4merper4mer Posted April 17 Posted April 17 7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: When did overtly pushing a ball carrier become legal? I'm remembering the uproar following that Reggie Bush push conversion (ND vs USC). The play was technically illegal at the time. Was that not also true in the NFL? Rugby "ruck" strategies were not meant to be part of the league, until they were. When did that change? I agree that it must have changed at some point. Unless this is a Mandela Bears thing I know it was illegal at some point. 1 Quote
JP51 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 4 hours ago, BritBill said: That's a shame because I was looking forward to the first ever player to be drafted from a circus or pantomime. I keep seeing that looney tunes cartoon in my head... "There's nothing in the rule book that says an elephant cant pitch" ... 1 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Put Shakir in motion and then flip him over the goal line. He doesn't need to break thin boards though, just secure the ball. I probably know these guys below and can reach out to them. 1 4 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted April 17 Posted April 17 I can totally picture Ted Washington throwing Roscoe Parrish over the line of scrimmage. I’ve also theorized on this message board that it would be cool to train gigantic animals like cows and elephants to play the one technique DT. Nobody’s getting by that ***** 🤣 2 Quote
rusty shackleford Posted April 17 Posted April 17 They show these types of things on ESPN 8, The Ocho. Quote
US Egg Posted April 17 Posted April 17 16 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Put Shakir in motion and then flip him over the goal line. He doesn't need to break thin boards though, just secure the ball. I probably know these guys below and can reach out to them. XP’s and FG’s too. Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted April 17 Posted April 17 8 hours ago, abc said: Nobody tosses a dwarf! 1 Quote
ganesh Posted April 17 Posted April 17 8 hours ago, Joe Marino said: Tush push. Totally legal. Like honestly, what’s the debate? It lost us a chance to go to the SB..TWICE! Quote
pennstate10 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 My memory is a bit hazy, it I’m pretty sure a MLB team sent a little person up to bat as a pinch hitter. Pitcher couldn’t find his strike zone and he walked. but after that it was ruled illegal; something about a MLB clause and “travesty of the game” 1 1 1 Quote
BigAl2526 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 10 hours ago, Joe Marino said: Tush push. Totally legal. Like honestly, what’s the debate? The argument Sean McDermott makes is that it could potentially expose players (primarily the QB) to a greater risk of injury. Buffalo has been successful with their version as has Philadelphia. They are fortunate in that they have big strong QBs who are less prone to injury than most, but the league has shown significant interest in reducing the risk of injury where possible. Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Yeah this thread has gone pretty much the way I imagined it would. 1 Quote
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted April 18 Posted April 18 10 hours ago, pennstate10 said: My memory is a bit hazy, it I’m pretty sure a MLB team sent a little person up to bat as a pinch hitter. Pitcher couldn’t find his strike zone and he walked. but after that it was ruled illegal; something about a MLB clause and “travesty of the game” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel 3'7". Sad ending to his life at age 38. 1 Quote
Puckman5 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 22 hours ago, Capco said: Maybe this is what all the extra linemen are for? Could a little person be intercepted? Would you need to carry them all the way back for a pick 6? Any NFL DB should be able to strip the ball out of their little person hands, no? 2 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) If the tush push gets banned and the Eagles counter with this, give them the Super Bowl. Edited April 18 by C.Biscuit97 1 Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted April 18 Posted April 18 12 hours ago, pennstate10 said: My memory is a bit hazy, it I’m pretty sure a MLB team sent a little person up to bat as a pinch hitter. Pitcher couldn’t find his strike zone and he walked. but after that it was ruled illegal; something about a MLB clause and “travesty of the game” 2 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel 3'7". Sad ending to his life at age 38. "With Bob Cain on the mound—laughing at the absurdity that he actually had to pitch to Gaedel[15]—and catcher Bob Swift catching on his knees, Gaedel took his stance.[1] The Tigers catcher offered his pitcher a piece of strategy: "Keep it low". Cain delivered four consecutive balls, all high (the first two pitches were legitimate attempts at strikes; the last two were half-speed tosses). Gaedel took his base (stopping twice during his trot to bow to the crowd) and was replaced by pinch-runner Jim Delsing. The 18,369 fans gave Gaedel a standing ovation." "American League president Will Harridge, saying Veeck was making a mockery of the game, voided Gaedel's contract the next day. In response, Veeck threatened to request an official ruling on whether Yankees shortstop and reigning American League MVP Phil Rizzuto, who stood 5 feet 6 inches (1.68 m), was a short ballplayer or a tall dwarf." Quote
Sierra Foothills Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Death On June 18, 1961, the unemployed Gaedel, who had just turned 36, was at a bowling alley in Chicago, his birthplace and hometown. Gaedel was followed home and beaten. His mother discovered him lying dead in his bed. He had bruises about his knees and on the left side of his face. A coroner's inquest determined that he also had a heart attack. Bob Cain, who had pitched to Gaedel, was the only Major League Baseball figure to attend the funeral, despite the fact that the two never formally met. Gaedel was interred at Saint Mary Catholic Cemetery and Mausoleum in Cook County, Illinois. His tombstone indicates that his family name may actually have been Gaedele, not Gaedel. 2 Quote
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