Smart, smart move!

[ColoradoBills]

Until I see differently, I'm sure that the Tre White contract will not make him a "lock".

Beane will draft a CB that in both his and McDermott's minds will hopefully be starting sometime during the year.

 

I have Johnson, Benford and the Rookie (1st - 4th round) as locks.

At least one of Lewis/Jackson will no doubt make the 53.

It's going to be a battle for the other 2 CB slots.

 

The secondary is going through a big change, and I bet they will wait and see who plays best together.

[Sierra Foothills]

6 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

It's a small sample size but the difference between Tre's performance with the Rams vs with the Ravens is like night and day.

 

And yes, not only is Pro Football Reference great, it's also free.

 

 

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

He hardly played in BAL.  not a single PD after thanksgiving.  he was down to 20 +/- snaps for most games, a tackle here and there against teams that hardly pass (Steelers, Philly) or just terrible at it (Giants).

 

As I said, small sample size.

 

1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:

Sure, his bad tape is all part of the picture and the gamble.  It wasn't a surprise he struggled last year. 

 

The only potential intriguing aspect is why Baltimore didn't re-sign him,  but it could be as simple as Tre feels better in our defense.  We'll see!

 

 

Again, I'm flabbergasted that the Rams thought he would be able to play 11 months after rupturing his achilles.

 

As for the Ravens, they're not in the habit of giving up good players. My belief is that they had a standing offer to Tre but between a bit more money and his relationship with the Bills, it was an easy choice for him to make.

 

Just my guess.

 

[Maine-iac]

On 4/18/2025 at 10:18 AM, hondo in seattle said:

 

All I've seen was that he had a 52.9 rating from PFF for the entire season - putting him in the bottom 25% of NFL CBs. 

 

Do you have a Rams/Ravens breakdown? 

 

But as I recall, Tre didn't participate in OTAs last year, so he was far from fully recovered.  Really hoping he's healthier and better this season.  

Went out to a Mexican restaurant and had a few too many margaritas yesterday.    Looking back at it his first 3 games were bad but they were also in a new defense and 2 of the games were vs Detroit and SF.  After the first 3 games he settled in fairly well or at least enough to hope he's still got something left.  In case someone else hasn't posted it already.

 

 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WhitTr01/gamelog/2024/advanced/

Edited Saturday at 03:19 PM by Maine-iac

[Maine-iac]

Also White played 20 or more snaps in all but two games with Baltimore and 30 plus snaps in his playoff game against us where he gave up a 70 rating when thrown at.

 

Snap counts for each game are here:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WhitTr01/gamelog/2024/

 

ps interesting note is that White played special teams for the Rams while he was there.  He had 20 special teams snaps with them.

Edited Saturday at 03:29 PM by Maine-iac

[Dillenger4]

On 4/18/2025 at 11:05 AM, Big Turk said:

 

guarantee much of that money is incentives(hence the "up to" reference) that is highly unlikely to be seen unless he returns to previous form.

I sure hope so. We will see.

[TheBeaneBandit]

I'll take a stab: contract is probably 2 to 3 M base. Tre gets 1.5M if he plays 80% of the snaps, 1.5M if he makes the pro bowl, and 1.5M if the Bills win the super bowl. It's most likely somewhere along these lines folks calm down.

[Dillenger4]

12 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

6.8m isn't all that expensive to begin with for a CB. And anytime you hear "up to" - that's code for "not even close to what they're really being paid".

 

As for concern over who they're choosing to replacing Douglas - did you watch Rasul Douglas last season? He was truly dreadful. There's a reason we let him walk and he's still out there. He gave up a 73% completion percentage when targeted.

 

If it's Douglas or a competition between a Draft Pick, White, and Jackson - I'll take the latter all day. Douglas looked truly toast and I don't think he's going to bounce back at 31.

Just insert "White" everywhere you wrote "Douglas" above and what difference does it make?? ZERO. Tre is busted and was pretty useless even after his first injury in NO years ago. We cut him dude. You are correct in that Rasul wasn't very good in the latter part of last season as too was injured. They are both useless for our team. So why the heck did Beane make this move? Even for $1 million it's a joke. Put that $ towards Cook and draft a CB. Let Dane "mentor" him and hey, maybe let the coaches mentor him.

Unbelievable.

[Mr. WEO]

30 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

 

As I said, small sample size.

 

 

Again, I'm flabbergasted that the Rams thought he would be able to play 11 months after rupturing his achilles.

 

As for the Ravens, they're not in the habit of giving up good players. My belief is that they had a standing offer to Tre but between a bit more money and his relationship with the Bills, it was an easy choice for him to make.

 

Just my guess.

 

yeah read that.  No conclusion for comparison is even possible

[ColoradoBills]

21 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

I'll take a stab: contract is probably 2 to 3 M base. Tre gets 1.5M if he plays 80% of the snaps, 1.5M if he makes the pro bowl, and 1.5M if the Bills win the super bowl. It's most likely somewhere along these lines folks calm down.

 

I would put some of the incentive $s into interceptions too.

 

The bottom line will be base salary and guaranteed money.

I'm seeing no more than $2M salary and no more than $500k guaranteed.

[Mister Defense]

So, the Bills and Cook are likely a few million dollars a year apart in their annual salary expectations.

 

All of the other young up and coming talented Bills have been extended, except for Cook.

 

And Beane does what he does much too often, overpay dramatically for a player who will make almost no, or even zero, difference for the Bills next year.

 

It makes much more sense to use this likely wasted money, and that on others who will provide almost no benefit to the Bills next year, to improve the deal offered to the 2nd best player on offense and likely the 2nd best players on the team, who scored 20--twenty--touchdowns for the Bills last year and was clearly one of the best running backs in the league.

 

I am a Beane supporter overall, but am losing faith with too many moves like this, throwing good money after bad to players who do not deserve it, who could be had for much less, and who will not make the Bills better.  And now, making these moves at the expense of a player who has greatness written all over him, a vital component of the team, and entering the prime of his career.

 

I get it, White's not going to likely make that much etcetera, but White seems done as a quality cornerback in this league.

 

Maybe White will  buy Von Miller's house-- and then just sell it to the next wasted expense next off season. The Bills can buy it and call it the Money Pit.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 04:37 PM by Mister Defense

[TheBeaneBandit]

40 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I would put some of the incentive $s into interceptions too.

 

The bottom line will be base salary and guaranteed money.

I'm seeing no more than $2M salary and no more than $500k guaranteed.

Agreed definitely add some interception incentives in there as well probably a bunch of weird little stuff on top of that.