Capco Posted Sunday at 06:03 PM Posted Sunday at 06:03 PM 27 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Just because you found a tweet of someone who is also wrong doesn't magically make you right.
Big Blitz Posted Sunday at 06:16 PM Posted Sunday at 06:16 PM (edited) ….Can you imagine if the Supreme Court had bypassed all lower courts, and enjoined an emergency COVID regulation twenty-four hours after a district court TRO was filed? Does everyone remember the South Bay "super precedent"? During the pandemic, there were actual imminent injuries by American citizens who sought to pray on holidays. But Chief Justice Roberts took his time, and ruled against people of faith for months at a time. It wasn't until Justice Barrett's confirmation that this tide turned. (I am convinced she regrets that early vote.) By contrast, the Court issues unprecedented orders to ensure that alleged gang members, who are in this country illegally, cannot be deported. I'm glad that the Chief has his priorities straight…. ….Justice Alito's sixth bullet references a hearing before Judge Boasberg on a Saturday. Although this Court did not hear directly from the Government regarding any planned deportations under the Alien Enemies Act in this matter, an attorney representing the Government in a different matter, J. G. G. v. Trump, No. 1:25–cv–766 (DC), informed the District Court in that case during a hearing yesterday evening that no such deportations were then planned to occur either yesterday, April18, or today, April 19. Judges in the Beltway apparently are always on call to hold emergency hearings whenever the ACLU asks for one. It is unclear why Judge Boasberg is doing anything with these cases. The Supreme Court found he lacks venue and the D.C. Circuit stayed his special prosecutor frolick. Still, even if Boasberg denied relief, he is still demanding concessions from government lawyers. The seventh bullet points out an obvious argument: the Court has never held that habeas can be used to certify a class, and the District Court never certified a class. The Supreme Court cannot exercise Rule 23 powers on the fly. Although the Court provided class-wide relief, the District Court never certified a class, and this Court has never held that class relief may be sought in a habeas proceeding. Justice Alito issues a challenge to his fellow members: I couldn't join this opinion, so why did you? In sum, literally in the middle of the night, the Court issued unprecedented and legally questionable relief without giving the lower courts a chance to rule, without hearing from the opposing party, within eight hours of receiving the application, with dubious factual support for its order, and without providing any explanation for its order. I refused to join the Court's order because we had no good reason to think that, under the circumstances, issuing an order at midnight was necessary or appropriate. The conclusion is a shot at J. Harvie Wilkinson: Both the Executive and the Judiciary have an obligation to follow the law. The Executive must proceed under the terms of our order in Trump v. J. G. G., 604 U. S. ___ (2025) (per curiam), and this Court should follow established procedures. Amen. The obligation cannot only be on Trump; the Court must obey the law as well. The more Chief Justice Roberts issues decisions like this, the more his precious "legitimacy" withers….. Edited Sunday at 06:16 PM by Big Blitz
Big Blitz Posted Sunday at 07:22 PM Posted Sunday at 07:22 PM I’m beginning to doubt these people were ever deported. Deep state lies. 2
Pokebball Posted Sunday at 07:43 PM Posted Sunday at 07:43 PM (edited) 22 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I’m beginning to doubt these people were ever deported. Deep state lies. Do I have these numbers correct? There have been 30 judicial blockades for 100,000 deportations under Trump and zero for 20 million deportations under Clinton, Bush and Obama? And Trump's follows a Biden administration that allowed 10, 20 or 30 million cross the border. What has changed? Edited Sunday at 07:44 PM by Pokebball 1
Big Turk Posted yesterday at 12:13 AM Posted yesterday at 12:13 AM (edited) 13 hours ago, Westside said: Didn’t your side want to send anyone who didn’t agree with the leftists to a reeducation camp not too long ago? Talk about a communist regime!!!!! I don't have a side. I'm not dumb enough to believe this is about any side other than rich or poor. You are the person watching the magic show thinking what you see is real. I'm the person watching that knows it's all misdirection designed to get you to pay attention to something else so they can do whatever they want while you aren't looking at them. Education matters. There is a reason why Trump targeted the people he targeted and it wasn't for their intelligence, I can assure you of that. Edited yesterday at 04:05 AM by Big Turk 1 1
mjt328 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago On 4/18/2025 at 2:09 PM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Then why can't Trump? A 9-0 Supreme Court ruling shows where the law stands, but Trump ignores that and sends a person to a prison where the dictator of that nation brags no one comes out alive. Quick question. What date was Garcia put on the plane and sent to El Salvador? (Hint... the answer is March 15) What date did the Supreme Court rule on "facilitating" his return? (Hint... the answer is April 10) So no. Trump did not ignore the Supreme Court and deport him. He was already gone for almost a month before they issued that ruling. FYI - The court also clarified what they meant by "facilitate"... writing that it involved “taking all available steps to remove any domestic obstacles that would otherwise impede the alien’s ability to return here." So basically, if El Salvador sends Garcia back on a plane, the Trump administration can't create any obstacles to stop it. El Salvador said they aren't releasing him. Case closed.
daz28 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago On 4/16/2025 at 5:57 PM, njbuff said: First off, he entered this country ILLEGALLY, which means he doesn’t deserve any rights whatsoever. If I entered Japan illegally, so I deserve Japanese rights? NOOOOOO Common mother trucking sense. So if you entered Japan illegally, how did you end up in a US prison? Is it a crime under US law to enter Japan illegally? You make no trucking sense at all.
aristocrat Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, daz28 said: So if you entered Japan illegally, how did you end up in a US prison? Is it a crime under US law to enter Japan illegally? You make no trucking sense at all. Because he was a ms 13 member and those guys are all in prison down there.
daz28 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 17 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Because he was a ms 13 member and those guys are all in prison down there. You sure about that??? The only corroboration I've seen is that a 'confidential source' said so, and that some cops in a parking lot said they "looked like it". That's it. I'm not defending the guy, but rather defending the facts of the matter. You'd have to assume that being here since 2011, they could provide some.....ANY evidence of it. Even a shred. His lawyer is claiming that the 'source' claimed he was part of a NYC chapter. He's never lived in NYC. He was never accused by El Salvador of a crime OR being MS-13 afaik, so why is he in prison there???? How did he commit crimes there, if he's been here since 2011???? Again, all I'm looking for is the FACTS. Also, he's not even an alleged wife beater. No current charges and no convictions ever. This is the victim's own statement on the matter: "After surviving domestic violence in a previous relationship, I acted out of caution following a disagreement with Kilmar by seeking a civil protective order, in case things escalated," she said. "Things did not escalate, and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process. We were able to work through the situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling." I presented what I perceive to be the facts, so go ahead and call me an unamerican, libera,l commie, ms13, spouse abuse enabler if you want, because I know some people are going to. All that aside, the courts feel that he did not receive proper due process for being deported under a wartime act(were not at war), where a street gang is labeled 'terrorist'. This guy has clearly never TERRORIZED anyone as far as any human has ever documented. Not even mentioning that he was sent to a prison(for no crime) in a country, which he HAD earned protection from. Oh yeah, the USA literally paid a dictator to put him in that prison. Edited 6 hours ago by daz28
aristocrat Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 14 minutes ago, daz28 said: You sure about that??? The only corroboration I've seen is that a 'confidential source' said so, and that some cops in a parking lot said they "looked like it". That's it. I'm not defending the guy, but rather defending the facts of the matter. You'd have to assume that being here since 2011, they could provide some.....ANY evidence of it. Even a shred. His lawyer is claiming that the 'source' claimed he was part of a NYC chapter. He's never lived in NYC. He was never accused by El Salvador of a crime OR being MS-13 afaik, so why is he in prison there???? How did he commit crimes there, if he's been here since 2011???? Again, all I'm looking for is the FACTS. Also, he's not even an alleged wife beater. No current charges and no convictions ever. This is the victim's own statement on the matter: "After surviving domestic violence in a previous relationship, I acted out of caution following a disagreement with Kilmar by seeking a civil protective order, in case things escalated," she said. "Things did not escalate, and I decided not to follow through with the civil court process. We were able to work through the situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling." I presented what I perceive to be the facts, so go ahead and call me an unamerican, libera,l commie, ms13, spouse abuse enabler if you want, because I know some people are going to. All that aside, the courts feel that he did not receive proper due process for being deported under a wartime act(were not at war), where a street gang is labeled 'terrorist'. This guy has clearly never TERRORIZED anyone as far as any human has ever documented. Not even mentioning that he was sent to a prison(for no crime) in a country, which he HAD earned protection from. Oh yeah, the USA literally paid a dictator to put him in that prison. Tattoos tell a different story. They are imprisoning all gang members down there. No questions really. He didn’t want to go back and got asylum cause he’s worried he’d be killed by rival gangs. Guy had a past. He’s their citizen. They are trying to eliminate the gangs and doing a pretty good job of it
daz28 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Tattoos tell a different story. They are imprisoning all gang members down there. No questions really. He didn’t want to go back and got asylum cause he’s worried he’d be killed by rival gangs. Guy had a past. He’s their citizen. They are trying to eliminate the gangs and doing a pretty good job of it Are you referring to his personal tattoos, or are you referring to the dictator's draconian tattoo laws? He was 16 when he left. He left because gangs threatened his family. His family ran a business in El Salvador. That is "his past". The only thing that makes sense is that he's their citizen, BUT he was not legally allowed to be deported there anyways. It's great that they're eliminating gangs, but they're not doing it through any system I'd like to live in. You can't sacrifice your freedom for safety. That's not how it works, especially in the USA. We have a long history of defending that, and we need to be vigilant, because the Patriot Act IS EXACTLY what everyone said Covid restrictions were going to end up being.
Buffarukus Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 12 minutes ago, daz28 said: Are you referring to his personal tattoos, or are you referring to the dictator's draconian tattoo laws? He was 16 when he left. He left because gangs threatened his family. His family ran a business in El Salvador. That is "his past". The only thing that makes sense is that he's their citizen, BUT he was not legally allowed to be deported there anyways. It's great that they're eliminating gangs, but they're not doing it through any system I'd like to live in. You can't sacrifice your freedom for safety. That's not how it works, especially in the USA. We have a long history of defending that, and we need to be vigilant, because the Patriot Act IS EXACTLY what everyone said Covid restrictions were going to end up being. Did he not get numerous cases of due process while he was here? All of which determined the facts that are now being disputed by the left that he was at the least a MS13 gang affiliate. a person that required his wife to get a restraining order? So now he requires more process on top of what he has been given when the order is given? Serious question. If i enter japan illegally then get caught dealing with a american mafia ring and also beat my wife to the point of needing a order of protection from japans system should i be deported? Seems like alot of resources were used already. If they return me to america and i am imprisoned why is that a issue for japan to determine how my country of origin desides to deal with me. If anyone feels he should be freed from the prison then by all means fight to petition the gov he is under control of...not ours. I see the issue but unfortunately a comatosed fool decided to ignore laws to flood our country. Suddenly everyone on one side has found a duty to abide by them and are extremely diligent and orderly ONLY when it comes to a clean up effort on the mess they cheered for. Its a bit ironic to say the least.
daz28 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 44 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: Did he not get numerous cases of due process while he was here? All of which determined the facts that are now being disputed by the left that he was at the least a MS13 gang affiliate. a person that required his wife to get a restraining order? So now he requires more process on top of what he has been given when the order is given? Serious question. If i enter japan illegally then get caught dealing with a american mafia ring and also beat my wife to the point of needing a order of protection from japans system should i be deported? Seems like alot of resources were used already. If they return me to america and i am imprisoned why is that a issue for japan to determine how my country of origin desides to deal with me. If anyone feels he should be freed from the prison then by all means fight to petition the gov he is under control of...not ours. I see the issue but unfortunately a comatosed fool decided to ignore laws to flood our country. Suddenly everyone on one side has found a duty to abide by them and are extremely diligent and orderly ONLY when it comes to a clean up effort on the mess they cheered for. Its a bit ironic to say the least. Did you read any of the previous discussion by me on this? I'm not going to rehash every point for you, that I've already covered. Do you know why 'the right' deemed him MS-13? I'd like to know what you have heard as evidence. I've already stated what I have heard was the evidence against him, and it seemed weak at best. Maybe you know something I don't. I love being informed, so please do share. His wife made a statement about the restraining order. He never broke it, and was never convicted of that, nor any other crimes. There's an estimated 2-3 million RO granted every year(DOJ). As for your example LOL, I'll try to respond, by using his instance in place of the fictitious one you used: You never got "caught" with an American Mafia ring: one 'confidential' source claimed you were mafia. Your lawyer points out that the source claimed you were in a NYC gang, but you never even lived there. You beat your wife to the point of needing a restraining order: That's not what your wife claims happed AT ALL, and made a statement to the contrary actually(look back to find) You were returned to America and imprisoned: You never committed a crime in America, and haven't lived there since 2011, and were 16 years old when you left. You fled America, because a gang was harassing your family business, and threatening to rape your sister, and kill family members. The Japan determined you shouldn't be deported to America, but did anyways, paying the American dictator millions of dollars to put you into the worst prison on the planet(again for no crimes). Why should Japan care about their mistake; Because it was illegal, and them shrugging their shoulders in defiance pisses you right the F off. You're in a prison, that you weren't supposed to be sent to, paid for by the country that wasn't supposed to, for committing precisely zero crimes in it. So in reality, all you did was come into a country 13 years ago, get married, have 3 kids, and work. One that gave you work papers, and an ok from DHS to be here, caused no other harm other than that original line crossing(which is actually a civil matter). Then the country puts you through all worlds of hell, including their lying press pushing a narrative against you. So, now do you think anyone should care for your plight? Oh, one more thing I overlooked. The country that sent you to the prison in the country they weren't supposed to send you to, sent you there on a wartime act. That country is not at war. They went even further by claiming you are in a "terrorist organization" street gang, and that's why. That designation was created with the stroke of a pen, by a known racist dictator. You most certainly have never committed a terrorist act, and even their loony right-wing media hasn't even accused you of it, but because they affiliated you with people that supposedly have. It's the nazi equivalent of your crime being you're a Jew. Other Jewish people have supposedly done things, and now YOU are gonna pay for them. You want to deport someone, because they're a terrorist, PROVE their a terrorist, because people with bad intentions just might label YOUR group as terrorists, simply because they don't like you. Edited 4 hours ago by daz28 1
Tommy Callahan Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 40 minutes ago, Buffarukus said: Did he not get numerous cases of due process while he was here? All of which determined the facts that are now being disputed by the left that he was at the least a MS13 gang affiliate. a person that required his wife to get a restraining order? So now he requires more process on top of what he has been given when the order is given? Serious question. If i enter japan illegally then get caught dealing with a american mafia ring and also beat my wife to the point of needing a order of protection from japans system should i be deported? Seems like alot of resources were used already. If they return me to america and i am imprisoned why is that a issue for japan to determine how my country of origin desides to deal with me. If anyone feels he should be freed from the prison then by all means fight to petition the gov he is under control of...not ours. I see the issue but unfortunately a comatosed fool decided to ignore laws to flood our country. Suddenly everyone on one side has found a duty to abide by them and are extremely diligent and orderly ONLY when it comes to a clean up effort on the mess they cheered for. Its a bit ironic to say the least. Eff. Try to go to Canada with a DWI or overstay a temp visa. It's quasi military till they dump you back here. See Haitian refugees for reference. They put them in a prison in the woods. Edited 5 hours ago by Tommy Callahan
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