FireChans Posted Wednesday at 05:04 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:04 PM (edited) Seeing the TSW Mock Draft where we inexplicably tried to take 3 DTs with our first 3 picks (shout out @Virgil) has gotten me to ask this question. Now I'm not talking about silly things, like kicker in the first or anything truly insane that would never happen. But realistic scenarios that would get you to throw up your hands on draft night. Maybe it's trading back with a team (KC) and they take the player you covet? Or maybe it's taking one player over another (Nolen over Harmon)? Or maybe it's drafting a guy you hate? Go on record now, winner of the draft doomsday scenario wins absolutely nothing except for a continued everloving devotion to the Buffalo Bills. Edited Wednesday at 05:07 PM by FireChans Quote
T.E. Posted Wednesday at 05:08 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:08 PM I feel like it's almost impossible to get too worked up about the draft unless you're picking in the top 10. It's effectively a crapshoot. We'll get who we get. 5 8 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted Wednesday at 05:09 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:09 PM We technically traded the 62nd pick so it was two DTs and I’m not against the idea even of a DT double dip. The problem I had is we took two 1T. If your going to take Grant and you want to take another DT the answer was TJ Sanders, a 3 tech, not Alfred Collins. As for your question, I guess my doomsday scenario is Harmon, Hairston, Amos, Revel, Will Johnson and Barron are off the board and we can’t find a trade partner 2 2 Quote
mushypeaches Posted Wednesday at 05:10 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:10 PM Trading into the Top 10 to draft Sammy Watkins 2.0 1 1 1 1 Quote
Logic Posted Wednesday at 05:14 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:14 PM 1. Brandon Beane leaves a critical position undermanned, telegraphing to every other team in the league that we want to draft a player at that position with our first or second round pick and forcing our hand in doing so even if the true Best Player Available plays a different position. 2. Stop me if you've heard this one before: Having only Dane Jackson penciled in as one of your starting outside corners and thus being forced to draft a cornerback late in the first even though there are better players on the board. Two different ways of describing the same problem, I suppose. Good thing there's no precedent for this issue, and that history never repeats... 5 2 2 Quote
17islongenough Posted Wednesday at 05:15 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:15 PM Waiting until 1130 for them to pick and then they trade out of round 1 5 20 2 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Wednesday at 05:18 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:18 PM 8 minutes ago, T.E. said: I feel like it's almost impossible to get too worked up about the draft unless you're picking in the top 10. It's effectively a crapshoot. We'll get who we get. Yeah, the Bills being good has really ruined the draft (and all pre-draft activities) for me. No telling who will be there at 30, or what that talent pool looks like. I guess I'll take it But I do miss the days of diving into all the top-prospect data and locking in on a guy I covet. 2 Quote
FireChans Posted Wednesday at 05:18 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 05:18 PM 2 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Waiting until 1130 for them to pick and then they trade out of round 1 No joke, this was my answer. Last year SUCKED for that. 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted Wednesday at 05:19 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:19 PM the Bills drafting a skinny DT 3 Quote
dpberr Posted Wednesday at 05:21 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:21 PM Trading out of the 1st round for any reason. 1 Quote
transient Posted Wednesday at 05:25 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:25 PM 9 minutes ago, Logic said: 1. Brandon Beane leaves a critical position undermanned, telegraphing to every other team in the league that we want to draft a player at that position with our first or second round pick and forcing our hand in doing so even if the true Best Player Available plays a different position. 2. Stop me if you've heard this one before: Having only Dane Jackson penciled in as one of your starting outside corners and thus being forced to draft a cornerback late in the first even though there are better players on the board. Two different ways of describing the same problem, I suppose. Good thing there's no precedent for this issue, and that history never repeats... I was just going to say reaching for a position of need after a run on that position instead of selecting BPA, a la Kaiir Elam. 2 Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted Wednesday at 05:32 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:32 PM 13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, the Bills being good has really ruined the draft (and all pre-draft activities) for me. No telling who will be there at 30, or what that talent pool looks like. I guess I'll take it But I do miss the days of diving into all the top-prospect data and locking in on a guy I covet. and then losing out on that guy.... 1 Quote
cage Posted Wednesday at 05:32 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:32 PM Trade-up that gives up our 2nd round picks. I'd always rather trade-back a few slots. I like Tasker's idea to trade back and end up with four 2nd round pics. No trade-ups where we lose either both of the 2nds or both of the 4ths 2 Quote
SoTier Posted Wednesday at 05:38 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:38 PM 12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, the Bills being good has really ruined the draft (and all pre-draft activities) for me. No telling who will be there at 30, or what that talent pool looks like. I guess I'll take it But I do miss the days of diving into all the top-prospect data and locking in on a guy I covet. I don't miss those days at all. I want the Bills to draft #32 every year. 3 2 Quote
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:40 PM 17 minutes ago, Logic said: 1. Brandon Beane leaves a critical position undermanned, telegraphing to every other team in the league that we want to draft a player at that position with our first or second round pick and forcing our hand in doing so even if the true Best Player Available plays a different position. 2. Stop me if you've heard this one before: Having only Dane Jackson penciled in as one of your starting outside corners and thus being forced to draft a cornerback late in the first even though there are better players on the board. Two different ways of describing the same problem, I suppose. Good thing there's no precedent for this issue, and that history never repeats... Hopefully the lesson was learned there and a trade back + CB double dip would be the move Darien Porter (the Riq Woolen of this draft) in a trade back plus a higher floor CB on day 3 would be the way to go. Then use the addtional ammo from the trade back to move up in round 2 to hit the DLine twice. 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted Wednesday at 05:42 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:42 PM Positionally, I don't think I have one at any one position. 1st Rd Tackle if BPA fell that way might sting a little because I love DDawk, but I'd understand the BPA move with the thought of getting cheaper down the line and grooming a guy ahead of time + nice depth. Between being a mostly solid team and picking at #30, if you stand pat I can justify BPA (outside of QB obv) at any position. Obv 3 DT's 1,2,3 is nuts lol Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted Wednesday at 05:49 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:49 PM 29 minutes ago, Logic said: 1. Brandon Beane leaves a critical position undermanned, telegraphing to every other team in the league that we want to draft a player at that position with our first or second round pick and forcing our hand in doing so even if the true Best Player Available plays a different position. 2. Stop me if you've heard this one before: Having only Dane Jackson penciled in as one of your starting outside corners and thus being forced to draft a cornerback late in the first even though there are better players on the board. Two different ways of describing the same problem, I suppose. Good thing there's no precedent for this issue, and that history never repeats... I don't even disagree with your premise.... but being scared of Dane Jackson starting, to the point of passing over BPA and reaching on CB is just not happening if I'm GM. Dude is an average #2 who knows the defense and played it well enough. If you want to replace him that desperately youre better of trading up to go get the guy. Either let the board come to you when it does with any one of our 10 picks, make a draft weekend trade for a Vet, or go up and get the guy you covet in a range you're willing to pay. We have TEN picks 1 Quote
FireChans Posted Wednesday at 05:50 PM Author Posted Wednesday at 05:50 PM Just now, BillsShredder83 said: but being scared of Dane Jackson starting, to the point of passing over BPA and reaching on CB is just not happening if I'm GM We should’ve called you in 2022. Quote
BananaB Posted Wednesday at 05:52 PM Posted Wednesday at 05:52 PM With Beane drafting I have no high hopes so it’s hard to think of doomsday scenario. 2 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted Wednesday at 06:08 PM Posted Wednesday at 06:08 PM (edited) Without over complicating it, my disaster is drafting for need early. It’s the same in every draft. You have multiple needs. They should take BPA at DT, CB, Edge, WR or MAYBE even safety if you love someone. Drafting for need does not work. That’s how you end up with a roster of good players but very few elite players. You can still draft late and get impact players. Edited Wednesday at 06:08 PM by Kirby Jackson 1 1 Quote
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