Sleeper Time!

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

Que Robinson -Alabama Edge/LB- 6’4” 245 primarily sat behind future NFL players. Originally a S, long wingspan and likely situational pass rusher to start. Needs to improve his run defense. But 4.6 40 and explosive pass rusher who played every special team unit. Saban called him the best ST player he ever coached. If Bills don’t have an edge that makes sense early might be worth one of the 4ths. 
 

Zah Frazier- UTSA-CB 6’3” 200 4.36 40. Excellent size and speed combo from the same program as Seattle Seahawks CB Woolen.  Only 10 starts after transferring, 15 pass break ups and 6 ints. Ton of potential upside but will be 25 in his rookie year. In the 4th/5th if still around a great 2nd cb for the Bills to take. The last time they did that it worked out very well. 

 

On Frazier specifically, man the transitions concern me. I get major Kaiir Elam vibes. The ball production you like and he is athletic.... but I just see those long limbs all over the place in transition and I think that will hurt him at the next level. 

[MikePJ76]

Dane brugler put smith to the bills at 177 in his 7 round mock draft.

 

Dane Brugler's Mock draft.  He did a full 7 round mock.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6279834/2025/04/16/nfl-mock-draft-2025-full-seven-rounds-dane-brugler/

 

Buffalo Bills

1 (30). S Malaki Starks, Georgia
2 (56). DT Joshua Farmer, Florida State
2 (62). CB Shavon Revel Jr., East Carolina
4 (109). Edge Bradyn Swinson, LSU
4 (132). WR Jaylin Lane, Virginia Tech
5 (169). C Seth McLaughlin, Ohio State
5 (170). LB Kobe King, Penn State
5 (173). OT Myles Hinton, Michigan
6 (177). RB Brashard Smith, SMU
6 (206). TE Gavin Bartholomew, Pittsburgh

[biggerdaddynj]

5 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Dane brugler put smith to the bills at 177 in his 7 round mock draft.

 

Dane Brugler's Mock draft.  He did a full 7 round mock.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6279834/2025/04/16/nfl-mock-draft-2025-full-seven-rounds-dane-brugler/

 

Buffalo Bills

1 (30). S Malaki Starks, Georgia
2 (56). DT Joshua Farmer, Florida State
2 (62). CB Shavon Revel Jr., East Carolina
4 (109). Edge Bradyn Swinson, LSU
4 (132). WR Jaylin Lane, Virginia Tech
5 (169). C Seth McLaughlin, Ohio State
5 (170). LB Kobe King, Penn State
5 (173). OT Myles Hinton, Michigan
6 (177). RB Brashard Smith, SMU
6 (206). TE Gavin Bartholomew, Pittsburgh

Really hope we use our draft capital to double dip at DT with this class.  We don’t have room/need for 10 rookies maximize the picks. That said, I do like some of those picks (though I don’t think the rankings are realistic—Starks at 30, Revel at 62).

[MrEpsYtown]

Chris Trapasso was talking about Oklahoma States Korie Black today. He was not invited to the combine. Ran 4.35 at the pro day and had a 39 inch vert. 6-0, 192, nearly 32 inch arms. Interesting. He’s a fifth year senior who started like 60 college games or something. . 
 

 

 

[njbuff]

I don’t know if he classifies as a sleeper anymore, but the WR that’s the perfect fit for this team is Jalen Royals.

[QLBillsFan]

10 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Dane brugler put smith to the bills at 177 in his 7 round mock draft.

 

Dane Brugler's Mock draft.  He did a full 7 round mock.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6279834/2025/04/16/nfl-mock-draft-2025-full-seven-rounds-dane-brugler/

 

Buffalo Bills

1 (30). S Malaki Starks, Georgia
2 (56). DT Joshua Farmer, Florida State
2 (62). CB Shavon Revel Jr., East Carolina
4 (109). Edge Bradyn Swinson, LSU
4 (132). WR Jaylin Lane, Virginia Tech
5 (169). C Seth McLaughlin, Ohio State
5 (170). LB Kobe King, Penn State
5 (173). OT Myles Hinton, Michigan
6 (177). RB Brashard Smith, SMU
6 (206). TE Gavin Bartholomew, Pittsburgh

Good draft! Does anyone think Revel Jr lasts until 62? Do the Bills double on DT as a better option. Otherwise I would happy with this. 

[Sojourner]

7 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Good draft! Does anyone think Revel Jr lasts until 62? Do the Bills double on DT as a better option. Otherwise I would happy with this. 

He shouldn’t given where the league is. Absolutely a high character guy, I read THIS article a week or so ago and can’t help but hope he lands on the team if we go corner early and it isn’t Barron/Hairston/Johnson. He’s in the Amos/Morrison/Thomas group of corners so there is a chance. 

[Richard Noggin]

Jack Nelson as an Alec Anderson 6th OL replacement (when Anderson moves to LG in 2026). Any thoughts? I see a versatile pro (that Kromer will love) who can provide depth at 4/5 positions at first, and maybe develop into a starter? 

[Richard Noggin]

10 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Dane brugler put smith to the bills at 177 in his 7 round mock draft.

 

Dane Brugler's Mock draft.  He did a full 7 round mock.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6279834/2025/04/16/nfl-mock-draft-2025-full-seven-rounds-dane-brugler/

 

Buffalo Bills

1 (30). S Malaki Starks, Georgia
2 (56). DT Joshua Farmer, Florida State
2 (62). CB Shavon Revel Jr., East Carolina
4 (109). Edge Bradyn Swinson, LSU
4 (132). WR Jaylin Lane, Virginia Tech
5 (169). C Seth McLaughlin, Ohio State
5 (170). LB Kobe King, Penn State
5 (173). OT Myles Hinton, Michigan
6 (177). RB Brashard Smith, SMU
6 (206). TE Gavin Bartholomew, Pittsburgh

 

I have a bunch of issues with this mock, starting with Revel sliding to 62?! Obviously you'd tear a hammy to get that card submitted at 62, but probably also before that at 56. If Starks falls to 30 I don't HATE that idea for McDermott, but who else has questions about Farmer at 56? And ONLY getting Farmer (more of a 3-tech) at DT seems like a missed opportunity this draft.

[Ralonzo]

8 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

I have a bunch of issues with this mock, starting with Revel sliding to 62?! Obviously you'd tear a hammy to get that card submitted at 62, but probably also before that at 56. If Starks falls to 30 I don't HATE that idea for McDermott, but who else has questions about Farmer at 56? And ONLY getting Farmer (more of a 3-tech) at DT seems like a missed opportunity this draft.

Alfred Collins was on the board at the Farmer pick. Most of us would have taken Collins/Revel in some order. Swinson at 109 was obvious as well. Most of the later picks had better options for my liking.

[biggerdaddynj]

59 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said:

Good draft! Does anyone think Revel Jr lasts until 62? Do the Bills double on DT as a better option. Otherwise I would happy with this. 

Not to double dip at DT in this draft class is indefensible.  We have enough picks to move around and get our other areas of need. 

[Richard Noggin]

8 minutes ago, biggerdaddynj said:

Not to double dip at DT in this draft class is indefensible.  We have enough picks to move around and get our other areas of need. 

 

Can't call it "indefensible" without knowing how the draft plays out. I, too, am stacking mock draft simulations featuring 2 DTs (AND often 2 CBs). Good year for it. 

 

But, the board could of course fall in a way that makes pre-determined double-dipping at ANY position unwise or forced. Beane still needs to beef up other position pipelines as those opportunities present themselves. Possible that S and/or CB and/or DE and/or WR value is just screaming at Beane early and often. Maximizing the draft should be each year's goal; the more insulated that process is from the current offseason's depth chart, the better. 

[biggerdaddynj]

1 hour ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Can't call it "indefensible" without knowing how the draft plays out. I, too, am stacking mock draft simulations featuring 2 DTs (AND often 2 CBs). Good year for it. 

 

But, the board could of course fall in a way that makes pre-determined double-dipping at ANY position unwise or forced. Beane still needs to beef up other position pipelines as those opportunities present themselves. Possible that S and/or CB and/or DE and/or WR value is just screaming at Beane early and often. Maximizing the draft should be each year's goal; the more insulated that process is from the current offseason's depth chart, the better. 

Agree and totally understand the uncertainty.  We’re all just pulling this out of our ###es but I expect a DT (

with either 30, 56 or 62 and with Beane saying he’s going to move around and us not needing 10 bodies.

 

I think it would be a missed opportunity with such a deep DT class not to take a second DT (run stuffer like a CJ West or Caldwell) either moving up into the 3rd or in the 4th or 5th and that won’t preclude us from getting the other positions you’ve identified and that I agree we should take a swing at (and that’s without considering a RB!).  Let’s keep our 🫰Beane comes through!

[Desert Bills Fan]

I am eyeing 2 sleepers who could initially contribute as bit players on the O and major in ST’s
 

Bottom of Rd 6 - Luke Lachey TE Iowa , a TE 3 on the Bills who could develop into our TE2 after Knox leaves. Potential ST maven.

Height: 6 - 5 |Weight: 251 lbs |RAS: 7.42

Luke Lachey is a big-bodied and athletic tight end with a well-rounded skill set that makes him a valuable offensive weapon. His length and smooth acceleration off the line should serve him well as a seam stretcher. Lachey is also a fluid and technical route runner when he’s working against air. He needs to develop his core strength to become more effective as a blocker, especially as that will likely be his path to playing time early in his career. Lachey is a perfect Day 3 draft swing on an athletic tight end who could contribute as a TE2 and on special teams early in his career.

 

Bottom of Rd 5 - Brashard Smith RB SMU , would be a great add to the RB room and a dynamic ST returner (depth).

Height: 5 - 9 |Weight: 194 lbs |RAS: 7.21

Brashard Smith is a receiver turned running back who put together a productive year to help SMU reach the CFP. Explosive athlete who can change direction with ease at high speeds. Dynamic runner between the tackles who can find open lanes, press gaps, and get the second and third levels of a defense. Has the speed and explosion to beat linebackers and defensive backs to the spot and turn the corner. A dangerous special-teams presence who has been returning kicks all four years of college. Averaged a robust 29 yards per return in 2023 with 579 total kick-return yards, both led the ACC. Doesn’t have a thick lower half and is just okay running off contact and breaking tackles. Below-average ball security. Has fumbled on nearly 2% of his career rushing attempts. Has only one year of starting experience as a running back in college. Will face questions on whether he can handle an RB1 workload. Solid pass-catching running back who can create big plays when in space. Has natural hands and a very good feel for route running.

 

 

[gonzo1105]

12 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

Alfred Collins was on the board at the Farmer pick. Most of us would have taken Collins/Revel in some order. Swinson at 109 was obvious as well. Most of the later picks had better options for my liking.

Alfred Collins will go somewhere around the Bills pick. He’s really just a 2 down run stuffer and whether you like him or not those guys drop like rocks on draft day. I’m not a fan of Farmer at all as an FSU fan but he does fit their criteria of what they look for on the DL 

[RyanC883]

On 4/13/2025 at 11:46 AM, OldTimer1960 said:

Thank you for your insights!  What do you think of the OT from William and Mary (Charles Grant)?  I know he has gotten some 3rd round grades - is he legit?  Is he strong enough?

Dude is legit.  Gets better each year.  Size, coach ability.  I’ve seen him somewhere mocked at 32 to Eagles.  Likely round 2.  

[corta765]

I've usually found a nice nap in the mid afternoon 2-4ish range helps really make the weekend

[nosejob]

On 4/14/2025 at 3:53 PM, The Firebaugh Kid said:

I saw it on Built in Buffalo, a Bills Facebook group. FWIW 

That whole 6'5 4.3 thing is very attractive, but yeah, why wasn't the production there? Marino is in on him, I trust Joe's film study. Shorter was slow as hell, I hated that pick. This kid has elite speed and size. I would roll the dice if he interviews and tests well. 

I like receivers whose hands dart out and pluck the ball out of the air. Not a body catcher only. I thinks he's George Pickens with elite speed. I'm praying we get his counterpart in Porter. Both would be great.

[Maine-iac]

Not necessarily sure he's on the Bills radar but probably a late day 3 or even UDFA guy who could help a team would be Lan Larison.  His 40 time aside he ran for almost 1,500 yards, had 850 yards recieving, and scored 23 TD's.  Threw some passes, made a few tackles, what else could you ask for?

Edited Thursday at 08:02 PM by Maine-iac

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

Alfred Collins will go somewhere around the Bills pick. He’s really just a 2 down run stuffer and whether you like him or not those guys drop like rocks on draft day. I’m not a fan of Farmer at all as an FSU fan but he does fit their criteria of what they look for on the DL 

 

Yea Collins window opens around the Bills first 2nd rounder and lasts to mid 3rd IMO.