Miami Herald: Dolphins players have turned on McDaniel

[Buffalo716]

9 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Because I read up on it.

 

To quote his head coach: “He was small and he couldn’t run fast. I thought ‘he’s not going to be around here really long”. They then go into how he was used as a coach and not a player. 

 

Not sure why you’re so determined to spin history into something it wasn’t. His head coach, players on the team, etc all said he was a coach. Not a player. He did not “make the team as a walk-on” in the sense that they accepted him because he was a gifted dude who worked hard. They accepted him to coach other players!

 

 

Actually the head coach said 7-10 guys showed up for walk-on.

 

 

Actually they did.

 

The defensive coordinator said in an article that they didn’t really want him but he “just wouldn’t go away” so they finally let him on the team to help them prepare.

 

You can keep trying to spin this if you want but you’re just flat out wrong.

 

 

Dude he literally made the varsity program 

 

He had to have been doing something in practice to at least reach walk on at the varsity program 

 

You're just a hater.. if he spent four years on the JV team sure 

 

He literally made the varsity program.. which they don't do just for s**** and giggles 

 

"All told, McDaniel spent four years as a wide receiver at Yale -- two on the JV team before being elevated to varsity his junior year. His name may not show up in the Yale stat book, but McDaniel established himself as a leader, a player-coach, a film room guru and, pound-for-pound, one of the strongest players on the team. He attended the school and continued his football dream as a player, but quickly realized he was a long shot to ever see the field."

 

You need to be practicing good to make your way up to even a walk on on the varsity squad 

 

You cannot spin that into he was coaching on the sidelines for 4 years.. you do not make a varsity team is a walk on so you can twiddle your thumbs on the sidelines.. he had to have been practicing hard

 

He had to have been pound for pound super tough and good enough to practice with the varsity team

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[Warriorspikes51]

Seems like he should get a 10 year contract to lock in the young hipster Mikey Ice

[Coach Tuesday]

12 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

I love to pile on the Fins as much as anyone, but that story is hot-take clickbait. The only facts presented are Ramsay's trade request, a few FA departures, and Tua's radio silence. But players leave in FA from every team including the Chiefs and Eagles and players have no media obligation between the end of the season and mini camp. The only thing out of the ordinary is Jalen Ramsay's trade demands, and that speaks more to Ramsay's team-hopping tendencies than anything about the Dolphins. Perhaps Mike McDaniel has lost that locker room, but Omar Kelly presents no information that could confirm or deny that. 

100%.  Typical Omar Kelly fluff piece - perfectly empty content for a perfectly empty town and fan base.

[B-Man]

 

 

Miami Herald: Dolphins players have turned on McDaniel

 

 

Isn't this usually a training camp/season kind of thing ?

 

Who turns against their head coach in the off season  

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

Bad franchises have bad ownership that populate their GM and head coaching positions poorly.  The Dolphin's problems won't go away with just a new coach and GM.  The owner keeps interjecting himself into key football decisions when he should leave them to knowledgeable football people.  The most glaring example of this was the Tua vs Herbert draft decision.  Living in Florida, I have a great time talking trash to neighbors who are Miami fans.  I hope Ross keeps right on screwing up his franchise.  It makes my annual excursion to Miami to see the Bills very enjoyable.

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

you’re right, the head coach and defensive coordinator of the team who accepted him as a walk-on have no idea what they’re talking about. 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

the level some people will go to not admit they’re wrong is truly impressive 

Send me the quote where his head coach said he did not practice with the team and he was bad at football , and they only let him on because they felt bad for him

 

I fully understand he wasn't good enough to play in a real game at Yale.. BUT there's plenty of players who are not playing lol of course Walk-Ons aren't getting burn.. how many of the other Walk-Ons got playing time?

 

Dude you think you can just go to Yale and they'll accept you on the varsity program because you're annoying And won't leave? 

 

I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn

 

You are the one grasping at straws because he clearly had to practice good enough to make the varsity team.. they could have left hin on the JV for 4 years 

 

Nobody is saying he was a superstar at Yale.. he was good enough to make the team as a walk on and eventually make the varsity roster as a walk on 

 

No division 1 program is letting you on their varsity program because you're annoying.. he had to have a lot of grit toughness and determination

 

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[oldmanfan]

One of the hardest things in sports is how to identify a head coach (football, basketball, hockey) or manager (baseball, soccer).  In football, most times a coordinator is raised up to HC, assuming success as a coordinator transfers to success as HC.  That seems to work maybe, at best, around a third of a time.  But the only way you find out is to give a guy a shot.

 

McDaniel seems to be a classic example of a guy that was a good coordinator but tops out there.  Peter principal hits again.

[MattM]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Dude he literally made the varsity program 

 

He had to have been doing something in practice to at least reach walk on at the varsity program 

 

You're just a hater.. if he spent four years on the JV team sure 

 

He literally made the varsity program

The part you’re forgetting is that it was Yale.

 

No one was on scholarship. They are there by and large to get a degree and go into business, tech, law, academia (a few), etc. The more athletically-minded might consider coaching.

 

While it’s improved drastically in the last 20-30 years, it’s still a huge long shot for an Ivy kid to be considering the pros.

 

I went to Columbia in the 1980’s—my class broke the losing streak and did not win a single game in 4 years. I didn’t play football, but it’s a small school and literally 10% of the boys there in my freshman class were football players, so I know a lot of them and have a lot of respect for them as student athletes.

 

That said, I had a buddy who walked on. I don’t think he started at Pittsford Sutherland his freshman year there (he later transferred to Staples in CT), but walked on at Columbia. Practiced every week, but rarely did played. I think MM may have been similar from what I’ve read.

 

Things worked out fine for my buddy. Became COO of the energy trading business of another player (who’s currently a minority owner of the Texans) and retired in his mid-40’s with trips to Ibiza twice a year…..

[Beast]

No matter, it’s going to be fun kicking the Fish around the field this season. 

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, MattM said:

The part you’re forgetting is that it was Yale.

 

No one was on scholarship. They are there by and large to get a degree and go into business, tech, law, academia (a few), etc. The more athletically-minded might consider coaching.

 

While it’s improved drastically in the last 20-30 years, it’s still a huge long shot for an Ivy kid to be considering the pros.

 

I went to Columbia in the 1980’s—my class broke the losing streak and did not win a single game in 4 years. I didn’t play football, but it’s a small school and literally 10% of the boys there in my freshman class were football players, so I know a lot of them and have a lot of respect for them as student athletes.

 

That said, I had a buddy who walked on. I don’t think he started at Pittsford Sutherland his freshman year there (he later transferred to Staples in CT), but walked on at Columbia. Practiced every week, but rarely did played. I think MM may have been similar from what I’ve read.

 

Things worked out fine for my buddy. Became COO of the energy trading business of another player (who’s currently a minority owner of the Texans) and retired in his mid-40’s with trips to Ibiza twice a year…..

A lot of the players are there on academic scholarship to offset 

 

And 95% of the football team is also not walking on at Yale.. they are getting recruited out of high school

[Augie]

 

I’m pretty sure wishing it was colder was his downfall. 

[MattM]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

A lot of the players are there on academic scholarship to offset 

 

And 95% of the football team is also not walking on at Yale.. they are getting recruited out of high school

Did you miss the part of me knowing someone who didn’t start in HS being an Ivy League walk on?

[Einstein]

9 minutes ago, MattM said:

The part you’re forgetting is that it was Yale.

 

No one was on scholarship. They are there by and large to get a degree and go into business, tech, law, academia (a few), etc. The more athletically-minded might consider coaching.

 

While it’s improved drastically in the last 20-30 years, it’s still a huge long shot for an Ivy kid to be considering the pros.

 

I went to Columbia in the 1980’s—my class broke the losing streak and did not win a single game in 4 years. I didn’t play football, but it’s a small school and literally 10% of the boys there in my freshman class were football players, so I know a lot of them and have a lot of respect for them as student athletes.

 

That said, I had a buddy who walked on. I don’t think he started at Pittsford Sutherland his freshman year there (he later transferred to Staples in CT), but walked on at Columbia. Practiced every week, but rarely did played. I think MM may have been similar from what I’ve read.

 

Things worked out fine for my buddy. Became COO of the energy trading business of another player (who’s currently a minority owner of the Texans) and retired in his mid-40’s with trips to Ibiza twice a year…..

 

You’re right, but honestly…. dont bother. He’s not listening. 

 

The D coordinator of the team said they didn’t want him but he wouldn’t go away and B716 still thinks the guy made it because he is just a good player 😂. Not worth it.

 

PS, to add to your point… Most D1 programs have hundreds of walk-ons trying to make it. Yale has… checks notes.. 7 (according to the head coach).

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Einstein

[Gregg]

13 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Miami Herald: Dolphins players have turned on McDaniel

 

 

Isn't this usually a training camp/season kind of thing ?

 

Who turns against their head coach in the off season  

 

Aaron Rodgers maybe? He is an offseason drama queen.

[shane nelson]

McDaniel has doubled his gummy order.

[Buffalo716]

Just now, MattM said:

Did you miss the part of me knowing someone who didn’t start in HS being an Ivy League walk on?

 I understand how it works 

 

I know people who have walked on at every conference in the last 30 years from the ACC to the Big 12 

 

And I know how hard Walk-Ons have to work

[MattM]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

 I understand how it works 

 

I know people who have walked on at every conference in the last 30 years from the ACC to the Big 12 

 

And I know how hard Walk-Ons have to work

Apparently not in the Ivy League…..

[Buffalo716]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

You’re right, but honestly…. dont bother.

 

The D coordinator of the team said they didn’t want him but he wouldn’t go away and B716 still thinks the guy made it because he is just a good player 😂. Not worth it.

You're funny

 

I literally never said he was a great football player.. I know how hard it is to walk on at a division one football school it's hard

 

He had to work hard you think he twiddle this thumbs

3 minutes ago, MattM said:

Apparently not in the Ivy League…..

So you're saying your friend didn't go to practice or work hard? They just let him on the team to twiddle his thumbs?

 

Try to walk on at Harvard today and see what happens

 

Walk-Ons have to work extremely hard that's my point

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[wppete]

What a dump. They got rid of Flores who was a good coach now they are going to try and get rid of McDaniels who is also a good coach. 

[MattM]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

You're funny

 

I literally never said he was a great football player.. I know how hard it is to walk on at a division one football school it's hard

 

He had to work hard you think he twiddle this thumbs

So you're saying your friend didn't go to practice or work hard? They just let him on the team to twiddle his thumbs

Oh, he did work hard—but he did not have the talent to be recruited or to play in games and the coaching staff let him walk on because the Ivies aren’t the cut throat world of the major conferences you were mentioning in the same breadth with them as if they are comparable. You also initially (and incorrectly) talked about Ivy kids getting scholarships which they don’t.

 

i can ask my nephew next time I see him. He coaches at Princeton.