Miami Herald: Dolphins players have turned on McDaniel

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, MattM said:

Oh, he did work hard—but he did not have the talent to be recruited or to play in games and the coaching staff let him walk on because the Ivies aren’t the cut throat world of the major conferences you were mentioning in the same breadth with them as if they are comparable. You also initially (and incorrectly) talked about Ivy kids getting scholarships which they don’t.

 

i can ask my nephew next time I see him. He coaches at Princeton.

I never said Mike McDaniel had talent to be playing or starting 

 

I said Walk-Ons have to bust their asses and work very very hard 

 

I said Mike McDaniel had to have been super tough and a very hard worker to be a four-year walk on at a division 1 School

 

And I thought ivy League schools gave out academic scholarships not athletic scholarships..  regardless they still recruit 

 

https://news.springisd.org/2024/02/spring-isd-learning-fair-ignites-collaboration-growth-for-200-educators/

 

Dr. Hinojosa also took the opportunity to spotlight some outstanding student achievements, including Winship Elementary fourth-grader Abigail John, a published author, and Dekaney High School senior Christian Nwosu, who earned a scholarship to Harvard University. 

 

Last sentence that I copied talks about Christian nwosu a three-star defensive end who says earned a scholarship to Harvard.. he's on their football team but they obviously gave him something

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Buffalo716

[MrEpsYtown]

Not surprised. He's a dork. He tries too hard. If he were just himself I think he would have better command of things. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Next coach of the Fish:

 

[Einstein]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

.. I know how hard it is to walk on at a division one football school it's hard

 

I’m sure he did work hard. I’m sure he ran as fast as he could, and lifted a lot of weights, and participated to the best of his ability. I mean, his stupid head coach says that he wasn’t very good and his d coordinator said they didn’t want him and all the players say he was a players-coach, but… they’re stupid anyway, right? We of course know that your opinion matters more!

[strive_for_five_guy]

When your success depends on guys like Tua and Tyreke, you’re in trouble.

[Buffalo716]

12 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I’m sure he did work hard. I’m sure he ran as fast as he could, and lifted a lot of weights, and participated to the best of his ability. I mean, his stupid head coach says that he wasn’t very good and his d coordinator said they didn’t want him and all the players say he was a players-coach, but… they’re stupid anyway, right? We of course know that your opinion matters more!

So his stupid head coach brought him up to varsity?

 

The guy who said he was trash brought him up to varsity? That's interesting.. and I never said he was a great football player

 

He had to have been showing more than the other JV players to get called up to varsity at a point.. who would bring up a kid to varsity if he was crying every practice and a liability of getting hurt

 

I never said he was great I said he had to have worked really hard and showed something to stick around as a walk on for 4 years and make the varsity.. most Walk-Ons last one season

 

He played 4.. he had to have worked hard and had some skill and toughness to get moved up... That is the only thing that I have said is that it's really hard he had to have worked hard and shown something

 

 

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[Einstein]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

So his stupid head coach brought him up to varsity?

 

The guy who said he was trash brought him up to varsity? That's interesting.. and I never said he was a great football player

 

He had to have been showing more than the other Walk-Ons to get called up to varsity at a point.. who would bring up a kid to varsity if he was crying every practice and a liability of getting hurt

 

I never said he was great I said he had to have worked really hard and showed something to stick around as a walk on for 4 years and make the varsity.. most Walk-Ons last one season

 

He played 4.. he had to have worked hard and had some skill compared to other Walk-Ons

 

I do agree with you that he probably worked very hard

[MattM]

19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I never said Mike McDaniel had talent to be playing or starting 

 

I said Walk-Ons have to bust their asses and work very very hard 

 

I said Mike McDaniel had to have been super tough and a very hard worker to be a four-year walk on at a division 1 School

 

And I thought ivy League schools gave out academic scholarships not athletic scholarships..  regardless they still recruit 

 

https://news.springisd.org/2024/02/spring-isd-learning-fair-ignites-collaboration-growth-for-200-educators/

 

Dr. Hinojosa also took the opportunity to spotlight some outstanding student achievements, including Winship Elementary fourth-grader Abigail John, a published author, and Dekaney High School senior Christian Nwosu, who earned a scholarship to Harvard University. 

 

Last sentence that I copied talks about Christian nwosu a three-star defensive end who says earned a scholarship to Harvard.. he's on their football team but they obviously gave him something

 

If I recall correctly you were originally using McDaniel’s record as an Ivy walk-on to imply that he would be respected by NFL players as being similar to them in a way they’d respect from an athletic perspective.

 

But the level of athletic talent in the Ivy League generally (much less at the literal bottom of the roster) is a whole lot lower than the NFL much less major college ball/conferences that they almost literally all come from, so I’m not sure about your supposition. 
 

They may respect his hard work as a coach, but I highly doubt they give much thought to his record as a player.

 

And the Ivies have a policy that anyone who gets in gets the money to go. That’s how I attended—my parents made about $25k/yr in today’s dollars….

Edited 13 hours ago by MattM

[julian]

No no no no… he’s doing a great job, please baby Jesus allow this offensive genius another 10 years of employment in south beach. 

[Buffalo716]

7 minutes ago, MattM said:

If I recall correctly you were originally using McDaniel’s record as an Ivy walk-on to imply that he would be respected by NFL players as being similar to them in a way they’d respect from an athletic perspective.

 

But the level of athletic talent in the Ivy League generally (much less at the literal bottom of the roster) is a whole lot lower than the NFL much less major college ball/conferences that they almost literally all come from, so I’m not sure about your supposition. 
 

They may respect his hard work as a coach, but I highly doubt they give much thought to his record as a player…..

I was not trying to use McDaniels record as a walk on to say NFL football players would view him as a peer 

 

Somebody called him a nerd lol.. and all I said was he was a division one football player.. which usually means you're tough

 

That was it 

 

And it is technically the truth.. and then I went on to the spiel about how hard Walk-Ons have to work and how hard they have it... And that a walk on who makes it 4 years has to have a lot of grit and toughness 

 

I've never once tried to say McDaniel could be an NFL wide receiver, he didn't have the talent to play in the Mac lol.. I know he doesn't have that talent 

 

What I was trying to point out was how much toughness you need get through 4 years as a walk on.. which I don't think a dweeby nerd would have that toughness lol

Edited 13 hours ago by Buffalo716

[WotAGuy]

10 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I was not trying to use McDaniels record as a walk on to say NFL football players would view him as a peer 

 

Somebody called him a nerd lol.. and all I said was he was a division one football player.. which usually means you're tough

 

That was it 

 

And it is technically the truth.. and then I went on to the spiel about how hard Walk-Ons have to work and how hard they have it... And that a walk on who makes it 4 years has to have a lot of grit and toughness 

 

I've never once tried to say McDaniel could be an NFL wide receiver, he didn't have the talent to play in the Mac lol.. I know he doesn't have that talent 

 

What I was trying to point out was how much toughness you need get through 4 years as a walk on.. which I don't think a dweeby nerd would have that toughness lol

It seems there is more visible evidence of his being a dweeby nerd than particularly tough. Although…..I’m not sure I’m tough enough to wear capris, so there’s that too. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

2 hours ago, Logic said:

I've said it numerous times on this forum:

I believe that Mike McDaniel is a sharp offensive mind and probably can have a long career in this league as an offensive coordinator.

I do not believe he is a leader of men or is head coach material.

His schtick was fun and funny when the Dolphins were winning, but as things have slowly and consistently gone south, his charm has begun to wear off with players and fans, and I don't think he's long for the job. I think he's the offensive whiz kid version of Rex Ryan.

In my own mind, I operate on the assumption that Mike McDaniel will not be the head coach of the Miami Dolphins beyond 2025 or, at the latest, 2026. 

 

I thought you said you felt he was a good offensive coach??    Maybe the 15 years ago version of Rex.

 

The league is full of guys like this great coordinators, but didn't succeed as HC.  Robert Salah is a name that comes to the top of my list to compare too.  Kinsberry is another.

[DrDawkinstein]

Grier and McDaniel are dead men walking.

 

I wouldnt be surprised if owner Stephen Ross was behind this opinion piece at some level. He wants to fire Grier, but also wants to replace both the HC and GM at the same time, so Grier has been given one more (lame duck) year, and they're already laying the groundwork to move on from McDaniel.

 

You love to see it.

 

 

[Buffalo716]

9 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

It seems there is more visible evidence of his being a dweeby nerd than particularly tough. Although…..I’m not sure I’m tough enough to wear capris, so there’s that too. 

So maybe he does dress a little geeky 😂

 

Sean McDermott versus Mike McDaniel.. 12 rounds in the boxing ring 

 

How long does it last

[uticaclub]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

Dude you have no idea how hard it is to walk on to a division one program 

 

If you walk on to a division one program through the walk on trial you are a division one football player 

 

You did not walk on to a division one team and make it

 

You literally have to be one of the first people in last people out coaches treat you like crap and still expect you to give 120% every single day

 

Walk-on leave practice bloody because how much physical abuse they take in a practice

It was Yale; I doubt it's like that in the Ivy League

[Buffalo716]

28 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

I do agree with you that he probably worked very hard

Obviously Sean McDermott was a much much much better football player than Mike McDaniel lol

 

But you know how many people will say McDermott sucked because he didnt play 1A lol 

 

Some People think UB is bad football

[PonyBoy]

44 minutes ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said:

Next coach of the Fish:

 

 

Isn't this their current coach? 😏

[gjv]

Perhaps it's the Herald that has turned on McDaniel and Grier rather than the players.

[Royale with Cheese]

McDaniels would kick most guys asses on here.

[Buffalo716]

38 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

It was Yale; I doubt it's like that in the Ivy League

It's still D1 football 

 

Division 2 has a tough walk on process.. I don't care if it's ivy league it's still not easy 

 

Harvard typically does get a good amount of kids trying to walk on... I don't know about the  rest of the ivy league but it's all division one football 

 

 

 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by Buffalo716