TSW 2.0 Poll - Who should the Bills select at #62

[Virgil]

Poll narrowed down to the top 10.  If your player was eliminated, please vote again

[Alphadawg7]

8 hours ago, MJS said:

If the Bills don't pick a corner with one of their top 3 picks, that's a mistake, in my opinion.

Riley would be a good pick here, don’t understand how he isn’t getting more traction with the glaring hole we have at corner.  

[MJS]

2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Riley would be a good pick here, don’t understand how he isn’t getting more traction with the glaring hole we have at corner.  

That's who I voted for.

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Why do we keep voting so much for Tre Harris?  He doesn’t even seem like a legit option for us let alone who we would select.  He ran the same 40 time as Coleman did at his pro day and one of his knocks in his lack of explosion off the line.  The team needs a vertical threat, a take the top off the D player.  
 

Not saying he isn’t a good prospect for someone, but he doesn’t fit what we expect the Bills to be after at WR for our team needs.  

 

He is a better outside receiver than Coleman. He is just better at varying his play speed and the tempo of his routes and he understands leverage and uses it against coverage, rather than playing to the coverage the way Keon does. He is also better at the top of the route. I don't think he has Keon's level of ability after the catch but I think he will win outside more often. I'm not pounding the table for Harris, and I didn't vote for him, but I wouldn't hate him here based on the value compared to what else is on the board. I agree that he doesn't bring the speed element the Bills are lacking. Likewise I am not pounding the table for Royals either but I'd be fine with him as well based on value. What I hate the idea of doing here is reaching for someone based on perceived need. Harris is legit a top five BPA at this stage of the draft. 

Edited 19 hours ago by GunnerBill

[GunnerBill]

34 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Riley would be a good pick here, don’t understand how he isn’t getting more traction with the glaring hole we have at corner.  

 

He'd be a reach here and a considerable one IMO. I have a 4th round grade on him. 

[KOKBILLS]

I know some may think it's a little early... But CB Jacob Parrish should definitely be in the mix here IMHO... 

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

I know some may think it's a little early... But CB Jacob Parrish should definitely be in the mix here IMHO... 

 

It is too early IMO. I also think he is a nickel at the next level. I like him. Like him a lot. Don't like the idea of him in round 2 and make him your starting outside corner. 

[Alphadawg7]

56 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He'd be a reach here and a considerable one IMO. I have a 4th round grade on him. 

 

I like him more than you do and have him more as a 3rd rounder, but given we don't have a 3rd and its nearly the 3rd now, this doesn't feel like much of a reach for me based on my opinion of him.  I can see why you would see it as a reach if you like him less, just saying my personal opinion on him has him a bit higher than you.

 

We also don't pick again until the 4th, so I think how Beane has the remaining corners graded and the expected positional drop off from this point on to then is going to be part of consideration on what he would do now.  And this is also where a trade back could come into play as well if he felt we could get value moving back and still landing one he is targeting on the trade back.  

Edited 18 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He is a better outside receiver than Coleman. He is just better at varying his play speed and the tempo of his routes and he understands leverage and uses it against coverage, rather than playing to the coverage the way Keon does. He is also better at the top of the route. I don't think he has Keon's level of ability after the catch but I think he will win outside more often. I'm not pounding the table for Harris, and I didn't vote for him, but I wouldn't hate him here based on the value compared to what else is on the board. I agree that he doesn't bring the speed element the Bills are lacking. Likewise I am not pounding the table for Royals either but I'd be fine with him as well based on value. What I hate the idea of doing here is reaching for someone based on perceived need. Harris is legit a top five BPA at this stage of the draft. 

 

I get he is a good prospect, and said as much, not refuting that.  Its not that his going in this range of the draft isn't warranted, its more that he doesn't fit what the Bills lack.  Just like I wouldn't expect them to draft a slot WR here, I wouldn't expect them to draft a WR that isn't bringing a real vertical and explosive downfield threat to the WR room.  Especially after drafting Coleman last year and signing Palmer this offseason.   

 

Like I said, its not that I don't like Harris...its more I don't see the fit for the Bills to where he feels like a realistic option for the Bills.  

[Alphadawg7]

35 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

I know some may think it's a little early... But CB Jacob Parrish should definitely be in the mix here IMHO... 

 

Honestly...when you are at the back end of the 2nd and don't have a 3rd, not sure "too early" is as applicable as it is earlier in the draft.  We don't pick again for over a round and a half, if there is any player slated as a possible pick in that window who you really want, I don't know you can say its "too early", especially given that we are in a range of the draft where grades get a LOT more subjective, especially factoring in scheme and team fits.  And with lacking a 3rd creating a large gap of when we pick next (barring trade ups), things like positional depth and fall off from this point on play a significant role in draft selection here.  

 

Now...before someone counters back about "reaching", I get reaching is never good and I am not suggesting to reach by any means.  I just think "too early" term gets used a little too heavily in these situations.  

[Virgil]

Updated to the top 7.  Please re-vote if your player was eliminated

[gonzo1105]

The fact that taking 3 DL in the first 3 picks is a possibility in this is completely ridiculous 

[Alphadawg7]

18 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

The fact that taking 3 DL in the first 3 picks is a possibility in this is completely ridiculous 

 

I agree...although that being said, we could use 3 DL...but can't see how we use our first 3 picks on DL.  

 

Personally I think there is very little chance that one of our first 2 picks wont be a corner and can't really see a scenario where we don't take one within those first 3 picks.  

[KOKBILLS]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is too early IMO. I also think he is a nickel at the next level. I like him. Like him a lot. Don't like the idea of him in round 2 and make him your starting outside corner. 

 

He's small-ish for sure... I do agree he's probably best suited inside, but I think he would hold up fine outside. He played mostly outside man-press in College. He's just a really good player with excellent speed and competitive nature. I think players like Parrish just find a way. In this specific scenario, coming out of those 1st 2 picks without a CB, I would be thrilled to get Parrish. But I would much rather get one of the top CB's. It's just a weird spot here. 

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

He's small-ish for sure... I do agree he's probably best suited inside, but I think he would hold up fine outside. He played mostly outside man-press in College. He's just a really good player with excellent speed and competitive nature. I think players like Parrish just find a way. In this specific scenario, coming out of those 1st 2 picks without a CB, I would be thrilled to get Parrish. But I would much rather get one of the top CB's. It's just a weird spot here. 

 

I genuinely think any corner left on the board here is a bit of a reach. There are 9 guys that legit belong in the first two rounds then I have a gap until like mid 3rd in my corner rankings. If the Bills are in this spot and desperate to pick a corner they should trade back first and do it to at least maximise their value. 

[Virgil]

Edited to the top 4.  Please re-vote if your player was eliminated

[NewEra]

As the GM of the KC Thiefs, I propose a trade to the Bills.

 

Thiefs receive pick 62-

 

Bills recieve all of the Thiefs 2026, 2027 and 2028 draft picks.  And Steve Spagnuolo.

[Virgil]

Less than two hours less.  I want to remove a receiver, but they are tied. 

[quincy]

41 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Less than two hours less.  I want to remove a receiver, but they are tied. 

 

If you still want to do so, Royals has edged ahead by one vote!

[Alphadawg7]

What is the trade back by the way?  How far back are we trading back and what are we getting back?