Bills CB draft choice

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Hairston.  I keep mocking the draft on ESPN's mock draft simulator and if nearly every time if I don't grab Hairston at 30, there is no left by 56.  As much as I like a DT at 30, CB has to be the pick.  

 

As to Hairston, I want him speed on the outside.

Thats an interesting POV GA.
 Trade to 40 and see what comes up.
 I would have hoped there would be some better results from your mock

[3rdand12]

51 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

You’re banking on Zy Alexander in the mid-4th for a starting CB on a team that has Super Bowl aspirations?  I’m not aligned (I’m not saying that I am absolutely right).  
 

if they want to take a chance on Revel or Morrison at 30 and come back and take another CB in the mid-4th to have someone to compete if Revel/Morrison aren’t ready, then I think Alexander is a good option.

 

The argument that a dominant DL trumps CB has a bit of truth,but if Philly is your model for that argument- they had Mitchell and DeJean at CB in addition to their DL.  Further, no guarantee that either Harmon or Grant or Nolan aren’t there at 30.  If Harmon or Grant are there, I’d think hard about them, but neither is bringing Aaron Donald level pass rush.  

There are few of us here who want 1tech trench diggers who can hold a center and guard up in the pass rush. Not another Oliver type.

Big and nasty.

Pass rush upside would be the cherry.

Also DE pass rusher at the top of the list . AJ is not going to raise the bar on his own. Bosa is likely low rep count till playoffs , if he makes it that far.

CB is a need.

That WR is next as need

 If Harmon or Grant are there  ? I run to the podium with great happiness. 

 

 Go Bills

[OldTimer1960]

27 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

There are few of us here who want 1tech trench diggers who can hold a center and guard up in the pass rush. Not another Oliver type.

Big and nasty.

Pass rush upside would be the cherry.

Also DE pass rusher at the top of the list . AJ is not going to raise the bar on his own. Bosa is likely low rep count till playoffs , if he makes it that far.

CB is a need.

That WR is next as need

 If Harmon or Grant are there  ? I run to the podium with great happiness. 

 

 Go Bills

I’m with you on the need for the space eaters- no dispute from me.  I agree on the desire for another pass rusher.  I can’t argue that they couldn’t use a fast receiver who can at least be a stretch the field guy and certainly I’m aligned that a CB (or two) are needed.  I think the order of urgency is: CB, DT, DE, WR.  
 

That doesn’t mean that I’m happy with the current WRs, it’s more that the Bills’ offense was darned good with Samuel injured and Coleman a rookie.  I have some confidence that if Samuel is healthy he will contribute a lot more than last year.  I am hopeful that Coleman shows good improvement in year 2.  I’m aligned that on paper the Bills’ WR group is probably bottom 1/3 of the league.  
 

I have a lot less confidence at CB where they are set with Benford and Johnson, but CB2 is a gaping hole in my view - I also think they could use better backup talent at CB.  DT is a pretty urgent need behind Daquan Jones who is probably in his last season at (I think) 34 y.o.  
 

Of course, they can never have enough DEs and Bosa and Epenesa are each on last year of their contracts.

 

i see the need for all of those positions and I don’t see how they can address all equally with the picks they have.

 

I think Harmon, Grant or maybe Nolan (some rumors about his effort/dedication) would all be really justifiable picks at 30.  I could also understand if they went DE if they like Scourton or someone else there.  Would be interesting to see what they’d do if, say Mykel Williams or Shemar Stewart were available.  
 

My concern is that I think (hope?) they could find a decent space eater in round 2, but I think it’s a big gamble to wait till 56 for a CB in this class.  I may be all wet, but that’s my view.

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, noacls said:

I could see them trading out of 1st if DL they like is not there.  Then taking Amos or Morrison. 

I'm hoping the Browns and Giants don't draft a QB with their 1st round picks.  Patriots don't get Hunter or Carter.  Teams are more likely to trade their 2nd round pick to us and take a QB at 30.

[27yankees]

I like the idea of doubling up on DT's with 1st 2 picks then selecting CB with the #2 2nd. Stuff the run, let the edgers pressure the QB, get strong LB/S play to shutdown TE's. Can't give 30 a game in playoffs and expect to win. Defense wins championships.

[DefenseWins]

My thought is that Grant, Harmon and Nolen are all gonna be off the board by pick #30. Then it becomes a question of which CB they have a pref for. If they don't have much pref for any one guy maybe they drop back a few picks to pick up a 3rd or 4th that they could then package into a top 3rd rd pick?

[nosejob]

20 hours ago, finn said:

That's right. My heart sinks whenever I see his name, especially since Beane probably could have had Elam AND Woolen if he had stayed put in the first round and used the fourth-rounder he gave up for Elam on Woolen (would have had to move up a bit). I didn't see any problems with Elam, but I really wanted Woolen. Tall, fast, great hands and instincts, terrific athlete...? Pass. 🥺

I actually wanted 2 out of that draft. Cam Taylor Britt being the other.

[nosejob]

18 hours ago, Special K said:

 

I really hope the Bills take a DL(Grant, Nolen) at 30, then take a CB with one of the two 2nd rounders.

 

My preference would be Porter or Hairston, and I think the Bills will try to trade up in the 2nd round to secure the CB they want, IMO.

Where I draw the line is...the 1st pick has to be a day 1 player. Period. Also, I'd like to know what the percentage is of guys who have already been injured,not getting hurt again over the following 3-4 years.

[KingBoots8]

Ideally I think we go DT at 30, CB/WR at 56 and 62. Obviously it depends who is there but I’m thinking it shakes down like that. If not WR I could see Edge or Safety, but if someone like Higgins is there at 56 you run to the podium and grab Porter at 62

[finn]

4 minutes ago, nosejob said:

I actually wanted 2 out of that draft. Cam Taylor Britt being the other.

I realize it's a bit absurd for me to second-guess Beane, given the enormous amounts of time and resources he pours into researching these players over months and even years. And here I'm scolding him for his choices, drawing on the vast knowledge I gleaned from reading Lindy's Draft Guide and watching highlights on YouTube. 

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17 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

You’re banking on Zy Alexander in the mid-4th for a starting CB on a team that has Super Bowl aspirations?  I’m not aligned (I’m not saying that I am absolutely right).  
 

if they want to take a chance on Revel or Morrison at 30 and come back and take another CB in the mid-4th to have someone to compete if Revel/Morrison aren’t ready, then I think Alexander is a good option.

 

The argument that a dominant DL trumps CB has a bit of truth,but if Philly is your model for that argument- they had Mitchell and DeJean at CB in addition to their DL.  Further, no guarantee that either Harmon or Grant or Nolan aren’t there at 30.  If Harmon or Grant are there, I’d think hard about them, but neither is bringing Aaron Donald level pass rush.  

There is nobody equal to Mitchell or DeJean in this class. Philly got lucky, right place, right time for those picks.

[RyanC883]

Trade up for Amos.  Their idea combo is likely Grant/Amos.  If not, likely Amos in first. 

[nosejob]

13 hours ago, DefenseWins said:

My thought is that Grant, Harmon and Nolen are all gonna be off the board by pick #30. Then it becomes a question of which CB they have a pref for. If they don't have much pref for any one guy maybe they drop back a few picks to pick up a 3rd or 4th that they could then package into a top 3rd rd pick?

If this were to happen, I would wonder if I could trade back to 36 with the Jags for pick 70, maybe throw in a 5th?   36 could maybe still get Scournton? then

Collins 56   Porter  62   Watts 70  Thornton 109  Zy Alexander  132.

[3rdand12]

On 4/13/2025 at 5:14 PM, OldTimer1960 said:

I’m with you on the need for the space eaters- no dispute from me.  I agree on the desire for another pass rusher.  I can’t argue that they couldn’t use a fast receiver who can at least be a stretch the field guy and certainly I’m aligned that a CB (or two) are needed.  I think the order of urgency is: CB, DT, DE, WR.  
 

That doesn’t mean that I’m happy with the current WRs, it’s more that the Bills’ offense was darned good with Samuel injured and Coleman a rookie.  I have some confidence that if Samuel is healthy he will contribute a lot more than last year.  I am hopeful that Coleman shows good improvement in year 2.  I’m aligned that on paper the Bills’ WR group is probably bottom 1/3 of the league.  
 

I have a lot less confidence at CB where they are set with Benford and Johnson, but CB2 is a gaping hole in my view - I also think they could use better backup talent at CB.  DT is a pretty urgent need behind Daquan Jones who is probably in his last season at (I think) 34 y.o.  
 

Of course, they can never have enough DEs and Bosa and Epenesa are each on last year of their contracts.

 

i see the need for all of those positions and I don’t see how they can address all equally with the picks they have.

 

I think Harmon, Grant or maybe Nolan (some rumors about his effort/dedication) would all be really justifiable picks at 30.  I could also understand if they went DE if they like Scourton or someone else there.  Would be interesting to see what they’d do if, say Mykel Williams or Shemar Stewart were available.  
 

My concern is that I think (hope?) they could find a decent space eater in round 2, but I think it’s a big gamble to wait till 56 for a CB in this class.  I may be all wet, but that’s my view.

I appreciate your viewpoint. And won't argue against it. No idea about which DE fits McDs scheme or where to pick him. And regardless of where you pick DT he needs to be a day one player even if only a two down player at first. A DE who can rotate in to start the season ( prove it pick)

Wr is exactly as you described. Has to be the missing link  Bills need for sure. There are a few I might trade around for just to secure the Guy who fits.

 Cornerback I am going to leave to you experts. heck , I was a big fan of Dane Jackson his 1st game ! Still am ha ha

 What do I know.

I think they might go Fa to hold them over a year.

Thanks OldTimer1960

 

 

 

22 hours ago, DefenseWins said:

My thought is that Grant, Harmon and Nolen are all gonna be off the board by pick #30. Then it becomes a question of which CB they have a pref for. If they don't have much pref for any one guy maybe they drop back a few picks to pick up a 3rd or 4th that they could then package into a top 3rd rd pick?

Or they move just enough to get that DT 😋 

[3rdand12]

9 hours ago, nosejob said:

If this were to happen, I would wonder if I could trade back to 36 with the Jags for pick 70, maybe throw in a 5th?   36 could maybe still get Scournton? then

Collins 56   Porter  62   Watts 70  Thornton 109  Zy Alexander  132.

I recognize 3 of those names.

 So I vote yes 👍

[BigAl2526]

It won't be Will Johnson.  He'll be long gone by #30 and Beane is not going to give up the draft capital it would take to move up and get him.  I hope they don't pick Azareye'h Thomas.  The Bills need to find some speed in the back end of the defense and 4.59 doesn't do that.  Hairston may not be a great fit.  Porter is raw and a projection but as a gamble might pay off.  Revel and Morrison are both recovering from injury, so there is some modest risk.  Trey Amos might be the safest pick, but is a reach in round 1 and might not be on the board at #56.

[gonzo1105]

I think that Hairston is going well before the Bills pick, that is my opinion and we'll see if i'm right, but I'm currently doing a mock and have him going before Johnson now. Still don't think Johnson is in range though for my liking to make a move up.

[Evansfan322]

I like Nohl Williams out of Cal. Yes the ACC is down as far as conference but that kid is an interception machine. I’d like to trade into the 3rd to get him or if there is a 2nd round run on CB grab him at 62

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[DJB]

My guess? Amos round 1

 

 

What I want? 
 

Morrison early round 2