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Doomsday is that we drafted more than one offensive players after day 2. Also be upset if draft a Safety in first 3 picks and double dipped any position.  Ideally I want to move out of Round 1 (and maybe one of our late 5ths/early 6th) and get a high 2nd and 3rd Round draft pick in a trade down. Then I'd use our day two picks on Tyleik Williams, a CB and edge rusher. 

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There are no real doomsday scenarios for me in the draft with the position the Bills are in. Even if they sold the farm and traded into like the top 10, I could probably get by with it assuming it was a top DL/CB or even WR type pick. I wouldn't be happy given the cost but I wouldn't consider it doomsday 

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Drafting safety Winston before the third round, given his ACL injury (we already have two new signings who will miss the first six games).

 

Drafting Isiah Bond before the fifth round, with his baggage.

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- Drafting a 1st Rd RB (not named Jeanty)

- Trading up significantly for a RB named Jeanty

- Drafting another mid size 1T that cant hold his space because he has a non stop motor

- Mutliple trade backs to the 2nd rd to take a corner that has no chance of starting

- Over drafting a WR because "he has the best hands they have ever seen" (aka they cant run) 

- Taking a crazy flyer with a high pick on Isaiah Bond

 

any of the above would be doomsday to me

 

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I find it difficult for there not to be a DE, DT, CB or Wr at 30.  I guess not prioritizing DT waiting til 109 to address it.  Now they may get a solid rotational piece there.  I think the defensive line greatly improves with a solid 1 tech 

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Doomsday? That's when Beane trades up for need and runs away from future all-pros at another position.

And bags a replacement-level player.

Unfortunately, this is more common than not, as Logic pointed this out on the Elam reference.

 

I'm in the camp that we should trade back 5-10 slots and pick up a 3rd - a spot for Thorton or a new RB.

 

(PS. Chriss Simms is raving about Kyle Williams who is now going in the 2nd of mocks. He nails the WRs. Let him pick our next one. Think J Jefferson as his #1 in the Diggs trade year, and Brian Wilson Jr as last year's #2 - before Harrison and Odunze. Damn.)

 

Several zone CBs look good at the new spot. Amos, Morrison, Porter, Ravel - one will be available.

Or the better of the DTs.

Repeat with next 2nd.

Third 2nd - K Williams?  Or maybe that Schwesinger LB that could be a massive hit - with he or Bernard replacing Milano next year?

 

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 Not addressing WR at all.  There are a lot of guys early would could come in soon and start, and late speed only guys who could play and stretch the field.  
 

Another doomsday is not addressing CB, DT with a day 1 potential guy. Ideally get a DT, CB and WR in top 3.  


 

Another doomsday:  letting KC trade up and take Kenneth Grant or Amos.  

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16 minutes ago, alg said:

Doomsday? That's when Beane trades up for need and runs away from future all-pros at another position.

And bags a replacement-level player.

Unfortunately, this is more common than not, as Logic pointed this out on the Elam reference.

 

I'm in the camp that we should trade back 5-10 slots and pick up a 3rd - a spot for Thorton or a new RB.

 

(PS. Chriss Simms is raving about Kyle Williams who is now going in the 2nd of mocks. He nails the WRs. Let him pick our next one. Think J Jefferson as his #1 in the Diggs trade year, and Brian Wilson Jr as last year's #2 - before Harrison and Odunze. Damn.)

 

Several zone CBs look good at the new spot. Amos, Morrison, Porter, Ravel - one will be available.

Or the better of the DTs.

Repeat with next 2nd.

Third 2nd - K Williams?  Or maybe that Schwesinger LB that could be a massive hit - with he or Bernard replacing Milano next year?

 

Lying in bed….

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I don't have any doomsday scenarios. There are however some players that I would feel underwhelmed with at #30:

 

Kenneth Grant (unpopular opinion, I know)

Azareye’h Thomas

Tyleik Williams

Nick Emmanwori

JT Tuimoloau

 

But also I'm not going to make any snap judgments on any pick we make. The last time I had a snap negative judgment on a pick it was Josh Allen. I've learned my lesson.

 

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yeah, the Bills being good has really ruined the draft (and all pre-draft activities) for me. No telling who will be there at 30, or what that talent pool looks like.

 

I guess I'll take it :thumbsup: But I do miss the days of diving into all the top-prospect data and locking in on a guy I covet.

 

Weirdly enough I feel the opposite. I find that the lead up to the draft is a lot more fun when I have no clue who we're going to take. There's at least a dozen different players that are realistic options for us and I've enjoyed evaluating them all and developing my preferences. 

 

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4 hours ago, Logic said:

1. Brandon Beane leaves a critical position undermanned, telegraphing to every other team in the league that we want to draft a player at that position with our first or second round pick and forcing our hand in doing so even if the true Best Player Available plays a different position.

 

2. Stop me if you've heard this one before: Having only Dane Jackson penciled in as one of your starting outside corners and thus being forced to draft a cornerback late in the first even though there are better players on the board. 

Two different ways of describing the same problem, I suppose. Good thing there's no precedent for this issue, and that history never repeats...

 

Drops mic.....

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Simple answer — I don’t have one. The Bills are no longer a suspect organization run by clowns. Beane and his staff spend an unbelievable amount of time preparing for this and he’s going to choose the players and make the moves he thinks are best for the team. He knows that better than I do so whomever he selects, I’m comfortable giving that selection every opportunity to be the player Beane thinks he can be. 
 

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11 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I don't have any doomsday scenarios. There are however some players that I would feel underwhelmed with at #30:

 

Kenneth Grant (unpopular opinion, I know)

Azareye’h Thomas

Tyleik Williams

Nick Emmanwori

JT Tuimoloau

 

But also I'm not going to make any snap judgments on any pick we make. The last time I had a snap negative judgment on a pick it was Josh Allen. I've learned my lesson.

 

 

Weirdly enough I feel the opposite. I find that the lead up to the draft is a lot more fun when I have no clue who we're going to take. There's at least a dozen different players that are realistic options for us and I've enjoyed evaluating them all and developing my preferences. 

 

I also think the draft luckily comes with lower expectations. 
 

When we needed every first rounder to save the franchise, the stakes were higher. Now we just need them to hit and be productive players to maybe win a Super Bowl. But even if they bust, we are gonna cruise to double digit wins and a home playoff game, so it’s not as do or die.

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